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Polar Low
09 October 2013 17:29:34

Arctic high maintaining a very nice split in the polar vortex very good signal


thats all us coldies need to worry about for now


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=162&mode=0&carte=1


 

Matty H
09 October 2013 17:52:38

GFS 12z op suggesting a brief slightly cooler spell here before temps recover back to the mid to upper teens next week ThumpUp

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn26417.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28817.png


Briefly of course before cooler weather returns

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I never look out that far. Nearly as pointless as speculating what a season might do.

Warmer, albeit not exactly sunbathing weather to go with it πŸ˜›
Gooner
09 October 2013 17:56:56


GFS 12z op suggesting a brief slightly cooler spell here before temps recover back to the mid to upper teens next week ThumpUp

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn26417.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn28817.png


Briefly of course before cooler weather returns


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I never look out that far. Nearly as pointless as speculating what a season might do.

Warmer, albeit not exactly sunbathing weather to go with it Razz

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


As you know Matty all FI and JFF after 120 .............................just guess work


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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GIBBY
09 October 2013 19:09:36

Good evening. Here is the report on the 12 noon outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday October 9th 2013.


All models show the cold air establishing itself across the UK sandwiched between High pressure to the West and Low pressure to the East. Showers will push South down North Sea Coasts and some will be heavy with near gale winds. Through the following days all models show winds veering further towards the East and NE and remaining strong and cold for a time with rain at times affecting much of Southern Britain. Further North and the weather would stay dry and bright with sunny spells and light winds with the risk of frost and patchy mist night and mornings.


GFS shows winds steadily settling SW next week with less cold air moving across the UK. However, this comes at a price with Low pressure being steered slowly NE across Northern Britain with spells of rain and showers for all in brisk SW winds. Later in the run as the Low exits East the weather turns colder with a Northerly flow bringing temperatures well down but with High pressure moving across from the West a period of dry, cold and frosty weather with fog too seems likely before milder South-westerly winds return late in the run with a return to wet weather too.


UKMO tonight closes it's run with the UK under slack and benign conditions next Tuesday with a lot of cloudy but dry weather with the chance of the odd shower and temperatures recovering somewhat on previous days.


GEM shows a quiet start to next week too with a little rain at times in the South before it, like GFS shows a SW wind developing with fronts crossing NE across the UK with winds strengthening further with time with spells of rain in rather milder weather than the days before.


NAVGEM shows deep Low pressure to the West next week with milder SW winds extending to all of Britain with rain at times.


ECM tonight shows a period of quiet and benign conditions across the UK early next week with temperatures slowly recovering from the weekend chill. Through the week Low pressure in the Atlantic carries troughs in towards the UK with milder SW winds and rain at times gradually becoming established across all areas late next week. 


The GFS Ensembles are a warmer set tonight with 850 uppers exceeding the average for mid October next week. There is a fair amount of Autumn rainfall to get through from most members which when coupled with mostly cloudy skies may temper the feel of conditions at the surface despite the higher uppers.


The Jet Stream is shown to be strongly blowing way North over Northern Scandinavia for several days before a new arm crosses the Atlantic at around the UK's latitude next week with the flow if anything drifting South of the UK at times putting the UK close to Low pressure systems and their attendant fronts.


In Summary tonight it looks like after a short cold period temperatures will be recovering to higher levels again later next week as the general consensus between the models suggest a deep Atlantic Low pushing fronts and milder air NE across all areas later next week. All areas will become subject to spells of rain and cloudy skies with brisk but mild SW winds for much of the time.
 

Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm 


Martin G
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Jiries
09 October 2013 19:50:43

well above average rain for s/e from sat  and into next week from big 2


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


all car bottys cancelled around here u bite like a tiger Jiries.


 


 


 




increased threat of heavy rain moving into the s/e over the weekend


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/accumulation-precipitations/102h.htm


ukmo fax also looks a little more unsettled with a more active second pivot.


http://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm


might get some warnings for the s/e soon as the ground is quite dry at the moment run off etc.


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


It been downgraded with most of the heavy rain over the continent for few days with temps below 10C over there while here go back to low to mid teens and BBC not going for lower than 13C which tomorrow is the coolest day.  Only few hours of rain on Saturday then dry on Sunday.  I see they put still mild night temps continuing despite all the talk of cold days and nights here.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 



It looking good on Sunday as will be dry and brighter than Sat. I see that 12z look good to see milder temps next week and save the real cold in December!
Rob K
09 October 2013 20:32:04

That's quite an amplified pattern!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png


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Gooner
09 October 2013 22:35:47

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1861.png


bit of a change from GFS , HP now sat across the UK as opposed to the LP on the 12z


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10 October 2013 00:08:06

GFS 12z op suggesting a brief slightly cooler spell here before temps recover back to the mid to upper teens next week ThumpUp

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Good news for my grass! It will keep growing, on another note, it is cool but still in short sleeves.


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GIBBY
10 October 2013 07:38:53

Good morning. Here is this morning's account of the midnight outputs of the regular big 5 weather models for today Thursday October 10th 2013.


All models show all areas now under a much more seasonal spell of chilly north and eventually NE winds across the UK. A lot of dry weather will be shared for many areas especially those in the north and West close to high pressure. In the South and especially the East and SE of England some blustery showers are expected today with  a very strong wind with these conditions affecting other parts of the South of England and Wales over the weekend as the pressure pattern rotates to High to the North and Low pressure weakly near to or over the South by the end of the weekend. The start of next week is shown to become quite tranquil across the UK as the low over the South fills and the High to the North weakens for a time.


GFS then shows a South or SW flow developing towards the middle of next week, first in the West and then areas further East. Some occasional rain would accompany this change as well as returning normal temperatures. Then from the end of next week for the rest of the period low pressure steadily moves across the UK filling slowly but giving spells of windy and sometimes wet weather before a strong pressure build to the NE encourages Low pressure to slip SE over Southern areas with further spells of rain at times in temperatures near average but rather colder in the NE.


UKMO this morning closes it's run for next Wednesday with Southerly winds developing over the UK in response to a series of deep depressions ganging up to the West of the UK. Troughs from these would be expected to brush into at least Western Britain with occasional rain and temperatures near to or a little above average.


GEM also shows a Southerly flow developing next week though a little later in the week. The progress is unhindered though and by the weekend the weather will of turned wet and windy at times over all areas but reasonably mild. A powerful ex-tropical storm becomes caught up in the Low complex to the WSW at the end of the run and throws up the possibility of some very stormy conditions with very heavy rain just after the expiry day of the run.


NAVGEM shows the Atlantic becoming more dominant earlier next week with a spell of cloudy and rainy weather lasting several days in average temperatures as SW winds take hold. Towards the end of it's run some intensely cold air for October floods SW over Scandinavia and winds up a powerful storm system over the Baltic at Day 7 which leaves the UK in a more slack weather pattern with rather colder and dry conditions in the North with dry and less cold conditions for the South.


ECM edges Southerly and then SW winds into Britain as we progress through the middle and end to next week with rain at times becoming prominent after Wednesday, first in the west and to all areas by the weekend when winds could become strong at times and the rain heavy in places. Temperatures would recover to average or somewhat above though under this SW'ly regime.


The GFS Ensembles this morning show a short cold snap followed by some rather wet conditions developing over the weekend in the SE, areas further North soon after and the far North last of all. Rain at times is shown for all then for the rest of the run with mild temperatures easing back towards average at the end of the run in stronger winds than we have experienced for some time later in the output.


The Jet Stream still has it's main thrust well to the North of the UK near Scandinavia. A new arm then develops across the Atlantic on a much more Southerly latitude bringing depressions further South across the Atlantic to affect all of the UK later next week. Through week 2 there is little significant movement from it's end of next week position though at this range details are pointless.


In Summary after the current short but cold reminder that we are well into Autumn temperatures recover again next week as Southerly winds look like taking control albeit slowly. From midweek it looks like the tranquil conditions of the early week could be replaced by more traditional wet and windy type Atlantic based weather with lengthy dry spells at a premium. On the plus side despite some mouth watering cold pools floating about to the NE very early this season none look likely to affect the UK at this current time with temperatures always at or above the average with winds quite strong at times later next week but basically from a SW quadrant.


Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
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Stormchaser
10 October 2013 08:05:51

There would be a lot of crying into cornflakes this morning if it was winter! Too much energy dropping into the Atlantic, overpowering the blocking and driving energy NE.


It does bother me a bit though, as I wasn't anticipating another mild spell in the second half of October


Never mind... I suppose some useful rain looks probable provided the models aren't overcooking that Atlantic energy again.


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Matty H
10 October 2013 08:09:37
Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚

Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.
Gandalf The White
10 October 2013 08:20:35

Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚

Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



It could of course be a steady build up to a cold spring.... Starting on 1st March. Or perhaps 1st April? ;-)

Interesting how the models all seemed to flip yesterday when more energy in the Atlantic was picked up, and on a more normal path.


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Osprey
10 October 2013 08:21:30

Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


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Jiries
10 October 2013 08:49:36

Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I hope to see 20C once again st some point before it completely finished for this year.   Looking good nationwide on UKMO and ECM this weekend while GFS struggling where to send the LP away as it will go out by tomorrow for good. 

Sevendust
10 October 2013 09:13:01


Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


As Darren would point out, the coldest weather usually follows the solar minumum

Charmhills
10 October 2013 09:16:09



Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


As Darren would point out, the coldest weather usually follows the solar minumum


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


January and February are out coldest months or can be.


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Gooner
10 October 2013 09:23:24


Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Yes, because March this year was really warm wasn't it


As the days grow longer the cold grows stronger


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Osprey
10 October 2013 09:42:34



Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Yes, because March this year was really warm wasn't it


As the days grow longer the cold grows stronger


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


... and this summer was so cold and wet 


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Osprey
10 October 2013 09:46:00

Still looks mild going into November


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run1m/cfs-0-534.png?18


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nsrobins
10 October 2013 10:02:20


Still looks mild going into November


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run1m/cfs-0-534.png?18


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


A mildish Dec and a toasty January on today's CFS lottery.


JFF (as the saying goes)


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Gooner
10 October 2013 10:14:04




Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes, because March this year was really warm wasn't it


As the days grow longer the cold grows stronger


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


... and this summer was so cold and wet 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Osprey
10 October 2013 10:34:58





Perhaps the next three days ARE winter and we are then starting a steady build up to spring πŸ˜‚ Lovely day here today despite the slightly chilly start. A couple of days of this will go down nicely before the comparative warmth returns next week.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Only around 10 weeks (Which shouldn't take long the way October is whizzing through) before the nights start drawing out again... Roll on spring (Warm spring)


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


Yes, because March this year was really warm wasn't it


As the days grow longer the cold grows stronger


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


... and this summer was so cold and wet 


Originally Posted by: Osprey 



Originally Posted by: Matty H 



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Russwirral
10 October 2013 13:20:19


Still looks mild going into November


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run1m/cfs-0-534.png?18


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


That Vortext over siberia is appearing everywhere right now, looks like its going to be a big player in the weather for Oct/Nov.  Impact to us could be soutwesterlys to dominate mild/damp weather with the occasional frost when the nights get longer? 


Osprey
10 October 2013 14:41:57

Cold plunge as opposed to a plume around the 6th CFS


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run1m/cfs-0-648.png?00


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Gavin P
10 October 2013 15:09:32

Hi all


Here's today video update;


Turning Milder And Wet Later Next Week


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Quite uncertain though. Blocking certainly never far away.


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