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Matty H
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02 August 2013 07:15:25

I wouldn't rule out Australia winning this test, then carrying on the momentum to take the series 3-2.

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 



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KevBrads1
02 August 2013 07:34:27

I wouldn't rule out Australia winning this test, then carrying on the momentum to take the series 3-2.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 


The only time that this has been achived in the past was when Don Bradman was around in the 30's! That was also in Australia where the weather is much more reliable so after being 2 down there was every chance that the following 3 tests would be results. I think this place would go in to melt down if it happened, there would be a national holiday and a tiker tape parade down Geroge Street Sydney!


All Australia really need now is probably one more good morning session and they will avoid defeat in this test. The first hour is critical to England chances of winning, 3 or 4 quick wickets would throw it wide open again. I will watch the first hour tonight and if it looks like more of the same from Australia then I will switch off until Saturday night Aussie time when England will be closer to batting.


 

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 


The weather played a part in that series with the teams being caught on wet wickets at times. There was one Test when Bradman reversed the batting order, to counter the wet wicket and it paid off as the wicket dried out.
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SydneyonTees
02 August 2013 08:09:28


I wouldn't rule out Australia winning this test, then carrying on the momentum to take the series 3-2.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


 


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 There was one Test when Bradman reversed the batting order, to counter the wet wicket and it paid off as the wicket dried out.

Originally Posted by: Brummie Snowman 


 


I think reversing the current Australian batting order might have been considered by Clarke 

Saint Snow
02 August 2013 11:01:07

No early breakthrough


 


If, as seems likely, the convicts nab a draw here, it'll be like them winning the series to them.


 


If England conspire to lose this (and, given the sometime woefully fragile mental strength of teh England batting line up, it's not impossible), there'd likely be scenes of national celebration in Aus. And we will have failed in our mission to humiliate them.


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Matty H
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02 August 2013 11:29:11
A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here*



*Unless we bat like idiots.
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JHutch
02 August 2013 11:30:30

What a complete waste of a review that was! Can only assume he really didnt think he'd edged it because completely wasting a review like that isnt good for the team if they get a stinker of a decision later on.

Gooner
02 August 2013 11:39:28

Excellent knock by Clarke so far , he will be wanting the Aussies to get to 450 at least

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Gandalf The White
02 August 2013 11:46:02

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here*



*Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff.

Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.
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Gandalf The White
02 August 2013 11:47:18

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here*



*Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff.

Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.
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Matty H
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02 August 2013 11:52:41

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here*



*Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff.

Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Thing is its only decent if you're a batsman. It's offering zero lateral movement on the whole. It's a shite wicket. There's a bit of turn there for Swann.

This is why I assumed Tremlett would play. Obviously the selectors decided to take him out of his strict fitness regime at his county to carry drinks out 🙄
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SydneyonTees
02 August 2013 12:36:12

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here* *Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff. Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Thing is its only decent if you're a batsman. It's offering zero lateral movement on the whole. It's a shite wicket. There's a bit of turn there for Swann. This is why I assumed Tremlett would play. Obviously the selectors decided to take him out of his strict fitness regime at his county to carry drinks out 🙄

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


A pretty normally shite Lancastrian wicket, spent a fortune making a shite hole into an even bigger shite hole and the wicket in the middle is still shite. 


Whats the odds that as soon as England do get in the bat the balls starts spinning and swinging every which way 


***** I hate Old Trafford tests.

SydneyonTees
02 August 2013 13:27:15

The best way you can describe that shot by Siddle is agricultural 

bowser
02 August 2013 13:59:54

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here* *Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff. Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Thing is its only decent if you're a batsman. It's offering zero lateral movement on the whole. It's a shite wicket. There's a bit of turn there for Swann. This is why I assumed Tremlett would play. Obviously the selectors decided to take him out of his strict fitness regime at his county to carry drinks out 🙄

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


The Lancs heiracrhy will be wanting their pay day though.... 5 dayer it is.

SydneyonTees
02 August 2013 14:11:06

I think once Australia hit 500 a declaration won't be too far in coming, no advantage in Australia batting on much after that.


 


You can see that the orders from the Aussie management is to get a shift on.

Gandalf The White
02 August 2013 14:33:26

I think once Australia hit 500 a declaration won't be too far in coming, no advantage in Australia batting on much after that.

You can see that the orders from the Aussie management is to get a shift on.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



I'm not sure about that. Psychologically I would think they would take 550-600. That would still leave 10 sessions to bowl England out twice, with England having to bat for 2 days to secure a draw.
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Gandalf The White
02 August 2013 14:37:31

A couple of quick wickets. I still think a draw is likely here*



*Unless we bat like idiots.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Australia has done it twice so far and England's top order hasn't exactly clicked as a unit yet, so it's possible we might see more edge of seat stuff.

Of greater concern to me is the lack of effectiveness of the seam bowlers on a decent track.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Thing is its only decent if you're a batsman. It's offering zero lateral movement on the whole. It's a shite wicket. There's a bit of turn there for Swann.

This is why I assumed Tremlett would play. Obviously the selectors decided to take him out of his strict fitness regime at his county to carry drinks out 🙄

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



For a 5-day Test match you want to see a good batting track for the first 2-3 days, then some gradual deterioration with more turn and variable bounce. I wouldn't want to criticise this track until we've seen it perform over the full duration of the match.

This is one of those occasions when a four man bowling attack is proving to be a clear limitation.
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Saint Snow
02 August 2013 14:59:18

Swann takes 5-fer, whilst the quicks struggle to get any movement.


But Cook doesn't bowl Root????


 


Oh, and the last two days show why talk of Jimmy Anderson being the best bowler of his generation are bobbins.


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Ally Pally Snowman
02 August 2013 15:10:30

Aussies look good for 600 here. Half expect England to bottle it tonight and end up 80 for 4.


 

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Ally Pally Snowman
02 August 2013 15:17:50

Well Aussies declare 527for7.


How many wickets will England lose tonight and will Cook survive?


 

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Gandalf The White
02 August 2013 15:17:59

Swann takes 5-fer, whilst the quicks struggle to get any movement.
But Cook doesn't bowl Root????

Oh, andthe last two daysshow why talk of Jimmy Anderson being the best bowler of his generation are bobbins.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



One sub-standard performance in conditions not suited to swing bowling and you dismiss Anderson's quality?

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Matty H
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02 August 2013 15:23:10
Can you imagine Cook declaring there? He'd have still been batting at 800-7
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Saint Snow
02 August 2013 15:26:38

Swann takes 5-fer, whilst the quicks struggle to get any movement. But Cook doesn't bowl Root???? Oh, andthe last two daysshow why talk of Jimmy Anderson being the best bowler of his generation are bobbins.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

One sub-standard performance in conditions not suited to swing bowling and you dismiss Anderson's quality?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


No, not 'dismiss', just don't subscribe to the hype.


The best bowlers don't need conditions to favour them - they take wickets regardless. Anderson has looked toothless these past two days. Dale Steyn manages to be succesful no matter whether it's swinging or not.


I'm incredibly disappointed in how this Test has panned out. I want abject humiliation for the convicts.


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Jim_AFCB
02 August 2013 15:59:04

Now let's see how we bat under scoreboard pressure. We have not generally batted that well this series so far despite the 2-0 scoreline.- if we carry on giving wickets away as we have in the first two Tests then we will be going to Durham at 2-1.


 


As for today - we cannot afford to lose more than one wicket tonight.

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Gooner
02 August 2013 16:52:36

Can you imagine Cook declaring there? He'd have still been batting at 800-7

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


That is exactly what I have just said to my Mum, he would have gone through until tea tomorrow , fair play to Clarke , obviously looking for some wickets before stumps

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Gooner
02 August 2013 17:00:26

Root gone


47-1

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