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Matty H
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26 January 2014 12:56:24
Usual rules.
Gooner
26 January 2014 13:41:21

Interesting how some models keep showing a AH and then dropping the idea?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
26 January 2014 13:47:18

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-216.png?6


you wouldn't think it looking at it but the above was one of the milder options


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
26 January 2014 13:53:33

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/runs/2014012600/gemnh-0-216.png?00


Look how close GEM is to the GFS control ...................................straw


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
26 January 2014 14:25:47


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/runs/2014012600/gemnh-0-216.png?00


Look how close GEM is to the GFS control ...................................straw


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Interesting.


So many options on the table, pretty bamboozling and we need to get the scenario sorted for Friday firstly. 


A critical period for this winter coming up, can it deliver some cold goods?


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Gavin P
26 January 2014 14:26:00

Hi all,


Here's today's second video update;


Sudden Stratospheric Warming In February?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Note the question mark.


Lot's of other stuff included too + Chance of some wintry showers tonight.


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
Matty H
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26 January 2014 14:53:26
Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell


Karl Guille
26 January 2014 15:16:13

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-216.png?6 
you wouldn't think it looking at it but the above was one of the milder options
http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png 

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I'd noticed that too but with a pure continental feed I think that I can recall 2m temps circa +2C IMBY with positive 850hPA temps! There is just a little more optimism in the air today and TBH I don't think any of the models know whatbisngoing to happen beyond T120.

St. Sampson
Guernsey
The Beast from the East
26 January 2014 15:16:39

Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Winter is Over!


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
26 January 2014 15:25:33


Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Winter is Over!


 



did it start?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Sevendust
26 January 2014 15:43:53



Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


Winter is Over!


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


did it start?



tonight

Quantum
26 January 2014 15:50:59

NASA GEOS time!


0Z has run, and it looks to be in camp 2 along with UKMO, NAVGEM and GEM. So its looking like a case of minors vs majors


NASA GEOS also turns particularly cold in terms of uppers too


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/geos/runs/2014012600/geos-1-120.png?26-12


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
The Beast from the East
26 January 2014 15:56:47

No change so far on GFS


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gavin P
26 January 2014 16:00:00

Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


ECM and GFS certainly hinting at very mild and very wet spell sometime around 5th February!


 


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
Matty H
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26 January 2014 16:00:40

Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


ECM and GFS certainly hinting at very mild and very wet spell sometime around 5th February!UserPostedImage



That'll make a nice change 😂
Gavin P
26 January 2014 16:02:38

Has been a horrendous winter to be fair - We'll all be spouting webbed feet before long.


 


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
Gooner
26 January 2014 16:07:21

Fergusson:

@fergieweather: W COUNTRY Once colder snap ends (in circa 6-7 days), @metoffice expect rtn to unsettled W/SW flow into foreseeable & no prolonged dry spell

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

ECM and GFS certainly hinting at very mild and very wet spell sometime around 5th February!UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

That'll make a nice change 😂


Of course it was at the mild end of the runs, a bit of support but at the mild end


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
26 January 2014 16:09:54

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=96&carte=1021


Hmmm, UKMO goes slack at 96 with AH nudging in...


Cold in the NE though


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=96&carte=1007


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Quantum
26 January 2014 16:11:26

I find your lack of faith in the NAVGEM disturbing.


 


Anyway GFS 12Z seems to be putting up more resistance than the 6Z. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Whether Idle
26 January 2014 16:13:34


I find your lack of faith in the NAVGEM disturbing.


 


Anyway GFS 12Z seems to be putting up more resistance than the 6Z. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


GFS has Angle of attack all wrong for many - SSW winds no good


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?ech=114&code=0&mode=0


 


Looks okay for Pennines north above 300m for snow.


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Quantum
26 January 2014 16:17:17



I find your lack of faith in the NAVGEM disturbing.


 


Anyway GFS 12Z seems to be putting up more resistance than the 6Z. 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


GFS has Angle of attack all wrong for many - SSW winds no good


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?ech=114&code=0&mode=0


 


Looks okay for Pennines north above 300m for snow.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Usually I would agree, but there is absolutely no warm sector there at all, we have the continental polar and polar maritime airmasses mixing together resulting in a really messy picture across the UK. However, I think snow will locally get down to lower levels on that, it is just about cold enough. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
26 January 2014 16:17:28

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1201.png


LP further South , could help later?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
26 January 2014 16:18:50

Gah UKMO has backed off though, 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Phil G
26 January 2014 16:19:45

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1201.png 
LP further South , could help later?

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Was going to add that Marcus and that low being modelled further south last couple of runs.

Whether Idle
26 January 2014 16:20:40

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?nh=0&ech=120&carte=1021


UKMO capitulates at 120 - lets in the milder Atlantic air, the 0z told are far more blocked story.  Looks like the story of the winter continues - the Mighty Atlantic Battering Ram bashes down every barrier placed before it.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
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