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Matty H
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Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:46:11 PM
This is an absolute monster! 😱 Sustained winds of close to 200mph is going to cause complete devastation in some areas:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24852005 
nouska
Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:14:42 PM



Super Typhoon Haiyan has made landfall. According to PAGASA, Haiyan came ashore at 4 am local time (20 UTC) November 7, 2013 near Guiuan, on the Philippine island of Samar. At the time, Guiuan reported sustained 10-minute average winds of 96 mph, with a pressure of 977 mb. Contact has since been lost with the city. Two hours before landfall, the Joint Typhoon Warning Center assessed Haiyan’s sustained winds at 195 mph, gusting to 235 mph, making it the 4th strongest tropical cyclone in world history. Satellite loops show that Haiyan weakened only slightly, if at all, in the two hours after JTWC’s advisory, so the super typhoon likely made landfall with winds near 195 mph. This makes Haiyan the strongest tropical cyclone on record to make landfall in world history. The previous record was held by the Atlantic's Hurricane Camille of 1969, which made landfall in Mississippi with 190 mph winds.


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nsrobins
Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:46:21 PM

Visible loop of Haiyan


http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/westpac/movies/gmsirbbm/gmsirbbmjava.html


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Gandalf The White
Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:47:59 PM

Some useful stuff here:


http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/super-typhoon-haiyan-a-serious/19561621 


The storm is heading for Vietnam.


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The Beast from the East
Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:48:45 PM

I didnt even know about this until now. If this was an Atlantic Hurricane, it would have been all over the news for days


 


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Jiries
Friday, November 8, 2013 1:54:20 AM


Some useful stuff here:


http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/super-typhoon-haiyan-a-serious/19561621 


The storm is heading for Vietnam.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Lucky the eye centre didn't cross over my wife's home town as we have a house there which would not stand this such strong winds.

idj20
Friday, November 8, 2013 8:00:35 AM

Certainly making up for that quiet Atlantic hurricane season.

Gusts of up to 230 mph, that's terrifyingly fast.


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beaufort
Friday, November 8, 2013 8:04:37 AM

I've experienced winds gusting to approximately 90 Kts I can't imagine the sustained wind speeds they've experienced.

NMA
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Friday, November 8, 2013 8:26:26 AM

It looks like an big storm even by Philippines standards. It must be quite an experience to be under the calm of the eye when a short time before you would have experienced some incredible winds and would probably do so again a short time later.


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Friday, November 8, 2013 8:38:06 AM

You wonder just how strong buildings have to be to stand up to that sort of wind - worse than many tornados but will be over a much larger area. Do Filipinos have storm shelters as in the mid-West? If not, the prospects are really bad


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Friday, November 8, 2013 9:06:10 AM


You wonder just how strong buildings have to be to stand up to that sort of wind - worse than many tornados but will be over a much larger area. Do Filipinos have storm shelters as in the mid-West? If not, the prospects are really bad


Originally Posted by: DEW 


They tend to use schools and other public buildings to shelter in which are usually built with concrete walls and provide reaonable protection.


The poor people usually have houses built from  sawali which is a woven material made from bamboo and roofed with nipa from a species of palm tree, These houses will blow/wash away but are relatively easy to rebuild. However they have to be rebuilt every few years anyway because termites eat them. But this storm looks a little different to the run of the mill typhoon that crossses the Philippines.


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idj20
Friday, November 8, 2013 5:04:52 PM

Apparently the death toll is only three which is surprisingly - and mercifully - low for such an event. But I'm sure the total will slowly creep up as more details emerges in time.
  Or perhaps their warning/shelter system turned out to be effective.


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Matty H
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Friday, November 8, 2013 6:22:42 PM
I would be nothing short of flabbergasted if its that low. Coastal Vietnam is going to get slammed as well.
idj20
Friday, November 8, 2013 9:52:03 PM

I would be nothing short of flabbergasted if its that low. Coastal Vietnam is going to get slammed as well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Indeed.

Sadly, the death toll is now starting to mount up.  http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/334671/news/nation/yolanda-on-the-way-out-56-fatalities-reported


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Phil G
Friday, November 8, 2013 10:08:24 PM


You wonder just how strong buildings have to be to stand up to that sort of wind - worse than many tornados but will be over a much larger area. Do Filipinos have storm shelters as in the mid-West? If not, the prospects are really bad

Originally Posted by: NMA 


They tend to use schools and other public buildings to shelter in which are usually built with concrete walls and provide reaonable protection.
The poor people usually have houses built from sawali which is a woven material made from bamboo and roofed with nipa from a species of palm tree, These houses will blow/washaway but are relatively easy to rebuild.However they have to be rebuilt every few years anywaybecause termites eat them. But this storm looks a little different to the run of the mill typhoon that crossses the Philippines.
Nick

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Hope there is enough of those natural raw materials left intact for the poor people to rebuild.

Gooner
Friday, November 8, 2013 10:54:57 PM

Looks horrendous , heart goes out to those in it's path


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Matty H
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Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:36:07 AM

I would be nothing short of flabbergasted if its that low. Coastal Vietnam is going to get slammed as well.

Originally Posted by: idj20 



Indeed.

Sadly, the death toll is now starting to mount up. UserPostedImagehttp://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/334671/news/nation/yolanda-on-the-way-out-56-fatalities-reported 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I expect the final tally to be hundreds, if not into the thousands. That's purely based on historical similarities. Hopefully wide of the mark.
AIMSIR
Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:22:23 AM

This is an absolute monster! Sustained winds of close to 200mph is going to cause complete devastation in some areas:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24852005

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

It sure is a rough storm Matty and bound to cause a lot of grief and death.but unlikely to be a record breaking storm.imo.


Sustained winds of 200mph just isn't real.


A 1200 mile diameter as reported is also doubtful.imo.


It's a big one for sure,but I would be careful of media hype.(it's not the biggest ever and is not a" super storm" by any meteorological definition)


Sure is another killer though.


Hopefully' sustained aid' can get in quickly when it has passed .


 

Rob K
Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:48:12 AM
Saw some footage on the news this morning - some of it was reminiscent of scenes from the Banda Aceh tsunami, truly shocking :(

Sadly with communications destroyed in many parts it will be a while before the full picture emerges.

Let's hear it for the UK's "boring" climate...

Any updates on what the central pressure might have fallen to?
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doctormog
Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:54:55 AM

Saw some footage on the news this morning - some of it was reminiscent of scenes from the Banda Aceh tsunami, truly shocking :(

Sadly with communications destroyed in many parts it will be a while before the full picture emerges.

Let's hear it for the UK's "boring" climate...

Any updates on what the central pressure might have fallen to?

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



The lowest reliable value I can see is 895hPa.

http://agora.ex.nii.ac.jp/digital-typhoon/summary/wnp/s/201330.html.en 
NMA
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Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:11:10 AM

The aftermath looks shocking. I saw the results of floods and a huge slum fire when I was there but sadly this kind of event is something that occurs regularly in the Philippines. They are very resilient people and will soon rebuild their lives much like the Japanese appear to be doing after their tsunami.


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SEMerc
Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:59:46 PM

LOL at the Fail. Don't they have any subs down there?


"Winds of up to 235mph and gusts of 170mph left a trail of destruction - triggering major landslides, knocking out power and communications and causing catastrophic widespread damage. Hundreds of homes have been flattened and scores of streets flooded."

beaufort
Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:22:00 PM

Red Cross estimating 1200 killed.

SEMerc
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:13:14 AM

Local government official out there just quoted by Sky as saying death toll could hit 10,000.

NickR
Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:59:22 AM


Local government official out there just quoted by Sky as saying death toll could hit 10,000.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


THat's just in one area. The pictures are horrendous - entire towns have been flattened.


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