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Coxy410
28 October 2013 19:00:49



This isn't in any way a criticism of forecasters, who were factual & sensible (the Met Office ones at least), nor a dig at anyone on here, but the way the media have portrayed this has been laughable. Talk of the storm 'making landfall'; the army of reporters dotted about the south wearing Arctic expedition clothing and talking in overly dramatic and grave voices; FFS, we even gave the storm a name!!!


I personally got the impression that the various media outlets were just itching for the storm to be like a hurricane smashing into a Gulf state.


It's just pure sensationalism.


 

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


This is it in a nutshell, Sky News this morning was quite frankly laughable


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Why do people persist with this 'Sky News' were awful theme....Simple, watch a decent news channel that isn't reliant on sensationalist headlines.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Well said that man
Steve


Newborough, Cambridgeshire
Rob K
28 October 2013 19:12:19
Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" 🙂
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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stophe
28 October 2013 19:13:19

Wendy just mentioned sting jet on the London Weather

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 



Pretty sure we experienced this in the morning at work. It was wet and windy then the rain stopped the sun came out and then the winds really got going the strongest of the morning.Then it clouded over and the winds died down a bit.
Here is a crappy video I took when it was pretty bad.didnt stay out to long as I was getting grit blown in to my eyes.

http://s590.photobucket.com/albums/ss348/stophetwo/?action=view¤t=20131028_072825_001_zpsf4ab3ea8.mp4 
Deep Powder
28 October 2013 19:23:03



I think the strongest gust we had was about 52mph, so a standard storm event with very little damage. I've only seen one fallen tree in the area. We missed out on this "sting jet", perhaps just as well but would have been nice to experience it, Perhaps someone filmed it?


 


Originally Posted by: POD 



Indeed.  I went for a walk through the Surrey National golf course, or part of it, around noon, very little damage, a few branches down.  In '87, you could not get off the hill, unless on foot, fallen trees everywhere.  Maximum gust at Kenley airfield today was 109km/hr, 67.7miles an hour.


Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 



Yes I went or a run over norbury park (north downs near leatherhead) and only the odd branch down, yet where my wife works in Dorking, only 3 or 4 miles away, plenty of trees down....definitely not 87, but was it ever meant to be? :)

Originally Posted by: POD 


No, I was not suggesting it was, although Alex Deacon, on the lunchtime news was saying it was not far off, which suprised me somewhat.  I suggest he gets a copy of Ian Currrie's books on the subject. 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Sorry did not mean to suggest you were, just an open question. I agree about the Ian Currie books, they are superb. I have a couple by him. The 87 storm pictures are incredible......

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Caz
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28 October 2013 19:32:14

Nothing out of the ordinary here, some fairly heavy rain and not as windy as yesterday afternoon, so we escaped the storm, unlike some of you.  I hope those of you in the South are recovering and your power is resumed without too much delay.


I think the Met O did well forecasting this storm and I despair of people knocking them just because they didn't get a storm in their locality.  A woman on radio 2 was giving Michael Fish a real ear bashing for encouraging people to have a day off work and she couldn't understand why her train from Northern England into London had been cancelled as the weather was OK where she was!  Doh!  You're travelling South into the storm you silly woman!!! 


 


 


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Catherine
28 October 2013 19:37:42

Here in Norwich it's been more of a blustery autumn day than a storm.


If it was stormier last night, it wasn't loud enough to wake me!

John p
28 October 2013 19:46:07

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Camberley, Surrey
moomin75
28 October 2013 19:53:25

Massive pat on the back for the Met Office, and, may I say, the models, which correctly picked this "storm" out very very early - before it had been formed.


Even GFS and NAVGEM had progged it at times, but particularly impressed with GFS, which really had the storm nailed on from way out.


OK, so the track and the strength was overplayed and underplayed at times, but there is no dobt this WAS a storm, albeit (and thankfully) not as severe as some of the models progged it to be.


However, in terms of model forecasting, this is a big winner in my view - one of the best predictions a week or more out that I have ever seen....


Met Office were not caught up in the ridiculous media hype that surrounded it, and quite frankly, as per usual, some of the media outlets should be ashamed of themselves for hyping it as something akin to 1987, which it NEVER looked likely to be.


Very tragic that there were some fatalities of course it is, but also, I must say, for once, I believe the authorities did the right thing in preparing in advance (thanks in no small part to the Met Office's performance), that doubtless prevented more casualties.


The thought of a tree falling onto a train, rather than just onto an empty track, filled me with dread.


So a big thumbs up all round from me....and though of course very tragic with the 4 deaths, it could have been a whole lot worse.....


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Essan
28 October 2013 19:54:45

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: John p 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



I think that's the "problem" with this storm: the serious damage was quite localised, even within the SE, rather than widespread across Britain as is more typically the case (ie the 3rd Jan 2012 storm).   Where the worst winds occurred, it was very, very bad.  But for most of the country it wasn't very bad at all. 

Edit: interesting to note, in light of criticism of rail company's decisions to cancel trains today, that on that occasion, a tree fell on one train and another train crashed into a fallen tree.


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POD
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28 October 2013 19:59:15




I think the strongest gust we had was about 52mph, so a standard storm event with very little damage. I've only seen one fallen tree in the area. We missed out on this "sting jet", perhaps just as well but would have been nice to experience it, Perhaps someone filmed it?


 


Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 



Indeed.  I went for a walk through the Surrey National golf course, or part of it, around noon, very little damage, a few branches down.  In '87, you could not get off the hill, unless on foot, fallen trees everywhere.  Maximum gust at Kenley airfield today was 109km/hr, 67.7miles an hour.


Originally Posted by: POD 


 


 




Yes I went or a run over norbury park (north downs near leatherhead) and only the odd branch down, yet where my wife works in Dorking, only 3 or 4 miles away, plenty of trees down....definitely not 87, but was it ever meant to be? :)

Originally Posted by: Deep Powder 


No, I was not suggesting it was, although Alex Deacon, on the lunchtime news was saying it was not far off, which suprised me somewhat.  I suggest he gets a copy of Ian Currrie's books on the subject. 


Originally Posted by: POD 



Sorry did not mean to suggest you were, just an open question. I agree about the Ian Currie books, they are superb. I have a couple by him. The 87 storm pictures are incredible......

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


No need to apologise.  It is just that a once in a 200yr storm, seems to me to be  trivialised, by some of the media.  Incidentally, according to IC the wind reached 135mph on the coast of N France in '87.


Pat, Crawley Down, West Sussex.
RobN
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28 October 2013 20:09:27


Nothing out of the ordinary here, some fairly heavy rain and not as windy as yesterday afternoon, so we escaped the storm, unlike some of you.  I hope those of you in the South are recovering and your power is resumed without too much delay.


I think the Met O did well forecasting this storm and I despair of people knocking them just because they didn't get a storm in their locality.  A woman on radio 2 was giving Michael Fish a real ear bashing for encouraging people to have a day off work and she couldn't understand why her train from Northern England into London had been cancelled as the weather was OK where she was!  Doh!  You're travelling South into the storm you silly woman!!! 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


A similar experience here. I think the centre of the storm passed over us so we didn't get any serious gusts until the wind veered sharply W just before 08:00, and then the worst of the wind was very short lived.


I think the event was handled responsibly by the MetO, authorities, airports, train companies, etc. The only criticism I have is for some of the predictably awful advanced media coverage.


It beggars belief that people complain bitterly about others looking after their safety. No doubt the woman you quoted would also complain bitterly if her rail ticket prices were raised in order to fund the clearing of all trees that stand within 10m of a railway track.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Rob K
28 October 2013 21:00:31

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: John p 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



The Reading Road was blocked by a fallen tree beside Yateley green this morning and looks like some houses were damaged on the opposite side of the green by separate trees. Also road was blocked between Yateley and Wokingham. I drove over to Basingstoke along the A30 and there were a few large branches and partially cleared small trees beside the road and lots of smaller debris.
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John p
28 October 2013 21:03:38

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Originally Posted by: John p 



The Reading Road was blocked by a fallen tree beside Yateley green this morning and looks like some houses were damaged on the opposite side of the green by separate trees. Also road was blocked between Yateley and Wokingham. I drove over to Basingstoke along the A30 and there were a few large branches and partially cleared small trees beside the road and lots of smaller debris.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



I guess we were at the end of the sting jet? It got very blowy at about 6am here, but then died down after about 20 mins.

Camberley, Surrey
Bugglesgate
28 October 2013 21:10:14

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Originally Posted by: John p 



The Reading Road was blocked by a fallen tree beside Yateley green this morning and looks like some houses were damaged on the opposite side of the green by separate trees. Also road was blocked between Yateley and Wokingham. I drove over to Basingstoke along the A30 and there were a few large branches and partially cleared small trees beside the road and lots of smaller debris.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Nothing much here in North West Hampshire.  Everyone  in to work on time and just  a few twigs and small branches reported   on the roads, although one of the guys that comes in from  the Wokingham  area had to re-route  a couple of times because of  trees down.  It sounds  like the area of stronger gusts was quite well defined.


 


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Sevendust
28 October 2013 21:20:42

The moment where I had to stop on the A339 this morning. I had to avoid a series of large branches and counted 9 fallen trees on the journey.....and that was in the dark



 

idj20
28 October 2013 21:27:31

I've just looked at some impressive photos of waves crashing high over the sea walls taken this morning along the South Kent coast and yet it was a retreating neap tide at that time. Imagine if it was a high spring tide  . . . doesn't bear thinking as we would have had to contend with extensive flooding on prone low lying coastal areas (eg, the Dymchurch caravan park, Greatstone and Camber Sands).

* Shiver *.


(PS: This is NOT my photo, I was too chicken to get out there with the camera - this image belongs to this group: https://www.facebook.com/Doverseasafari )


Folkestone Harbour. 
Sevendust
28 October 2013 21:30:24

That was my pick of the bunch Ian - hence the sharing on facebook!

idj20
28 October 2013 21:38:59


That was my pick of the bunch Ian - hence the sharing on facebook!


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 



 Hope you didn't mind me "beating you to it" but it is the money shot. A shame that it wasn't taken by me.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Darren S
28 October 2013 22:11:30

Now I've been out and about it is clear that this area did see significant damage. Lots of trees down in Yateley. One big one has come down across the entrance to the Casa hotel, still leaning at an angle across the road propped up on trees on the other side and I saw cars driving under it. Prerty dumb if you ask me!

Trees have fallen across several gardens and damaged houses nearby. Friends in Hook have only recently had power restored.

Probably worst storm in terms of local impact since 1990.

(Incidentally I think a lot of people on Facebook etc need to learn what "the worst since X" means. It doesn't mean "worse than X" :-)

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



That's amazing as here in Farnborough, not far from you, the worst I saw was a wheelie bin had blown over!

Originally Posted by: John p 



The Reading Road was blocked by a fallen tree beside Yateley green this morning and looks like some houses were damaged on the opposite side of the green by separate trees. Also road was blocked between Yateley and Wokingham. I drove over to Basingstoke along the A30 and there were a few large branches and partially cleared small trees beside the road and lots of smaller debris.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


There was a large limb of a tree part blocking the A327 between Eversley and the A30 when I drove to work this morning, but I was able to drive around it. There were smaller branches down all over the place as well. The areas without power were quite random, because in the office in Hook we had power all day, and yet some parts of Hook had no power all day. Parts of Hartley Wintney were also without power, the traffic lights near the Texaco garage were out this morning, and this evening when I drove home, and yet some houses clearly did have power.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
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28 October 2013 22:23:08
Just to endorse other posters' comments re the outstanding performance of the Met Office....no doubt many lives saved as a result...just flown back from Belfast to Gatwick..amazed how smooth the flight was! A bit chaotic at Gatwick with Southern.. But entirely understandable given the number of trees down on the lines...
picturesareme
28 October 2013 22:23:55
After watching the on sight news reports this morning on the BBC and catching up on sky's this evening I jut want to say a BIG LOL : D

Clearly these reporters are inland city folk. The excitement and dramatic descriptions, the wind and frothy seas and big waves. Like me when I see a few inches of snow lol.

One guy on bbc this morning at Brighton around 9am was really describing just how rough the seas where at the time and there where lots of camera shots etc, he went on to say just how strong the winds where so the viewers knew. Next he introduces Alex deaken for an 'expert' description of current conditions... Lol.. Deaken was 'this just a lovely breezy day, Brighton see's conditions like this 4-5 times a year. Nice to go for a walk in this weather.' 😂
At the time gust of about 50-55mph where being recorded locally.

Scooter
28 October 2013 22:53:45

Well we have power again now.


Was out from 5am until 6:30pm!

Twister
29 October 2013 06:56:43

The media has been saying this is the worst storm in S England since 1987. Not sure if this is verified or not as I recall a few other similarly powerful systems since then (eg. Jan 1990, Oct 2000, Oct 2007/8 (?)).


Having said that, the storm certainly had a significant impact here in Kent. A few pics of my commute to Folkestone:


  


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DeeDee
29 October 2013 07:45:13

Wendy just mentioned sting jet on the London WeatherUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 



And a few minutes about it one the One Show with John Hammond . Pretty convinced thats what happened here : all quiet until 6.30am then an hour of strong gales.
Harpenden, Herts.
Solar Cycles
29 October 2013 08:53:53

I think a lot of credit should go to the GEM model which was the first one to pick up on this storm 10+ days out.

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