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Hungry Tiger
05 December 2013 21:26:49


Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


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idj20
05 December 2013 21:30:02



Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: idj20 



I could go back out there with the camcorder where the sea would have to be charging in and filling up to the brim in less than three hours, but my elderly mother isn't keen on the idea of me going back out there again.


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beanoir
05 December 2013 21:33:28




Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 



I could go back out there with the camcorder where the sea would have to be charging in and filling up to the brim in less than three hours, but my elderly mother isn't keen on the idea of me going back out there again.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Send her out nstead then 😉  


Time lapse on a webcam would be good - thats not a suggestion by the way, just a pointless comment... 


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Hungry Tiger
05 December 2013 21:34:17




Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 



I could go back out there with the camcorder where the sea would have to be charging in and filling up to the brim in less than three hours, but my elderly mother isn't keen on the idea of me going back out there again.


Originally Posted by: idj20 



Keep yourself safe  - that's the main thing.


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llamedos
05 December 2013 21:39:05


Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: idj20 

If my memory serves me well with a spring tide the movement and volume of water from low tide to high tide is quite rapid and relentless, just a continuous flow of sea water. If this is coupled with a massive surge of water moving down the North Sea into the funnelled area of the North Sea that Folkestone occupies, I would imagine you could see a massive surge tide.  


Edit: lull before the storm if you know whatI mean.    


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Jonesy
05 December 2013 21:42:17




Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 



I could go back out there with the camcorder where the sea would have to be charging in and filling up to the brim in less than three hours, but my elderly mother isn't keen on the idea of me going back out there again.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Can she not put a set of reins on you


I been down the Medway and bit worried for places round there for sure


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SydneyonTees
05 December 2013 21:43:24

Just seen some footage from my home area of Whitby! Power out and sea water flooding the harbour, looks bad. Hopefully everyone is ok.


My parents place is up on the moors and they have lots a few roof tiles they say but nothing too bad.

nsrobins
05 December 2013 21:43:45



Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


I'm not an oceanographer, but it looks like a negative trough effect similar to pre-tsunami approach.
The tidal dome has pulled water in from the forward slope. If this is correct, I would expect a rapidly rising todal surge in the next hour.


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nsrobins
05 December 2013 21:45:09

 



The Conservative MP for Great Yarmouth Brandon Lewis has told BBC Radio Norfolk in the past few minutes that the Army has been called in to help fight the floods in Gorleston. According to Mr Lewis, the Army is currently helping to erect temporary flood barriers.



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Hungry Tiger
05 December 2013 21:51:55




Mmm, this is peculiar. I've just walked down to the harbour and even the outer harbour is still in dry dock with boats sitting on sand, exactly how it looks like at low tide, as well as all being calm, clear and feeling mild, yet the spring tide is less then three hours away.

What's going on?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Ian if you don't mind sitting up a bit later - I hope you've got your camera - You might be able to get some decent photos.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


I'm not an oceanographer, but it looks like a negative trough effect similar to pre-tsunami approach.
The tidal dome has pulled water in from the forward slope. If this is correct, I would expect a rapidly rising todal surge in the next hour.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


It would be good if Ian could see this if it happens - But make sure you're standing in a safe area for heavens sake. Scary this is. Ian's descriptions of things where he is is indeed scary - I wonder if one heck of a wave will rampage through the area in the next hour or so.



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eastcoaster
05 December 2013 21:53:24
The tide was exceptionally low here about 5pm, an hour before low tide, as is the nature of spring tides. It gives you a false sense of security because it starts coming in like a train, I have just been standing as close as is safe and it is remarkable. The fishermen at sizewell have been frantically clearing their boats from the ground they had moved them to earlier on today, to even higher ground. High tide here will be about quarter past midnight, it's going to be a long 2 or 3 hours.
Hungry Tiger
05 December 2013 21:54:46

The tide was exceptionally low here about 5pm, an hour before low tide, as is the nature of spring tides. It gives you a false sense of security because it starts coming in like a train, I have just been standing as close as is safe and it is remarkable. The fishermen at sizewell have been frantically clearing their boats from the ground they had moved them to earlier on today, to even higher ground. High tide here will be about quarter past midnight, it's going to be a long 2 or 3 hours.


Originally Posted by: eastcoaster 


That's an indication of what will happen further a long the coast I reckon.


 


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llamedos
05 December 2013 21:57:11


The tide was exceptionally low here about 5pm, an hour before low tide, as is the nature of spring tides. It gives you a false sense of security because it starts coming in like a train, I have just been standing as close as is safe and it is remarkable. The fishermen at sizewell have been frantically clearing their boats from the ground they had moved them to earlier on today, to even higher ground. High tide here will be about quarter past midnight, it's going to be a long 2 or 3 hours.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


That's an indication of what will happen further a long the coast I reckon.


 


Originally Posted by: eastcoaster 

 Exactly what I said earlier


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/yaf_postsm556729_Possible-East-Coast-Flooding-Thurs-PM-Fri-morn.aspx#post556729


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idj20
05 December 2013 22:03:30

Just been down there again, and indeed, the sea water flowed in from the mouth of the harbour and into the inner harbour in five minutes flat - something that normally takes two to three hours. But because the weather is so calm and clear, it was a gentle flow at walking pace and it's all smooth, like a bath being filled up. But it was too dark to take any interesting video footages.
  I suspect once it'll hit the brim later on tonight, it'll be gently lapping over the edge and onto the road rather like a bath being overfilled instead of giant waves crashing over in storm force winds.


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05 December 2013 22:06:25

I've been tracking the flooding as part of my job and I didn't realise quite how bad the situation was along the coast. Middlesborough was under water at one point as well as Whitby and Scarborough.


This is a situaton that will get worse as it goes down the coast. Keep the reports coming in.


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nsrobins
05 December 2013 22:07:05

We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?


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Matty H
05 December 2013 22:08:21

We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



Just made this exact point in a text to someone.
llamedos
05 December 2013 22:15:58


We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

With today's technology it's possible to cover both "events" simultaneously isn't it.


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Gooner
05 December 2013 22:17:37


We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Does seem a bit odd, a tough call though do you lead with the death of a truely great man or the threat to lives in the UK???


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nsrobins
05 December 2013 22:19:16

Well I feel a bit guilty getting annoyed about it because of Mandela's legacy, but surely there are thousands of people along and near the east coast who woud much rather be informed about the risk of severe flooding tonight and leave the obituaries until tommorow.
Blanket coverage on all news stations about Mandela now for 25 minutes.
I assume the flooding is still ongoing?


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Matty H
05 December 2013 22:20:31

Well I feel a bit guilty getting annoyed about it because of Mandela's legacy, but surely there are thousands of people along and near the east coast who woud much rather be informed about the risk of severe flooding tonight and leave the obituaries until tommorow.
Blanket coverage on all news stations about Mandela now for 25 minutes.
I assume the flooding is still ongoing?

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



I have to agree, and that's no slight on an incredible human being.
NickR
05 December 2013 22:20:32



We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Does seem a bit odd, a tough call though do you lead with the death of a truely great man or the threat to lives in the UK???


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Would lives be saved by continuous coverage? If they don't know to get out by now, then I'd've thought it was too late. Seems to me that it's more a case of gawping at this stage. Much more important to go with Mandela.


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llamedos
05 December 2013 22:20:49

No disrespect to the very sad news of Nelson Mandella's death, but this isn't the thread to discuss how the media place their focus please. 


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nsrobins
05 December 2013 22:26:41




We have a very strange situation on the media now with the announcement that Nelson Mandela has died. All news channels covering this now just as a major sitution continues to unfold along the east coast.
What is more important? A debate best left for another day?


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Does seem a bit odd, a tough call though do you lead with the death of a truely great man or the threat to lives in the UK???


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Would lives be saved by continuous coverage? If they don't know to get out by now, then I'd've thought it was too late. Seems to me that it's more a case of gawping at this stage. Much more important to go with Mandela.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Why? He's been in a coma and virtually deceased for months. The mourning and opinion can wait a day surely?


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llamedos
05 December 2013 22:29:02

I've requested very politely to keep this on topic and the topic has nothing to do with the death of Nelson Mandella.


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