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Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:16:21 PM

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Polar Low
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:21:47 PM

Now you are talking David my toilet frozen for many weeks in 62/63 and windows deep ice inside many white out conditions uk wide snow stroms and very deep drifts with long lasting weeks of cold I doubt sadly i will see that again in my life time again.


 


 



Off-topic, but I have to disagree with those that have described last winter as "drawn-out". Yes, March was unusually cold and did I think return a lower CET figure than any of the three official winter months did, but the real cold, at least here didn't start until the tail end of the winter. It was hardly a 62/63 type winter when the really harsh cold went on for months.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

GIBBY
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:23:27 PM

Good evening. Here is the report on the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday November 13th 2013.


All models show a cold front crossing England and Wales this evening and tonight, clearing the SE by morning. A band of rain will clear to showers and rather cold air. Through tomorrow pressure builds and a ridge develops across the UK on Thursday night and Friday with the risk of a frost tomorrow night. On Friday milder Atlantic air will creep around the Northern flank of High pressure to the SW with most of Friday and Saturday ending up benign and rather cloudy with moderate Westerly winds and little if any rain or sunshine and average temperatures. On Sunday the weather remains rather cloudy and a band of rain will slip South across the UK through the day.


GFS then shows the start of next week with a cold northerly flow setting in with wintry showers flooding down from the North for a time. Temperatures will fall below average and as a ridge of High pressure pushes in from the West frosts at night will become more notable and sharp. However, milder air will again filter around the Northern flank of High pressure down to the SW with cloudy skies and a moderate West wind alternating with further incursions of colder and potentially wintry showery air at times, at least over the North.


UKMO shows a deepening and cold Northerly flow moving down from the North on Tuesday with wintry showers in the North extending to all areas with snow to lower levels in the North and even the chance of seeing some over Southern hills too above 1000ft or so.


GEM shows a cold Northerly developing early next week with wintry showers over Northern, Eastern and Western coasts with a lot of dry weather inland with some frosty nights. Little change then is shown in this overall pattern out to Day 10 with frosty nights and daytime temperatures remaining on the low side of average for all with the continued risk of wintry showers in the East.


NAVGEM also shows a cool off next week but with less power to any Northerly feed. Instead Low pressure down to the SW and up to the NE allows a weak ridge to be maintained over the UK from mid Atlantic with cold and frosty weather likely with some freezing fog patches possible too.


ECM tonight shows a cold Northerly plunge at the beginning of the week with some rain followed by wintry showers with snow over the hills. As the run lngthens High pressure to the NW moves in closer to the NW with frosty cold conditions here. In the South Low pressure over Europe maintains a chilly Easterly or NE flow with rain or sleet in places.


The GFS Ensembles show a sharp fall in uppers after the next three or four days. This though is steadily eroded away to more average uppers when taken as the pack. High pressure is the dominant factor and the catalyst to feed milder Atlantic winds across the UK between colder polar air phases with some rain on the boundary fronts at times.


The Jet Stream shows the flow riding high ver the Atlantic and over Iceland currently. Later in the weekend and next week it dives South from the Iceland area and down over or to the West of the UK. Beyond that there is some suggestion that a more Southerly tracking Jet could maintain rather colder conditions near the British Isles.


In Summary tonight the theme of colder weather is strengthening as each day passes. GFS only goes for a short cold shot before milder air infiltrates around a High to the SW and over the British Isles. All other models go for something rather more sustained with a cold northerly spell giving way to the possibility of a more NE feed across the South as High pressure builds to the NW cutting any Atlantic attack off. In reality I still feel that several days of cold and unsettled weather when some may see some snow will eventually be transferred into a High pressure based pattern, it centred somewhere near the UK giving widespread frost and fog problems and largely dry weather.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Polar Low
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:31:56 PM

Nice http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


lovely split grenny a little higher out comes > will be different tomorrow

Polar Low
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:33:08 PM


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


Chilly end to the Met/o 12z.


as is navgm good match


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgeme_cartes.php?ech=144&code=0&mode=0&carte=1&archive=0


 


 


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 

Polar Low
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:42:44 PM

intresting gfs wants to play the trough more for support of the mid adlantic ridge but ecm plays the trough more in europe at day 10


both generally very good but imo ecm wont end like it has done tonight


http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ECMWF_0z/hgtcomp.html

Polar Low
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:45:29 PM

Thanks very much Martin brillant as always

Whether Idle
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:47:14 PM

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=198&mode=0&carte=0


and


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=240&mode=0&carte=0


 


are indicative of an increasingly cold output from the weather computers.  IF these charts come to pass then we will be talking about a significant November cold spell by the month's end.


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The Beast from the East
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:04:59 PM

As we saw last  winter, a proper greenland high never seems to build. Hope this does not also become a recurring theme this year. However,  it does not mean we cannot have cold and snow but without proper northern blocking it is never  sustainable and the uppers are not cold enough yet to perk my interest as I dont live on a mountain!


But any cold weather is welcome


 


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Gooner
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:23:59 PM

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2013/11/13/basis12/ukuk/rart/13111906_2_1312.gif


JFF


A covering of snow for parts of the North


 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nickl
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:51:27 PM


As we saw last  winter, a proper greenland high never seems to build. Hope this does not also become a recurring theme this year. However,  it does not mean we cannot have cold and snow but without proper northern blocking it is never  sustainable and the uppers are not cold enough yet to perk my interest as I dont live on a mountain!


But any cold weather is welcome


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


without a 'proper greeny block' (march saw proper greeny blocking but then thats spring innit!)  we saw very cold weather from mid jan onwards. thets the point beast - you dont need a strong block. just get the pfj south of you and weak blocking can be very effectie.

doctormog
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:11:51 PM
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1263.png 

What happens after that (if that actually materialises!) seems to be gradually evolving. Into what I don't know.
Gooner
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:20:06 PM
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1263.png 

What happens after that (if that actually materialises!) seems to be gradually evolving. Into what I don't know.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn13817.png


A very cold day for you Michael


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:22:33 PM

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn15617.png


At last a decent frost for many next Wednesday morning 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


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