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roger63
29 October 2013 09:38:45

An update from Denmark. Storm hit yesterday aftetnoon Record wind gust speed of 120mph on the island of Als near Jutland.  OverDenamrk 50 trains with 5000 passengers trapped by falling trees on the  line.

sunny coast
29 October 2013 09:50:49


The media has been saying this is the worst storm in S England since 1987. Not sure if this is verified or not as I recall a few other similarly powerful systems since then (eg. Jan 1990, Oct 2000, Oct 2007/8 (?)).


Having said that, the storm certainly had a significant impact here in Kent. A few pics of my commute to Folkestone:


  


Originally Posted by: Twister 

the storm of 87 is the one always quoted by the media but as you say there have been powerful storms since notably the Jan 25 1990 which was a nationwide event whereas 87 was over a more restricted area. Following Jan 90 there were a series of violent gales in Feb 1990, 6 Dec 1993 Therre were several in the late 90s including boxing day 1998, also the Xmas eve storm 1999 very severe in this area( east sussex coast where local communities were evacuated) late Oct 2000, oct 27/8 2002 then Jan 05 in the North west of Scotland and Jan 19 2007 > There are probably others i have missed but these I think are the main events 

Clare
29 October 2013 11:15:14
My highest recorded wind was Jan 2007, with 49 kts....
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Rob K
29 October 2013 11:24:56


An update from Denmark. Storm hit yesterday aftetnoon Record wind gust speed of 120mph on the island of Als near Jutland.  OverDenamrk 50 trains with 5000 passengers trapped by falling trees on the  line.


Originally Posted by: roger63 


Perhaps a vindication of the UK operators' decision not to run trains until the storm passed?


 


Twister: good photos there. In my own area I would say this storm has caused the worst damage since the Burns Day storm. Not nearly as bad as that storm, but I can't think of any occasions since that have brought so many trees down.


I think we did get the sting jet here based on the sound I heard around 6am. However I was too lazy to get out of bed and have a look outside as it was going on!


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TomC
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29 October 2013 11:42:24

As others have said it was an excellent forecast particularly at the 48 hour to 24 hour range. Shows just how much forecasting of the development of these kinds of systems has improved in the last 25 years. This is really a product of much better understanding from detailed research studies.

Essan
29 October 2013 13:20:13


the storm of 87 is the one always quoted by the media but as you say there have been powerful storms since notably the Jan 25 1990 which was a nationwide event whereas 87 was over a more restricted area. Following Jan 90 there were a series of violent gales in Feb 1990, 6 Dec 1993 Therre were several in the late 90s including boxing day 1998, also the Xmas eve storm 1999 very severe in this area( east sussex coast where local communities were evacuated) late Oct 2000, oct 27/8 2002 then Jan 05 in the North west of Scotland and Jan 19 2007 > There are probably others i have missed but these I think are the main events 


Originally Posted by: sunny coast 



Jan 3rd 2012 storm - which produced gusts ranging from 93mph outside Sheffield (per BBC) to 89mph at Glasgow Airport and 81mph at Thorney Island (per weatheronline).   May not have been quite as strong winds, but they affected the whole of Britain.  Two people died and many were injured.  Trains hit trees and trees hit trains. 


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nsrobins
29 October 2013 15:53:42

The Jan 25th 1990 storm was easily the most severe DAYTIME event in this region in the last 30 years.
Well forecast it has to be said with a few days warning leading up to a three hour period of extreme gusts of over 80mph even in the centre of Portsmouth.
It is a rare event when you can stand in your office window and watch roof tiles being picked-up and thrown into parked cars. Actually watched two mature trees felled in a single gust which is an incredible thing to see.

The storm on Sunday night could have been much worse than it was and I am not alone in breathing a sigh of relief it didn't quite develop as it may have done.


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Medlock Vale Weather
29 October 2013 17:17:30

Was St Jude's storm really that bad? 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/10409362/Was-St-Judes-storm-really-that-bad.html


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Gooner
29 October 2013 19:01:34

Great pics guys


Certainly wouldn't fancy being near the sea front


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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29 October 2013 21:34:48



An update from Denmark. Storm hit yesterday aftetnoon Record wind gust speed of 120mph on the island of Als near Jutland.  OverDenamrk 50 trains with 5000 passengers trapped by falling trees on the  line.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Perhaps a vindication of the UK operators' decision not to run trains until the storm passed?


 


Twister: good photos there. In my own area I would say this storm has caused the worst damage since the Burns Day storm. Not nearly as bad as that storm, but I can't think of any occasions since that have brought so many trees down.


I think we did get the sting jet here based on the sound I heard around 6am. However I was too lazy to get out of bed and have a look outside as it was going on!


Originally Posted by: roger63 


Similar situation here. Unfortunately I was in the shower at 6am as the roar came through but it was very loud indeed. No damage in my garden but between my house and the one next door there is a small patch of waste ground with two trees on it. They have lost the odd branch in the past in storms but this time they lost about 50% of their branches. The smaller tree near my house did have two main leaders to its trunk. On this one the top halves of both leaders were ripped clean off the tree completely by the wind which must require more force than tearing off a branch which has an obvious weak point where it joins the trunk. The tree is now just a very tall stump with a couple of lower branches left.


Fortunately (for me) the wind blew all the branches against my neighbour's house. I got quite a shock when I went outside my front door as I had no idea this had happened. My neighbour's driveway was littered with large branches. Usually there is at least one car on that driveway but they must have been away Sunday night because it was empty. Good thing to because any car that was there would have suffered serious damage.


I must take a photo but have not had a chance yet. I don't know exactly when it happened but I suspect it was when that roar came through at 6am.

Bugglesgate
29 October 2013 21:56:44


The Jan 25th 1990 storm was easily the most severe DAYTIME event in this region in the last 30 years.
Well forecast it has to be said with a few days warning leading up to a three hour period of extreme gusts of over 80mph even in the centre of Portsmouth.
It is a rare event when you can stand in your office window and watch roof tiles being picked-up and thrown into parked cars. Actually watched two mature trees felled in a single gust which is an incredible thing to see.

The storm on Sunday night could have been much worse than it was and I am not alone in breathing a sigh of relief it didn't quite develop as it may have done.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Yes, the 1990 storm was certainly the worst I can remember in this area.  We lost all the roof ridge tiles and    a couple of dozen slates.  The power was off for nearly a week.  The 1987 storm wasn't so bad here, but it was pretty grim in Surbiton where I was in digs for Kingston poly.   Lots of felled trees and lots of damaged cars.


As a home owner especially, I’m extremely glad Sundays storm didn't approach the severity of either of those 2 - Lot of dammed hassle and danger all round !


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Sevendust
29 October 2013 22:23:20



the storm of 87 is the one always quoted by the media but as you say there have been powerful storms since notably the Jan 25 1990 which was a nationwide event whereas 87 was over a more restricted area. Following Jan 90 there were a series of violent gales in Feb 1990, 6 Dec 1993 Therre were several in the late 90s including boxing day 1998, also the Xmas eve storm 1999 very severe in this area( east sussex coast where local communities were evacuated) late Oct 2000, oct 27/8 2002 then Jan 05 in the North west of Scotland and Jan 19 2007 > There are probably others i have missed but these I think are the main events 


Originally Posted by: Essan 



Jan 3rd 2012 storm - which produced gusts ranging from 93mph outside Sheffield (per BBC) to 89mph at Glasgow Airport and 81mph at Thorney Island (per weatheronline).   May not have been quite as strong winds, but they affected the whole of Britain.  Two people died and many were injured.  Trains hit trees and trees hit trains. 


Originally Posted by: sunny coast 


Found a video of the CF squall on the wifes youtube channel for that 2012 event


http://youtu.be/SfxbXFLsl8w


Snow Hoper
30 October 2013 05:41:35

Power went out at 08:10 on Monday morning finally got it back at 17:00 yesterday evening. Plenty of trees down, but on the whole, even riding the post bike I was wondering what all the fuss was about!


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johnr
30 October 2013 14:11:35


Power went out at 08:10 on Monday morning finally got it back at 17:00 yesterday evening. Plenty of trees down, but on the whole, even riding the post bike I was wondering what all the fuss was about!


Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


 


I think it depends where you were between 7.45am and 8.15am. The 8.10 gust that cut your power also blew over two lorries on the A140. After that, it was just a windy day.


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ARTzeman
30 October 2013 14:28:55


Great pics guys


Certainly wouldn't fancy being near the sea front


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Glad I willnot be along the South Coast with the heavy rain and possible Large waves for Friday and Saturday...






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Polar Low
30 October 2013 17:05:07

Suffolk/Essex: Around 23,000 households remain without power for third day in wake of storm


 


think we might have had the sting in its tail around here many many lost trees


 


 


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk_essex_around_23_000_households_remain_without_power_for_third_day_in_wake_of_storm_1_2941459

Essan
30 October 2013 18:33:32

Good piece from the MetO comparing this storm with past ones:

how powerful was Monday's storm?

Bet the media ignore it!


Andy
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02 November 2013 14:00:38

One thing I am struggling with is why the Met Office did not issue a red warning on Monday.


Their warning page gives the following storm from 2007 as an example of one that would have triggered a red warning under the current warning system.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/guide/weather/warnings-case-studies/wind-warning-red


That looks remarkably similar to the situation we had on Monday.
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/major-atlantic-storm-fastest-winds-and-heaviest-rain/


The only differences I can see are that the 2007 storm did occur in the middle of the day whereas this week's storm was in the early morning so there were fewer people around. But we did have the trees still in leaf unlike in January which would suggest the impact factor would be higher in that respect.


If you look at the list of impact events from that 2007 storm and the strongest wind gusts they are really very similar to what we had on Monday. So while the St Jude's storm was very well forecast my personal view is that the Met Office should have issued a red warning.


 

Matty H
02 November 2013 14:03:37

One thing I am struggling with is why the Met Office did not issue a red warning on Monday.


Their warning page gives the following storm from 2007 as an example of one that would have triggered a red warning under the current warning system.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/guide/weather/warnings-case-studies/wind-warning-red


That looks remarkably similar to the situation we had on Monday.
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/major-atlantic-storm-fastest-winds-and-heaviest-rain/


The only differences I can see are that the 2007 storm did occur in the middle of the day whereas this week's storm was in the early morning so there were fewer people around. But we did have the trees still in leaf unlike in January which would suggest the impact factor would be higher in that respect.


If you look at the list of impact events from that 2007 storm and the strongest wind gusts they are really very similar to what we had on Monday. So while the St Jude's storm was very well forecast my personal view is that the Met Office should have issued a red warning.


 

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 



My opinion is the warning system is often sketchy. Why haven't Amber warnings been issued for today?
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10 November 2013 15:01:41


Great pics guys


Certainly wouldn't fancy being near the sea front


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Especially in Denmark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKoeiX8-NUo 


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