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Quantum
15 January 2014 18:50:15

In terms of the general pattern today's ECM is actually a pretty good chart. By 192h, I can see several methods to get us into blocked conditions. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
15 January 2014 18:50:39


I'll take this. Darren often says it takes a few goes to get an easterly!


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-192.GIF?15-0


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Is this attempt number 8?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


The Beast from the East
15 January 2014 18:50:40

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
15 January 2014 18:52:13


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


That great big LP across the water looks ominous


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


The Beast from the East
15 January 2014 18:53:22


 


Is this attempt number 8?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


It'll make it eventually..........


.... in March


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Whether Idle
15 January 2014 18:53:35


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Jam tomorrow, Groundhog Day, More runs needed, etcetera etcetera etcetera.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Quantum
15 January 2014 18:54:00

216h is like a lemsip, cures the symptons but not the problem. Not the best evolution ever from 192h. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
The Beast from the East
15 January 2014 18:55:18


 


That great big LP across the water looks ominous


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


yes, but hopefully will be different come the day


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.gif


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Phil G
15 January 2014 18:59:03
Azores HP looks like it wants to ridge northwards and join with the high to the NE
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif 
SEMerc
15 January 2014 19:00:05


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Phil G
15 January 2014 19:07:25
Charts don't really change much from 120h. Sort of left in a coll in the middle between weather systems.
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1202.gif 

HP to the NE looks huge at the end of the run.
NDJF
15 January 2014 19:07:55





  1. Not without interest? 

     
     
     
                  5h       

    I've looked & analysed. Can't be certain, as usual, but a Sudden Strat Warming event seems likely early Feb. Cold potential early-mid Feb...





cowman
15 January 2014 19:15:26
😂


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



😂 😂 😂
Gooner
15 January 2014 19:52:31







  1. Not without interest? 

     
     
     
                  5h       

    I've looked & analysed. Can't be certain, as usual, but a Sudden Strat Warming event seems likely early Feb. Cold potential early-mid Feb...






Originally Posted by: NDJF 


Don't hold your breath


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
15 January 2014 19:59:56



http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014011512/ECH1-216.GIF?15-0


Needs work but we have another shot


 


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


GIBBY
15 January 2014 20:31:48

Good evening. Here is tonight's look at the 12 midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday January 15th 2014.


All models show Low pressure in control of the weather over the UK from now until the end of the weekend as it's position moves in close to the United Kingdom reinforced by secondary features moving within it's circulation at times. After today's mildness and drizzly rain the weather will turn a little cooler and more showery with the concentration of showers close to the windward exposures of the South and West of Britain with some lengthy drier and brighter spells at times in the NE. By Saturday a new area of Low pressure moving North over the UK could give some more significant rainfall and flooding issues in places before a return to more showery weather looks likely over Sunday.


GFS shows next week with the trend towards windier conditions developing later in the week with further showers and outbreaks of rain as Low pressure moves ESE across the far North and sends troughs quickly East across the UK with temperatures remaining very close to average.


The GFS Ensembles shows no change in the overall pattern with just a short relaxation in precipitation amounts early next week. Temperatures remain very respectable given the time of year but with little respite for those flood stricken areas looking likely.


UKMO tonight shows yet another Low pressure area moving ESE into Northern Ireland with fresh Westerly winds to the South bringing rain and showers across the UK yet again next Tuesday with the real prospect shown by the Day 6 chart of another quite wet and windy week being likely throughout next week too.


GEM shows Low pressure sinking slowly SE across the UK next week, filling slowly but taking until the very end of the run to bring any significant improvements to the wet and windy period for much of next week as a weak High pressure ridge topples down over the UK by next weekend.


NAVGEM also shows UK based Low pressure into the middle of next week with further rain and showers for all in average temperatures.


ECM is very changeable again tonight with Low pressure areas continuing to dominate conditions over the UK as they trundle down from the WNW over Northern Britain. A few drier intervals are shown on the exit of next weeks depression but the pattern shown suggests that any improvements late in the run look very short-lived.


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Chart shows the most likely scenario in 9 or 10 days time with the UK biased towards an increasingly mobile Westerly flow between a classic UK winter pattern of High pressure over the Azores and Low pressure near Iceland.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif 


The Jet Stream is shown to continue crossing the Atlantic before turning South to North Africa then turning East over Europe. This general theme will continue into next week before the flow crosses the Atlantic and the UK before moving on through Europe later next week. This will probably serve to encourage more mobility of Low pressure systems and fronts through Britain rather than stalling them over us.


In Summary tonight at the risk of sounding like a broken record things remain very unsettled with rain or showers at times over the UK. Winds will become rather more blustery as we move through next week from a Westerly point so once more not desperately cold. There seems little evidence of yet of any major influence of the Azores High drying things out anytime soon or for that matter any push from the East so for the time being it's more of the same I'm afraid with rain at times continuing to be the biggest feature of the upcoming period.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Hungry Tiger
15 January 2014 21:03:22


Good evening. Here is tonight's look at the 12 midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday January 15th 2014.


All models show Low pressure in control of the weather over the UK from now until the end of the weekend as it's position moves in close to the United Kingdom reinforced by secondary features moving within it's circulation at times. After today's mildness and drizzly rain the weather will turn a little cooler and more showery with the concentration of showers close to the windward exposures of the South and West of Britain with some lengthy drier and brighter spells at times in the NE. By Saturday a new area of Low pressure moving North over the UK could give some more significant rainfall and flooding issues in places before a return to more showery weather looks likely over Sunday.


GFS shows next week with the trend towards windier conditions developing later in the week with further showers and outbreaks of rain as Low pressure moves ESE across the far North and sends troughs quickly East across the UK with temperatures remaining very close to average.


The GFS Ensembles shows no change in the overall pattern with just a short relaxation in precipitation amounts early next week. Temperatures remain very respectable given the time of year but with little respite for those flood stricken areas looking likely.


UKMO tonight shows yet another Low pressure area moving ESE into Northern Ireland with fresh Westerly winds to the South bringing rain and showers across the UK yet again next Tuesday with the real prospect shown by the Day 6 chart of another quite wet and windy week being likely throughout next week too.


GEM shows Low pressure sinking slowly SE across the UK next week, filling slowly but taking until the very end of the run to bring any significant improvements to the wet and windy period for much of next week as a weak High pressure ridge topples down over the UK by next weekend.


NAVGEM also shows UK based Low pressure into the middle of next week with further rain and showers for all in average temperatures.


ECM is very changeable again tonight with Low pressure areas continuing to dominate conditions over the UK as they trundle down from the WNW over Northern Britain. A few drier intervals are shown on the exit of next weeks depression but the pattern shown suggests that any improvements late in the run look very short-lived.


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Chart shows the most likely scenario in 9 or 10 days time with the UK biased towards an increasingly mobile Westerly flow between a classic UK winter pattern of High pressure over the Azores and Low pressure near Iceland.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif 


The Jet Stream is shown to continue crossing the Atlantic before turning South to North Africa then turning East over Europe. This general theme will continue into next week before the flow crosses the Atlantic and the UK before moving on through Europe later next week. This will probably serve to encourage more mobility of Low pressure systems and fronts through Britain rather than stalling them over us.


In Summary tonight at the risk of sounding like a broken record things remain very unsettled with rain or showers at times over the UK. Winds will become rather more blustery as we move through next week from a Westerly point so once more not desperately cold. There seems little evidence of yet of any major influence of the Azores High drying things out anytime soon or for that matter any push from the East so for the time being it's more of the same I'm afraid with rain at times continuing to be the biggest feature of the upcoming period.


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Phew -


So the winter goes on in its usual way.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Gooner
15 January 2014 21:57:20

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014011518/gfsnh-0-90.png?18


edges a tad closer to the UK


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
15 January 2014 22:08:22

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014011518/gfsnh-0-120.png?18


HP much closer at 120


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Karl Guille
15 January 2014 22:18:13
So very near on this run and very little more required to establish an easterly flow of sorts. Not sure what would become of things thereafter but fascinating model watching nonetheless.
St. Sampson
Guernsey
Gooner
15 January 2014 22:19:48

So very near on this run and very little more required to establish an easterly flow of sorts. Not sure what would become of things thereafter but fascinating model watching nonetheless.

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


indeed, less of a push from the NW on this run


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
15 January 2014 22:26:27

Lol you couldn't make it up. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pK3d2Pk0Zk


And I notice the lows to the west of greeland are pretty weak on the 18Z, with HP over greenland and a southerly jet stream we may just need to be patient. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
15 January 2014 22:29:58


Lol you couldn't make it up. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pK3d2Pk0Zk


And I notice the lows to the west of greeland are pretty weak on the 18Z, with HP over greenland and a southerly jet stream we may just need to be patient. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


A better run for sure


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Karl Guille
15 January 2014 22:35:30

So very near on this run and very little more required to establish an easterly flow of sorts. Not sure what would become of things thereafter but fascinating model watching nonetheless.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


indeed, less of a push from the NW on this run

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 



Would expect to see more runs of a similar nature on the ensembles than we did on the 12z.


St. Sampson
Guernsey
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15 January 2014 22:38:31

So very near on this run and very little more required to establish an easterly flow of sorts. Not sure what would become of things thereafter but fascinating model watching nonetheless.

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


Karl, it's that time of year again when we're both looking for a bit of birthday snow.    Though the current runs aren't looking too promising but fingers crossed.


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