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Gooner
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:47:03 PM


Another downgrade, and indeed towards the end of the run the jet is showing signs of flattening out. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3601.png


Disagree with you, 12z ended with cool/cold days and HP dominated as does the 18z


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


idj20
Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:22:34 PM


That's it then. BOM is the new best model. Well, until it shows an unfavourable solution, and then whichever one is showing cold becomes the new best one. Flapper Wink Big smile

Joking aside, still looks like a very seasonal week coming up. Typical autumn fare. Smile

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


All of you know deep down, which model really is the best....


 


(and it isn't the ECM) 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I'm more of a Hornby Railways person as they produce the best models.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Karl Guille
Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:24:24 PM



ecm mean


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1921.html


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Now perhaps that ECM mean from the other day that caused such a kerfufle is making a bit more sense.

No dramatic easterlies with sudden sub-zero incursions are on the menu just yet, but if synoptics continue to trend the way they are, it's only a matter of time IMO.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed if its long term cold you are after then the ECM 10 day Mean is a Beauty. Stunning charts for the time of year.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.html

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 



That truly is a thing of beauty! It will be interesting to see where the GFS 18z Op sits in the ensembles! 🙂

St. Sampson
Guernsey
Whether Idle
Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:31:41 AM

GEM:    http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=0&carte=0


UKMO: http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=144&carte=1021


GFS:    http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=144&mode=0


ECM: http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=0&archive=0


 Looks like its going to evelove into a northern blocked scenario so no doubt the mighty ECM will displace BOM this morning as a talking point.


ECM at 192 (deep FI) http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=192&mode=1&map=0&archive=0


ECM at 240 - http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=240&mode=1&map=0&type=0&archive=0


 


GEFS Ens London 0z:  http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&x=306&y=141&ville=Londres


A 4 to 5 day cold snap now seems pretty nailed on.  The GEM shows some longevity, keeping things going with a weak Scandinavian Ridge out to day 9, before reverting to a flatter pattern depicted by GFS; the ECM with its more sustained nothern blocking will the connoisseurs' choice


London has the geatest chance of wintry precipitation on Wednesday, no doubt areas with altitude will stand a better chance.


Windward coastal areas with a long fetch  will most likely only get rain whatever:


http://www.cincfleetwoc.com/HF-Fax/North_Atlantic/NEATL_HO_SST_UNCL_0000_T000.png.html


SSTs between 10 and 13 c!!


 


WI


 


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Sevendust
Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:17:15 AM

Excellent summary WI

haghir22
Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:47:39 AM

Excellent summary WI

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 



Second that. I was just reading it thinking what a great summary of where we are at and a pre-cursor to the chaos that will ensue from now on...

YNWA
Whether Idle
Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:48:56 AM


Excellent summary WI


Originally Posted by: haghir22 



Second that. I was just reading it thinking what a great summary of where we are at and a pre-cursor to the chaos that will ensue from now on...

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Cheers.  Nice to have my interest ignited by the turning of the season; some fascinating synoptics and the TIME!


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Polar Low
Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:53:42 AM

gfs mean edges it into scadi looks quite a cold outlook there.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=180&code=21&mode=0&carte=1

Retron
Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:23:53 AM

0z ECM ensembles:

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2cco00z.jpg

Quite a downgrade in terms of cold today - whereas yesterday there were a couple of days with a 3C mean maximum, today it's 4C and 6C respectively. It's still a few degrees below average, mind you.


Leysdown, north Kent
Gooner
Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:32:05 AM


0z ECM ensembles:

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2cco00z.jpg

Quite a downgrade in terms of cold today - whereas yesterday there were a couple of days with a 3C mean maximum, today it's 4C and 6C respectively. It's still a few degrees below average, mind you.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Sadly, yes. A lifting in temps , was showing IMBY 2's ,3's and 4's now the dizzy heights of 6


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Twister
Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:45:51 AM


gfs mean edges it into scadi looks quite a cold outlook there.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=180&code=21&mode=0&carte=1


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


...and close to bringing in decent WAA up E Greenland to help promote heights further?


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Essan
Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:49:54 AM



That's it then. BOM is the new best model. Well, until it shows an unfavourable solution, and then whichever one is showing cold becomes the new best one. Flapper Wink Big smile

Joking aside, still looks like a very seasonal week coming up. Typical autumn fare. Smile

Originally Posted by: idj20 


All of you know deep down, which model really is the best....


 


(and it isn't the ECM) 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



I'm more of a Hornby Railways person as they produce the best models.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Nah, Bachmann are better


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Matty H
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