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Justin W
29 July 2013 05:19:47

Fascinating the NWP trying to nail down the plume at the end of the working week. Today it looks like it will barely even make it into the far SE with temperatures probably maxing out at 30-32C. Let's hope it keeps being downgraded.



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gooner
29 July 2013 06:45:16

HP keeps much of the warm /v warm throughout, much improved FI


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
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vince
29 July 2013 06:53:21


Fascinating the NWP trying to nail down the plume at the end of the working week. Today it looks like it will barely even make it into the far SE with temperatures probably maxing out at 30-32C. Let's hope it keeps being downgraded.



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Behave yourself  have you turned into Retron or something .I thought you liked heat and sunshine

GIBBY
29 July 2013 07:36:04

Hi folks. Here is today's report on the midnight outputs of GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Monday July 29th 2013.


The General Situation. All models show Low pressure to the NW of the UK with a showery SW flow over the UK. This situation is maintained for the next 24 hours before a waving frontal feature moves up into Southern Britain tomorrow with occasional rain. This then is shown to extend North across Britain through midweek followed by an increasingly warm and moist SW then Southerly flow through the remainder of the week. A weak cold front will lie close to western Britain by the weekend with a plume of thundery weather likely to affect the SE late in the week and for a time at the weekend with thundery rain or storms.


GFS then shows slightly fresher weather for a day or two as the weak cold front crosses East displacing the very warm conditions for a time. Through the following week High pressure builds East from the Atlantic with increasingly settled and warm conditions developing with long sunny spells and dry conditions for all. Later still the fine and by then hot conditions will be tempered by a migration of cooler and more unsettled weather gradually working its way in from off the Atlantic.


The GFS Ensembles still show the sharp rise in uppers later this week. Thereafter the operational I have described above is a wild warm outlier with nearly all of the other members preferring something much cooler and nearer to average for early August with occasional rainfall.


The Jet Stream continues to be pumped NE across the UK and towards Scandinavia over the coming days and becomes weaker later as it tilts on a more West to East flow across the vicinity of the UK next week.


UKMO today shows a SW flow over the UK at the start of the weekend with some showers in the North and West. Although the very warmest of the weather will of left the SE it will still be reasonably warm and likely to become dry as High pressure builds to the South of the UK.


GEM today shows a slightly fresher weekend as the very warm air is temporarily displaced from the SE early in the weekend. As we move into next week the trend for warm and humid weather increases as a ridge builds towards the NW from an Atlantic High and Low pressure develops over NW Europe with some thundery rain or showers breaking out in the south and east in particular for a time.


NAVGEM also shows a SW flow at the weekend with Low pressure up to the NW. Scattered showers would be likely for most Northern and western parts while the South and East could escape with quite a lot of dry, bright and reasonably warm conditions.


ECM this morning shows a build of pressure at the weekend and having displaced the hot air at the end of the week from the SE our own home grown heat develops as a small High develops over England. This becomes quickly removed as more humid and thundery conditions develop in response to a strong build of pressure to the NW with a thundery Low just to the South of the UK at the end of the run with showers and thunderstorms in the South and east and hot conditions for the SE.


In Summary today there is a growing trend to build High pressure from the Atlantic early next week probably towards the NW which could promote another period of warm or very warm conditions for parts of the UK should it evolve. Current projections show it not too last too long before thundery weather breaks out though warmth could still be maintained with high humidity levels. Discounting the GFS operational this morning in it's isolated form may not be as far from the pattern balance as it might first seem as it does include some support from the other models. The one clear message from this morning's runs are that the weather is going to maintain itself on the warm side of average with the continuing chance of thundery weather particularly towards the SE and some fairly decent and useable weather at times for nearly all of the UK.


Martin G
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Gavin P
29 July 2013 08:22:59

Strange looking charts this morning. Not sure any of the models still have the weather nailed for Friday and the weekend yet, nevermind beyond that...


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Justin W
29 July 2013 08:30:32



Fascinating the NWP trying to nail down the plume at the end of the working week. Today it looks like it will barely even make it into the far SE with temperatures probably maxing out at 30-32C. Let's hope it keeps being downgraded.



Originally Posted by: vince 


 


Behave yourself  have you turned into Retron or something .I thought you liked heat and sunshine


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


My ideal operating temperature is somewere around 21C. I find anything over 25C in the UK unpleasant. Anything over 30C and I find it unnatural.



Back on topic and Gavin is right - very little confidence beyond the end of the week. But it is a relief to see the >20C 850hPa line being swept away from our shores and into the Low Countries and Germany.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Jiries
29 July 2013 09:05:30


Fascinating the NWP trying to nail down the plume at the end of the working week. Today it looks like it will barely even make it into the far SE with temperatures probably maxing out at 30-32C. Let's hope it keeps being downgraded.



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It look like a upgrade to me as now they put 27C on Monday which in reality 30C is likely like last Friday they put 27C on the charts and many got 29-30C and mine was 31C.  Heatwave still nailed on and ususal places like Heathrow or Northolt would get 33-34C and backyard temps around 34-35C which I expected here.


What happened to Gravesend that used to record such high temps or the 15C sea temps over Kent coast prevented Kent getting very hot this year?  Kent was never on the hot spot yet this year.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reursst.gif


17C over NW Scandi so why the channel sea temps still haven't rise yet despite warm weather lately?  We talked about that on other thread but something not right on those frozen same sea temps for 1 month now.

Charmhills
29 July 2013 09:09:27


Strange looking charts this morning. Not sure any of the models still have the weather nailed for Friday and the weekend yet, nevermind beyond that...


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Yes indeed.


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Polar Low
29 July 2013 09:21:48

Intresting fax charts looks quite a bit warmer and humid on Thursday as the warm front and 564 move north.


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?ech=72&carte=2000


Maybe a more general spell of rain for the south tomoz.

Scandy 1050 MB
29 July 2013 09:27:28




Fascinating the NWP trying to nail down the plume at the end of the working week. Today it looks like it will barely even make it into the far SE with temperatures probably maxing out at 30-32C. Let's hope it keeps being downgraded.



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Behave yourself  have you turned into Retron or something .I thought you liked heat and sunshine


Originally Posted by: vince 


My ideal operating temperature is somewere around 21C. I find anything over 25C in the UK unpleasant. Anything over 30C and I find it unnatural.



Back on topic and Gavin is right - very little confidence beyond the end of the week. But it is a relief to see the >20C 850hPa line being swept away from our shores and into the Low Countries and Germany.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


You're not the only one glad to see the 20c 850pha being swept away, let's hope August is more typical fare with the odd hot day with cooler ones inbetween and not another month of intense heat - interesting charts this morning with high uncertainty compared to yesterday past the end of the week.

Polar Low
29 July 2013 09:41:50

Awesome potential from ecm for south and s/e hot, thunderstorms, high temperatures and rinse and repeat.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


ecm mean looks very good also.


 

Justin W
29 July 2013 09:55:18

Looks like a further slight downgrade on the 06z


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=90&mode=1


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Polar Low
29 July 2013 10:17:31

looks hot 2 me 30 given quite easy hot looking south uk promising outlook for heat seekers 2 hot for me but wont complain.


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/84/ukmaxtemp.png

Justin W
29 July 2013 10:30:07

Greens pushing into the far SE!! 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=1


 



Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Polar Low
29 July 2013 10:32:13

out to next monday 27 and 28c most of Mid England very warm outlook for south little doubt


 


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/180/ukmaxtemp.png

Matty H
  • Matty H
  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
29 July 2013 10:33:12

out to next monday 27 and 28c most of Mid England very warm outlook for south little doubt


 


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/180/ukmaxtemp.png

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 



Looking superb. 😁 certainly making up for last year's washout [sn_appr]
Polar Low
29 July 2013 10:35:55

Indeed Matty have some outside painting to do so will make the full use of it also nice for for all the kidz on school hoildays.


 



out to next monday 27 and 28c most of Mid England very warm outlook for south little doubt


 


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/180/ukmaxtemp.png


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Looking superb. BigGrin certainly making up for last year's washout Approve

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

Jiries
29 July 2013 10:45:29

Further upgrade on early next week with wide spread 27C on Monday for the south and not just the SE.  Likely around 27-30C days once again next week after this coming week very hot spell giving out low to mid 30's in usual places.

Ally Pally Snowman
29 July 2013 10:59:47


Further upgrade on early next week with wide spread 27C on Monday for the south and not just the SE.  Likely around 27-30C days once again next week after this coming week very hot spell giving out low to mid 30's in usual places.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Indeed the forecast unsettled weather never really gets going especially with the ECM and we end up with another plume.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html  32c +


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RavenCraven
29 July 2013 11:27:45


Greens pushing into the far SE!! 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=1


 



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Must be the only chart showing that. Looks like remaing warm to very warm from everything else I can see.

Justin W
29 July 2013 11:30:18



Greens pushing into the far SE!! 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=1


 



Originally Posted by: RavenCraven 


 


Must be the only chart showing that. Looks like remaing warm to very warm from everything else I can see.


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


True - am cherry picking. I can live with warm/very warm. Glad that hot/very hot doesn't appear to be on the cards for the time being.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gavin P
29 July 2013 12:48:34


out to next monday 27 and 28c most of Mid England very warm outlook for south little doubt


 


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/180/ukmaxtemp.png


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Looking superb. BigGrin certainly making up for last year's washout Approve

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Don't you mean the last six years of washouts?


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Gooner
29 July 2013 12:53:35



Further upgrade on early next week with wide spread 27C on Monday for the south and not just the SE.  Likely around 27-30C days once again next week after this coming week very hot spell giving out low to mid 30's in usual places.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Indeed the forecast unsettled weather never really gets going especially with the ECM and we end up with another plume.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html  32c +


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Just in time for my hols


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Scandy 1050 MB
29 July 2013 12:55:08




Greens pushing into the far SE!! 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=1


 



Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Must be the only chart showing that. Looks like remaing warm to very warm from everything else I can see.


 


Originally Posted by: RavenCraven 


True - am cherry picking. I can live with warm/very warm. Glad that hot/very hot doesn't appear to be on the cards for the time being.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Glad to see that also, however as ECM shows that pesky 20c 850 line is always not very far away and if we have a stalling low going up the west of the country we could easily have another plume and drag it in. Still, if you like heat some good charts out there for next week if it's your thing but not across the board at the moment. Looks to me like ECM is on a hot successive run, whether it changes tonight remains to be seen.

Matty H
  • Matty H
  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
29 July 2013 12:55:49


out to next monday 27 and 28c most of Mid England very warm outlook for south little doubt


 


 


http://cdn.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20130729/06/180/ukmaxtemp.png


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



Looking superb. BigGrin certainly making up for last year's washout Approve

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Don't you mean the last six years of washouts?

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 




Good point 😁 although last year was extreme. The previous couple of summers were fairly dry on the whole.
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