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Coxy410
Monday, October 28, 2013 7:56:36 AM

It may not be that windy, but thanks to complete overkill by the press etc, there are virtually no trains running in the SE of England. We heard them announcing this at 5pm last night ! So trains or replacement bus services before 9am today.

IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



So you would feel comfortable travelling on a train at 100mph in the dark in this weather?
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picturesareme
Monday, October 28, 2013 7:57:07 AM
Which news agencies will start mentioning hill/ mountain top locations or 'needle point' for proof that their hyped up journalism was right.
micahel37
Monday, October 28, 2013 7:59:03 AM


IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



Really? Network Rail have already removed 40 trees from lines, and many more remain blocked. 4 trains have hit trees. The chances of restoring services by 9 am is looking remote given the damage.

40,000 homes have no power and the Isle of Wight have reported 99moh gusts.
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KevBrads1
Monday, October 28, 2013 7:59:12 AM

It may not be that windy, but thanks to complete overkill by the press etc, there are virtually no trains running in the SE of England. We heard them announcing this at 5pm last night ! So trains or replacement bus services before 9am today. IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Yes, whilst Darrens point is valid in that it is very windy in a few areas the wall to wall coverage by the news agencies and forward cancelling of trains does seem a rather large over-reaction

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



Didn't they close one of the Severn Bridges well before the storm struck assuming it turned even that bad for the area?

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Deep Powder
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:00:49 AM
Interesting one this, I would hazard a guess that perhaps things vary quite greatly across the area affected. For example where I live there re no trees down and no discernible damage. Yet we have had text messages from work colleagues saying it is worse in dorking and Guildford, maybe because these two towns are higher and more exposed? Certainly on the bbc travel page for surrey, there are a lot of reports for trees down around Guildford.......

As I say, however, nothing here, so a non event IMBY, but maybe not for some only 10 miles away or so. IIRC this was the case in 1987. I have pictures of whole copses flattened over the north downs and then less than a few hundred yards away, complete copses still standing........

Good to see all the reports in here! 🙂
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Rob K
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:02:00 AM
SWT reporting 29 trees blocking lines on its network. If true perhaps that is some excuse.

Closer to home the main Reading Road through Yateley apparently blocked by a fallen tree according to local Twitter.

Odiham not too far from here recorded 78mph gusts.
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Matty H
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:02:42 AM

Which news agencies will start mentioning hill/ mountain top locations or 'needle point' for proof that their hyped up journalism was right.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



Sky are already doing it. According to Sky the southern half of the UK is gone.

Bad for a few areas I've no doubt, but for here it was zilch and badly predicted as late as 9pm last night when Fergusson was touting 80mph+ gusts for the Bristol area. We didn't even get halfway to that sort of figure.

Now here's the thing - Im not criticising him or any of the other reputable forecasters (Met Office forecasters being the reputable ones). Systems like this are an absolute pig to call, and yes it was definitely inaccurate for here, but they made all the right decisions and calls. The media? Well that's another matter.

Good call by Kevin on similar storms in recent years.
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Polar Low
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:02:54 AM

I believe that bit about the trees Chelmsford to Norwich no chance


IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: micahel37 

Really? Network Rail have already removed 40 trees from lines, and many more remain blocked. 4 trains have hit trees. The chances of restoring services by 9 am is looking remote given the damage. 40,000 homes have no power and the Isle of Wight have reported 99moh gusts.

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 

Matty H
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:04:13 AM

It may not be that windy, but thanks to complete overkill by the press etc, there are virtually no trains running in the SE of England. We heard them announcing this at 5pm last night ! So trains or replacement bus services before 9am today. IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Yes, whilst Darrens point is valid in that it is very windy in a few areas the wall to wall coverage by the news agencies and forward cancelling of trains does seem a rather large over-reaction

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 



Didn't they close one of the Severn Bridges well before the storm struck assuming it turned even that bad for the area?

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



Yep. Ridiculous as the peak gust at Filton only a couple of miles from there was 39mph.
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haghir22
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:05:25 AM

Interesting one this, I would hazard a guess that perhaps things vary quite greatly across the area affected. For example where I live there re no trees down and no discernible damage. Yet we have had text messages from work colleagues saying it is worse in dorking and Guildford, maybe because these two towns are higher and more exposed? Certainly on the bbc travel page for surrey, there are a lot of reports for trees down around Guildford....... As I say, however, nothing here, so a non event IMBY, but maybe not for some only 10 miles away or so. IIRC this was the case in 1987. I have pictures of whole copses flattened over the north downs and then less than a few hundred yards away, complete copses still standing........ Good to see all the reports in here! :)

Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 


I cannot believe you have hardly any damage in Leatherhead. Epsom has been hit quite badly, i'd say a tree a mile would be the fair ratio for my drive to work in Esher. If I hadn't have left at 7am then there would be no way I could have got in as the roads I path mounted to get round trees will probably be closed by now.

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Weathermac
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:05:56 AM
Hardly a breath of wind in Bedworth despite being in the Amber warning area just lots of rain .It was much windier yesterday ! Needless to say That is good news.
Rob K
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:06:55 AM

It may not be that windy, but thanks to complete overkill by the press etc, there are virtually no trains running in the SE of England. We heard them announcing this at 5pm last night ! So trains or replacement bus services before 9am today. IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Yes, whilst Darrens point is valid in that it is very windy in a few areas the wall to wall coverage by the news agencies and forward cancelling of trains does seem a rather large over-reaction

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 



Didn't they close one of the Severn Bridges well before the storm struck assuming it turned even that bad for the area?

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 



Yep. Ridiculous as the peak gust at Filton only a couple of miles from there was 39mph.

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



But they can only go by the forecast Matty and the forecast was for a risk of winds twice that strong. Blame the forecast not whoever took the decision to close the bridge.

I think the problem is the low deepened later than originally forecast so that instead of hitting the SW it is affecting more eastern areas and later will be bad in Denmark etc.
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The Beast from the East
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:07:18 AM

Interesting one this, I would hazard a guess that perhaps things vary quite greatly across the area affected. For example where I live there re no trees down and no discernible damage. Yet we have had text messages from work colleagues saying it is worse in dorking and Guildford, maybe because these two towns are higher and more exposed? Certainly on the bbc travel page for surrey, there are a lot of reports for trees down around Guildford....... As I say, however, nothing here, so a non event IMBY, but maybe not for some only 10 miles away or so. IIRC this was the case in 1987. I have pictures of whole copses flattened over the north downs and then less than a few hundred yards away, complete copses still standing........ Good to see all the reports in here! :)

Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 


Yes, a non-event here too.


Looks quite nice out there at the moment!


 

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Gooner
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:08:00 AM


Looking at the coverage it thankfully doesn't look nearly as bad as was possible, haven't heard any deaths reported and damage looks minimal Have relatives in London saying things not bad there at all

Originally Posted by: Retron 


There was a boy swept out to sea and they've stopped searching for him. That's the only (probable) death so far reported.


As for some being a bit blasé about the whole thing (not you, btw!), it's worth noting that for many of us it's the strongest winds we've had in 13 years - that's noteworthy. And I'm sure the 40,000 people who are without power at the moment in UKPN areas would be delighted to know that it was just normal autumn winds as some are saying!


78 MPH gusts at Odiham, 70 at Heathrow and 70 MPH+ in Kent are newsworthy.


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Wasn't that Saturday ? if so can hardly be linked with this storm

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Matty H
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:08:24 AM

It may not be that windy, but thanks to complete overkill by the press etc, there are virtually no trains running in the SE of England. We heard them announcing this at 5pm last night ! So trains or replacement bus services before 9am today. IMO a complete over reaction by the rail companies. Millions commute into London every day including my husband, but nobody can go anywhere this morning. Complete lockdown for SE people who have to try and get to work.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes, whilst Darrens point is valid in that it is very windy in a few areas the wall to wall coverage by the news agencies and forward cancelling of trains does seem a rather large over-reaction

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Didn't they close one of the Severn Bridges well before the storm struck assuming it turned even that bad for the area?

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 



Yep. Ridiculous as the peak gust at Filton only a couple of miles from there was 39mph.

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 



But they can only go by the forecast Matty and the forecast was for a risk of winds twice that strong. Blame the forecast not whoever took the decision to close the bridge.

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



I've kind of covered that in my last post.

I can understand them closing the first crossing, they close that one in the summer when someone farts, but the second one was built with side barriers that were supposed to make it functional in any wind speed.
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Gooner
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:10:07 AM

Hardly a breath of wind in Bedworth despite being in the Amber warning area just lots of rain .It was much windier yesterday ! Needless to say That is good news.

Originally Posted by: Weathermac 


Yes, a non-event here also, had a few minutes of strong winds in teh early hours 3ish and that is your lot

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Whiteout
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:16:41 AM

Which news agencies will start mentioning hill/ mountain top locations or 'needle point' for proof that their hyped up journalism was right.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Sky are already doing it. According to Sky the southern half of the UK is gone. Bad for a few areas I've no doubt, but for here it was zilch and badly predicted as late as 9pm last night when Fergusson was touting 80mph+ gusts for the Bristol area. We didn't even get halfway to that sort of figure. Now here's the thing - Im not criticising him or any of the other reputable forecasters (Met Office forecasters being the reputable ones). Systems like this are an absolute pig to call, and yes it was definitely inaccurate for here, but they made all the right decisions and calls. The media? Well that's another matter. Good call by Kevin on similar storms in recent years.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Hi Matty, I am afraid it was over hyped for many areas of the UK. That Amber warning was a joke.


Yes, some far Southern areas have had 70mph gusts but that is it. A usual Autumn storm that does unfortunately bring down a few trees and power lines but that is it.


Sadly these days it is all about backside covering - nothing else. If there is a 1% chance that Birmingham for example could have a 80mph gust then they slap on a warning.

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Polar Low
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:16:48 AM

am  very pleased it is very much better here now thou have not checked roof just yet.

Rob K
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:18:13 AM
If you compare the current analysis chart with the forecast charts for this morning from two or three days ago you can see just how much this has been downgraded. A low of 974mb instead of 964 or even 960, and a gradient less than half as tight. Given that this very much weaker storm has still brought down lots of trees and caused power cuts you can only imagine what the originally modelled storm would have done!
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Monday, October 28, 2013 8:20:07 AM

I was half expecting to be kept awake for the second half of the night by the the wind howling and the roof tiles flapping. However, I only woke when  the alarm went off at 7am and could not hear any wind at all. Since then we've had a few noticeable gusts accompanied by some moderate rain, but so far absolutely nothing out of the ordinary for the time of year.

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Matty H
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:21:44 AM

Which news agencies will start mentioning hill/ mountain top locations or 'needle point' for proof that their hyped up journalism was right.

Originally Posted by: Whiteout 

Sky are already doing it. According to Sky the southern half of the UK is gone. Bad for a few areas I've no doubt, but for here it was zilch and badly predicted as late as 9pm last night when Fergusson was touting 80mph+ gusts for the Bristol area. We didn't even get halfway to that sort of figure. Now here's the thing - Im not criticising him or any of the other reputable forecasters (Met Office forecasters being the reputable ones). Systems like this are an absolute pig to call, and yes it was definitely inaccurate for here, but they made all the right decisions and calls. The media? Well that's another matter. Good call by Kevin on similar storms in recent years.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Hi Matty, I am afraid it was over hyped for many areas of the UK. That Amber warning was a joke.
Yes, some far Southern areas have had 70mph gusts but that is it. A usual Autumn storm that does unfortunately bring down a few trees and power lines but that is it.
Sadly these days it is all about backside covering - nothing else. If there is a 1% chance that Birmingham for example could have a 80mph gust then they slap on a warning. UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



I'm afraid I don't agree. If you mean sections of the media, then absolutely, but the amber warning was a necessary precaution in my opinion.
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JoeShmoe99
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:24:54 AM

I personally think the MetO and other agency warnings are justified, it's their remit to advise the public and they do a good job of it IMO


It's the media hysteria and mass cancellation of travel that i find unjustified. For example if this happens next week let's see if the people of N.Ireland and NW England, densely populated  areas, recieve the same level of coverage


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Deep Powder
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:25:33 AM

Interesting one this, I would hazard a guess that perhaps things vary quite greatly across the area affected. For example where I live there re no trees down and no discernible damage. Yet we have had text messages from work colleagues saying it is worse in dorking and Guildford, maybe because these two towns are higher and more exposed? Certainly on the bbc travel page for surrey, there are a lot of reports for trees down around Guildford....... As I say, however, nothing here, so a non event IMBY, but maybe not for some only 10 miles away or so. IIRC this was the case in 1987. I have pictures of whole copses flattened over the north downs and then less than a few hundred yards away, complete copses still standing........ Good to see all the reports in here! :)

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


I cannot believe you have hardly any damage in Leatherhead. Epsom has been hit quite badly, i'd say a tree a mile would be the fair ratio for my drive to work in Esher. If I hadn't have left at 7am then there would be no way I could have got in as the roadsI path mounted to get round trees will probably be closed by now.

Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 



It is now breezy and lovely and sunny. But as I said a few miles away in dorking things appear to be very different, I think we are more sheltered!?
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Deep Powder
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:26:44 AM

Interesting one this, I would hazard a guess that perhaps things vary quite greatly across the area affected. For example where I live there re no trees down and no discernible damage. Yet we have had text messages from work colleagues saying it is worse in dorking and Guildford, maybe because these two towns are higher and more exposed? Certainly on the bbc travel page for surrey, there are a lot of reports for trees down around Guildford....... As I say, however, nothing here, so a non event IMBY, but maybe not for some only 10 miles away or so. IIRC this was the case in 1987. I have pictures of whole copses flattened over the north downs and then less than a few hundred yards away, complete copses still standing........ Good to see all the reports in here! :)

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes, a non-event here too.
Looks quite nice out there at the moment!

Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 



Yes very nice here now, blue sky!
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turbotubbs
Monday, October 28, 2013 8:27:23 AM

Not the epic disaster movie that seemed possible on friday, at least in Wiltshire, but I was woken twice in the night by the wind, and a downstairs window was opened at one point (not latched properly).


 


Several trees and major branches down on the A36 on the way to Bath, and at least one looked like it would have caused a problem  when it first fell, but it has been chainsawed away...


 


So as with all weather events some will have different perceptions to others, but this was still significant, just not 1987 again...


 


 

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