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Gooner
01 February 2014 16:02:59


Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


It is a decent warming Q, are we sure a block occurs where the warming is? I am sure JH said last year that there i uncertainty as to the whereabouts a block would take up residence??


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
01 February 2014 16:07:03

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-96.png?12


Bleak, deep LP crossing the UK


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
01 February 2014 16:12:20


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-96.png?12


Bleak, deep LP crossing the UK


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


My goodness - 960 or lower.


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LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
01 February 2014 16:26:49
hmm.

GFS 12z run.

It is showing areas of PV Jetstream flows and Low Pressure located in W N and Central N Atlantic and areas of Iceland and Svalbard, WSW Norwegian Sea and Over the UK, Cold pulses and Plunge in NW Cent. N Atlantic, UK spells of Windy and rainy as well as showers scattered about, with brief transient ridges as relief, UK near average day remps and nights moderately above normal CET Average.

Not one for wanting a change to wintry weather, but instead more rain and heavy showers all the same stuff really, this is really not that much stunner or any great celebration for those saying they got a few rare snowfalls up NW and North in the UK, they up in the hills inc. Wales as well are to get cold enough to see some of that, for those good on you.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Gooner
01 February 2014 16:28:51

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-138.png?12


another LP , this time spins through the Channel ,


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-168.png?12


and another into the NW


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
01 February 2014 16:30:50

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1441.png


Blimey


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1443.png


Cold air tucking in behind it, snow on the back edge?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1444.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn14417.png


cold


 


 


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
01 February 2014 16:38:21

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/01/basis12/ukuk/rart/14020712_2_0112.gif


JFF


Back edge snow on Friday as the front races through


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Quantum
01 February 2014 16:44:47


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/01/basis12/ukuk/rart/14020712_2_0112.gif


JFF


Back edge snow on Friday as the front races through


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


There will always be a risk of snow as long as we stay in the rmP airmass. Characturisticly N ireland and W scotland are the most likely places to see snow to lower levels; however as long as we are in this airmass, whenever a light easterly wind appears (on the top of a secondary low) snow is always possible to lower levels. 


The caveat of course is, an rmP airmass will never produce anything other than transient snow for lower ground. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
01 February 2014 16:51:57

Warming even more vigorous at 10hpa on this run. Also there appears to be an 'aftershock' which has less significant warming but never gives the polar vortext (at that level) a chance to recover.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-10-384.png?12


With easterly winds at 10hpa projected to last for so long, even if the original SSW doesn't propagate down into the trop, surely there is plenty of opportunity for easterly winds to come down later. 


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
01 February 2014 16:53:43
And More on GFS 12z and the UKMO t120 and t144hrs.

Well it appears Dominated mostly by Heavy Showers west WS flow and West North UK Low, Whole of North Atlantic see Low pressure both East NE and North and in The West of the NW, further areas of them low pressure cross the UK, after a brief lull Friday at 144hrs from 01 Feb. 2014, that heavy rain then Showers and more rain two areas of UK cross PV Low via West NW Atlantic through E N Atlantic and the UK, this is not good news for us, as more wet and Windy with High tides and high speed winds are forecast to 240h by the GFS, and T144 UKMO for Saturday is also heavy rain and Strong winds.

Near average day temperatures but some wedges of milder 8 to 9 deg. C is also possible with SW winds.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Charmhills
01 February 2014 17:02:13

Very unsettled 12z so far though the GFS hints at things drying up in the south for a short time before the rains returns.


The Met/o 12z doesn't make much of that system for late Thursday early Friday.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif



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some faraway beach
01 February 2014 17:18:24



http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-96.png?12


Bleak, deep LP crossing the UK


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


My goodness - 960 or lower.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


955


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=90&mode=0


Quite chilly too, with those pinks and purples.


2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
01 February 2014 17:31:51




http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020112/gfsnh-0-96.png?12


Bleak, deep LP crossing the UK


 


Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


My goodness - 960 or lower.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


955


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=90&mode=0


Quite chilly too, with those pinks and purples.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


951mb at 6z Wednesday. Tuesday night looks wild


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2014020112/81-515UK.GIF?01-12


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2014020112/90-515UK.GIF?01-12


6z Friday - 980mb Channel Low with a risk of a snow / rain mix


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2014020112/138-515UK.GIF?01-12


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2014020112/144-779UK.GIF?01-12


954mb 6z Saturday


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2014020112/162-515UK.GIF?01-12

The Beast from the East
01 February 2014 18:39:01

core of the vortex moves over us next weekend. quite chilly as well


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014020112/ECH1-168.GIF?01-0


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David M Porter
01 February 2014 19:20:46


Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
nsrobins
01 February 2014 19:23:57



Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Indeed. Q I admire your interest in SWW, etc, but the science is in it's infancy and the correlation between strat temp and surface synoptics is tenuous at best IMO.

As David says we have real weather to contend with in the here and now, and it's not very pretty.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
nsrobins
01 February 2014 19:27:22

http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_display.php?ext=1&x=306&y=141&ville=Londres


Pah


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Jive Buddy
01 February 2014 19:33:02

SSW? Pah! Bring back "Soil Moisture Deficits" - that was the in phrase back in the day (anyone remember that being done to death on here at the turn of the millenium? )


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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David M Porter
01 February 2014 19:41:37




Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Indeed. Q I admire your interest in SWW, etc, but the science is in it's infancy and the correlation between strat temp and surface synoptics is tenuous at best IMO.

As David says we have real weather to contend with in the here and now, and it's not very pretty.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Indeed Neil. Even if there is a change to something colder, and hopefully much drier, later in February, it'll be too late to salvage this total wreck of a winter.


We really do need a drier spell though, be it of the mild or cold type, and soon, so in a sense I am hoping that the SSW that Quantum speaks of does ultimately do something to derail the atlantic train. It can't go on like this for a great many more weeks, surely!


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
JACKO4EVER
01 February 2014 20:05:01




Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed. Q I admire your interest in SWW, etc, but the science is in it's infancy and the correlation between strat temp and surface synoptics is tenuous at best IMO.

As David says we have real weather to contend with in the here and now, and it's not very pretty.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Indeed Neil. Even if there is a change to something colder, and hopefully much drier, later in February, it'll be too late to salvage this total wreck of a winter.


We really do need a drier spell though, be it of the mild or cold type, and soon, so in a sense I am hoping that the SSW that Quantum speaks of does ultimately do something to derail the atlantic train. It can't go on like this for a great many more weeks, surely!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Sadly this can go on for many more weeks David, it's seems a very stable pattern at the moment. The switch has been flicked to reset, I would suggest this will certainly still be raging in 10 days time. With a renewed winter storm in The States, cyclogenesis will be as prevelent as ever in the North Atlantic. Forget SSW, nothing at present seems likely to shake us out of this rut. With a portion of the vortex looking as though it could pay us a visit, it could actually get a whole lot worse!
GIBBY
01 February 2014 20:41:44

Good evening everyone. Here is the evening report on the midday outputs from the NWP for today Saturday February 1st 2014 and taken from http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


All models show a continuation of the very unsettled period, lasting throughout next week with Monday and Wednesday the main days of concern as active troughs linked to Atlantic depressions bring copious rainfall once more to those areas that least need it. Wednesday provides the additional risk of severe gales. In between the main rain bands there will be Westerly winds and showers. Temperatures will recover to average values by the end of next week.


GFS shows the weather remaining unsettled through the remainder of the run with further rain and blustery winds and just short drier and more showery spells in between. Temperatures will remain close to average in the North while the South becomes somewhat milder.


The GFS Ensembles show little change tonight with further large amounts of wind and rain populating the UK through the next week or two. Winds look like staying strong too at times with a Westerly element throughout. Temperatures look likely that they will be on the rise somewhat as time passes.


UKMO is maintaining it's stance of WSW winds later next week with troughs crossing East at times with rain at times in average temperatures.


GEM shows a very windy end to next week and weekend with further bands of showers and rain transferring East over the UK in average temperatures on regular occasions.


NAVGEM shows a series of depressions running East over the UK later next week and the weekend with spells of rain and showers passing over at times in average temperatures.


ECM is a little less dramatic tonight thankfully though nonetheless still shows a lot of powerful depressions delivering copious rain amounts before we get to a windy and milder period late in the run as warm winds are sucked up from the SW with a continued feed of rain and drizzle especially near Southern and western coasts and hills.


The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts are not that supportive of it's operational at Days 9 and 10 as it maintains the approach it has shown for the last few days of a bias from it's members of Low pressure likely to be to the North and NW with a SW flow maintained over the UK in pressure likely to be quite low at 1005mbs to 990mbs South to North, very adequate to support fairly appreciable amounts of rain from fronts travelling NE across the UK in average temperatures at worst.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif
 
The Jet Stream shows the West to East flow to the South of the UK maintained over the period drifting slowly North later in the run.


In Summary tonight the pattern remains very volatile throughout the reliable period of the output tonight. There will be regular occurrences of wind and rain on most days with the winds very strong at times as well as the rain. There is a slight lifting of the gloom at the very end of the ECM operational tonight with a strong shift North of the Jet Flow carrying the depressions further North too. Whether this becomes a trend or just a glitch will be borne out in subsequent runs but the one positive would be temperatures look like rising somewhat, especially in the South later.


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Quantum
01 February 2014 21:04:57





Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed. Q I admire your interest in SWW, etc, but the science is in it's infancy and the correlation between strat temp and surface synoptics is tenuous at best IMO.

As David says we have real weather to contend with in the here and now, and it's not very pretty.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Indeed Neil. Even if there is a change to something colder, and hopefully much drier, later in February, it'll be too late to salvage this total wreck of a winter.


We really do need a drier spell though, be it of the mild or cold type, and soon, so in a sense I am hoping that the SSW that Quantum speaks of does ultimately do something to derail the atlantic train. It can't go on like this for a great many more weeks, surely!


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Its something I am continuing to watch closley. Sometimes the strat warming 'misses' the mid levels and goes straight to the lower levels, and that is something that is perhaps coming off on the ECMWF with a somewhat more favourible surface pattern on the ECM240 but an awful 500 pattern. I've looked at a few research papers, and it seems from cursory looks that the time lag is roughly between 1 and 3 weeks. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
01 February 2014 21:08:55





Major strat warming event almost guaranteed now. Meaning we should see the effects sometime after the 18th of february. 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020106/gfsnh-10-186.png?6


Also the warming is exactly where we need it, greenie block end of feb? 


 


Incidently why is no one talking about this? I have heard about the stratosphere all winter, and now finally when there actually is a SSW no one mentions it!?


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Possibly because many people are very concerned about the model output for the next week or so, which indicates yet more rain for virtually everywhere.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Indeed. Q I admire your interest in SWW, etc, but the science is in it's infancy and the correlation between strat temp and surface synoptics is tenuous at best IMO.

As David says we have real weather to contend with in the here and now, and it's not very pretty.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed Neil. Even if there is a change to something colder, and hopefully much drier, later in February, it'll be too late to salvage this total wreck of a winter.


We really do need a drier spell though, be it of the mild or cold type, and soon, so in a sense I am hoping that the SSW that Quantum speaks of does ultimately do something to derail the atlantic train. It can't go on like this for a great many more weeks, surely!


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Sadly this can go on for many more weeks David, it's seems a very stable pattern at the moment. The switch has been flicked to reset, I would suggest this will certainly still be raging in 10 days time. With a renewed winter storm in The States, cyclogenesis will be as prevelent as ever in the North Atlantic. Forget SSW, nothing at present seems likely to shake us out of this rut. With a portion of the vortex looking as though it could pay us a visit, it could actually get a whole lot worse!

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


You can get very fast pattern changes. A SSW should be taken seriously as a sign that the jet stream could become distrubed in the 2nd half of february. Also the negative feedbacks will soon become stronger than the positive feedbacks in terms of cyclogenesis i.e the land is not going to cool any further, the land mass is not going to become any more widely snow covered. However the sea will cool, and sea ice will develop. There is a strong tripole developing in the atlantic which would usually be conductive to a blocking pattern in the UK. 


The SSW could provide a window of a couple of days for some WAA to drive some amplification in that area, this might be enough to take us out of the pattern. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
01 February 2014 21:25:03


Look at the airmasses at 384h on the NAEFES mean.


Still looking out for any effect of the strat warming. Actually there have been some significant changes over the last few days. The mT airmass which was knocking on our door a few days ago is now well to the south. The wet area continues to move further south and east, this would I suppose now correspond to slider lows as you can't really get fully blown frontal depressions that far south. But anyway, we would be much further into the rmP airmass which means less wet. We are also loosing that continental influence with the cP now much further out of reach.


Although note the A airmass is closer than it ever was, now moving towards us on two fronts in the north atlantic, and in northern norway. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Andy Woodcock
01 February 2014 21:46:00
TBH talk of a Strat warming now is a joke because who needs northern blocking at the end of February or March!

After the winter I and many others have endured spring snow is the last thing I won't.

I just hope spring arrives early like in 2003 or 1990 that would suit me fine.

Andy
Andy Woodcock
Penrith
Cumbria

Altitude 535 feet

"Why are the British so worried about climate change? Any change to their climate can only be an improvement" John Daley 2001

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