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Chiltern Blizzard
02 January 2014 21:24:30



http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


tbh gooner there are only really 13 usable days of January left, because there is no way we are going to get colder weather before then. And if the heathen does arrive mid january that would chew up alot of the remaining days!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 



Although I wouldn't put money on wintry weather developing before 18th, I think you place too much faith in model output for 2 weeks from now - far stranger things have happenned in the world or weather.

Andrew
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Quantum
02 January 2014 21:25:17




http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Marcus, that's a chart for the 12th if I am not mistaken. We know it's going to be unsettled until at least 10th, and if that pattern took hold...... Well need I say more? LOL

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


You clearly know more than Peter Gibbs who has just been on N24 saying " there are signs of more settled weather by mid month".....................well need I say more LOL


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Well this is a MO discussion, the only settled weather that is showing up is the bad sort.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
JACKO4EVER
02 January 2014 21:26:21



http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Marcus, that's a chart for the 12th if I am not mistaken. We know it's going to be unsettled until at least 10th, and if that pattern took hold...... Well need I say more? LOL

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


You clearly know more than Peter Gibbs who has just been on N24 saying " there are signs of more settled weather by mid month".....................well need I say more LOL

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Hope so pal- I have just got off the phone to Peter after ordering a large pressure rise to the south that would hopefully give another dry and mild spell like beginning of December! Well we can wish eh?

Quantum
02 January 2014 21:29:58




http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


tbh gooner there are only really 13 usable days of January left, because there is no way we are going to get colder weather before then. And if the heathen does arrive mid january that would chew up alot of the remaining days!


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 



Although I wouldn't put money on wintry weather developing before 18th, I think you place too much faith in model output for 2 weeks from now - far stranger things have happenned in the world or weather.

Andrew

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It seems unusually consistent to me.


EPS: Dire


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/EDH101-240.GIF?02-0


GEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png?12


GEMS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/gem/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png


NAEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/naefs/run/naefsnh-0-0-240.png?12


NOGAPSS: Dire


http://176.31.229.228/modeles/gens/nogaps/run/gens-21-1-240.png


 


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
02 January 2014 21:30:35





http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Marcus, that's a chart for the 12th if I am not mistaken. We know it's going to be unsettled until at least 10th, and if that pattern took hold...... Well need I say more? LOL

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


You clearly know more than Peter Gibbs who has just been on N24 saying " there are signs of more settled weather by mid month".....................well need I say more LOL


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Well this is a MO discussion, the only settled weather that is showing up is the bad sort.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Then a disussion about the whole of Jan should be binned


But at the moment you are correct ............ up to the 17th it is unsettled and then we haave an HP over us


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014010212/gfs-0-384.png?12


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
02 January 2014 21:32:55






http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Marcus, that's a chart for the 12th if I am not mistaken. We know it's going to be unsettled until at least 10th, and if that pattern took hold...... Well need I say more? LOL

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


You clearly know more than Peter Gibbs who has just been on N24 saying " there are signs of more settled weather by mid month".....................well need I say more LOL


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Well this is a MO discussion, the only settled weather that is showing up is the bad sort.


 


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Then a disussion about the whole of Jan should be binned


But at the moment you are correct ............ up to the 17th it is unsettled and then we haave an HP over us


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014010212/gfs-0-384.png?12


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I know the long range models get alot of flak, but the CFS doomsday scenario seems to be playing out pretty well atm. Also that 2 week NAEFS mean is unusually prescise with a very small spread of temps over the UK. Same for the GEFS. I would say there is a possibility we might go to settled weather by mid january, but everything points to azors build; which could turn out to be even milder. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
David M Porter
02 January 2014 21:45:07







http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Marcus, that's a chart for the 12th if I am not mistaken. We know it's going to be unsettled until at least 10th, and if that pattern took hold...... Well need I say more? LOL

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


You clearly know more than Peter Gibbs who has just been on N24 saying " there are signs of more settled weather by mid month".....................well need I say more LOL


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Well this is a MO discussion, the only settled weather that is showing up is the bad sort.


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Then a disussion about the whole of Jan should be binned


But at the moment you are correct ............ up to the 17th it is unsettled and then we haave an HP over us


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014010212/gfs-0-384.png?12


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


I know the long range models get alot of flak, but the CFS doomsday scenario seems to be playing out pretty well atm. Also that 2 week NAEFS mean is unusually prescise with a very small spread of temps over the UK. Same for the GEFS. I would say there is a possibility we might go to settled weather by mid january, but everything points to azors build; which could turn out to be even milder. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I may be wrong here, but didn't the Azores High play at least a small part in ending the zonal rut we found ourselves in at the end of 2012 & start of 2013 and then help to set us up for the colder spell that came later? I recall that it did turn drier where I live from about the 8th of January last year, and gradually colder as time went on.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Saint Snow
02 January 2014 21:48:34

which could turn out to be even milder. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 




Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Arcus
02 January 2014 21:53:16
Crikey, didn't think we'd get the Tena Lady attitude again so soon. Hope nobody is on their work laptop.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gooner
02 January 2014 21:54:12


which could turn out to be even milder. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Then at the moment that is in disagreement with the text updates from the Met...............interesting


UK Outlook for Friday 17 Jan 2014 to Friday 31 Jan 2014:


Current indications point towards unsettled conditions persisting through mid-January. Some signals are emerging suggesting that the weather may undergo a change later this month allowing colder conditions to then become increasingly likely. This would increase the risk of some wintry conditions developing during the second half of January. A change to a colder weather type would also increase the potential for more settled conditions leaving a lower risk of wet and windy spells than has recently been the case.


Issued at: 1600 on Thu 2 Jan 2014


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
02 January 2014 22:10:02



which could turn out to be even milder. 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Then at the moment that is in disagreement with the text updates from the Met...............interesting


UK Outlook for Friday 17 Jan 2014 to Friday 31 Jan 2014:


Current indications point towards unsettled conditions persisting through mid-January. Some signals are emerging suggesting that the weather may undergo a change later this month allowing colder conditions to then become increasingly likely. This would increase the risk of some wintry conditions developing during the second half of January. A change to a colder weather type would also increase the potential for more settled conditions leaving a lower risk of wet and windy spells than has recently been the case.


Issued at: 1600 on Thu 2 Jan 2014


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


My point about it being an MO discussion rather than media. The fact the metoffice are refering to settled and cold weather rather than unsetteld and cold perhaps indicates euro style faux cold blocking, UK blocking or even northern blocking if you read between the lines. But I really can't see it, myself on the models; I would guess that some of the more exclusive ones are showing something rather different to the 'plebs'. But who knows, we don't have acsess to these VIP models like the full ECM, MOGREPS, full UKMO e.c.t.; I can only comment on what I have. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Chiltern Blizzard
02 January 2014 22:14:00




http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


tbh gooner there are only really 13 usable days of January left, because there is no way we are going to get colder weather before then. And if the heathen does arrive mid january that would chew up alot of the remaining days!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Although I wouldn't put money on wintry weather developing before 18th, I think you place too much faith in model output for 2 weeks from now - far stranger things have happenned in the world or weather.

Andrew

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


It seems unusually consistent to me.


EPS: Dire


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/EDH101-240.GIF?02-0


GEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png?12


GEMS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/gem/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png


NAEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/naefs/run/naefsnh-0-0-240.png?12


NOGAPSS: Dire


http://176.31.229.228/modeles/gens/nogaps/run/gens-21-1-240.png


 


 

Originally Posted by: Quantum 



I agree that models are showing pretty good consistency at the 10 day range, but firstly, consistency can evaporate over a short period, and secondly, you were referring to 16 days out where the consistency is less and patterns can change completely from one run to another.

Andrew
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Quantum
02 January 2014 22:20:36





http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/ECH1-240.GIF?02-0


That thing moving towards spain, its... its.....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s


 


Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 


Wow that would nail January!
It's not out of the question, as some have said earlier in the thread. A pressure rise to the South could well be plausible, and we could all start having to watch the ensembles for Berne LOL !!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Jacko there are 29 days left this month


Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 


tbh gooner there are only really 13 usable days of January left, because there is no way we are going to get colder weather before then. And if the heathen does arrive mid january that would chew up alot of the remaining days!


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



Although I wouldn't put money on wintry weather developing before 18th, I think you place too much faith in model output for 2 weeks from now - far stranger things have happenned in the world or weather.

Andrew

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


It seems unusually consistent to me.


EPS: Dire


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014010212/EDH101-240.GIF?02-0


GEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png?12


GEMS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/gem/run/gensnh-0-1-240.png


NAEFS: Dire


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/naefs/run/naefsnh-0-0-240.png?12


NOGAPSS: Dire


http://176.31.229.228/modeles/gens/nogaps/run/gens-21-1-240.png


 


 


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 



I agree that models are showing pretty good consistency at the 10 day range, but firstly, consistency can evaporate over a short period, and secondly, you were referring to 16 days out where the consistency is less and patterns can change completely from one run to another.

Andrew

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The consistancy is still high at 16 day, I chose 10 day because that was the maximun range of some of the ensembles. Only GEFS and NAEFS go to 16 days; both of which are showing either rpm or tm airmasses. Run to run consistency has also been excellent. One thing that I particulary find stagering is how high the absolute value of the anomolies are at day 16. Usually you would see very pale colours and an almost homogenous environment by day 16 on the NAEFES, however there are still +-20hpa anomolies quite widely in NH which implies higher confidence than usual. The EPS have lower confidence and a greater spread admitadely although its worth noting the NAEFS takes the ECM into account. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Phil G
02 January 2014 22:24:17
Phil G
02 January 2014 22:26:47
Temps lower than of late generally
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn16217.png 
Quantum
02 January 2014 22:31:13

Unbelievably the NAVGEM and GFS are still fighting to the death over the temp of the stratosphere, with less than 100 hours to go now one model is going to end up very red faced....


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Phil G
02 January 2014 22:34:09
Atlantic being held back earlier on this run
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1861.png 
Quantum
02 January 2014 22:35:25

That arctic high really is becoming a semi perminant feature and is even offering some rather pathetic resistance. I'd say if it wasn't for that deep cold over canada we would have already had a week or so of northern blocking and face more to come. If the high can become more of an upper level feature and maintain itself (this will be really helped by any strat warming effects) then we could be looking at a very respectable cold spell at the end of the month or february. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
SEMerc
02 January 2014 22:39:22

At least the FFS is showing some semblance of a battleground, although the Atlantic (if less angry) wins out in the end.

Phil G
02 January 2014 22:41:18
Looks really messy and anything up for grabs
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png 
nsrobins
02 January 2014 22:41:53

Well the GFS pub run is in serious of being rather interesting . . . .


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Whether Idle
02 January 2014 22:42:52


That arctic high really is becoming a semi perminant feature and is even offering some rather pathetic resistance. I'd say if it wasn't for that deep cold over canada we would have already had a week or so of northern blocking and face more to come. If the high can become more of an upper level feature and maintain itself (this will be really helped by any strat warming effects) then we could be looking at a very respectable cold spell at the end of the month or february. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Using the if word any sceanrio is possible.


As it happens the 18z is an object lesson in how feeble attempts at northern blocking are readily obliterated by a rampant jet.


See how this:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=192&mode=0


 


soon becomes this:


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=228&mode=0


then this:


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=312&mode=0


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Quantum
02 January 2014 22:43:40


Well the GFS pub run is in serious of being rather interesting . . . .


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


This really has taken the wind out of my sails. We have WAA coming into canada, a monster siberian high and rather dramatic cyclosis in the atlantic. I'm betting an outlier. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Whether Idle
02 January 2014 22:47:09



Well the GFS pub run is in serious of being rather interesting . . . .


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


This really has taken the wind out of my sails. We have WAA coming into canada, a monster siberian high and rather dramatic cyclosis in the atlantic. I'm betting an outlier. 


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Looks Zonal for the UK


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Quantum
02 January 2014 22:49:49




Well the GFS pub run is in serious of being rather interesting . . . .


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


This really has taken the wind out of my sails. We have WAA coming into canada, a monster siberian high and rather dramatic cyclosis in the atlantic. I'm betting an outlier. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Looks Zonal for the UK


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Its transitioning between zonal and blocked. The overall NH pattern is very good. I can't quite believe this run though, given it is a polar opposite to every run preceeding it. Most likely scenario imo is that this run is drunk and tommorow morning it will be back to buisness as usual. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
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