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mbradshaw
12 February 2014 21:26:23


 


Took me 2 minutes to walk home tonight.  Or would have, had I gone straight home instead of shopping en route


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Russwirral
12 February 2014 21:40:52

This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: idot 



Where to start with a troll message like that.


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/current?LANG=en&CONT=ukuk&LAND=UK®ION=0003&SORT=2&UD=0&INT=06&TYP=windspitzen&ART=kartealle&RUBRIK=akt&DATE=--&CEL=C&SI=mph 

had it been a normal winter this storm would have been a 1 in 3 yr event. Its easy to forget how hiw rare and severe 80+mph winds are.


Take a look at that peak gust chart... thats peak gusts that were managed to be recorded.... many gusts arent recorded.

A red metoffice warning has been spot on.

I fear by morning the true toll of this storm will be felt... im already reeling from 2 downed trees in my apartment carpark...several cars have been written off.

This storm comes when the ground is so saturated the ground just isnt hard enough to hold tree roots. Tonight is just going to pile on the cost for this winter for some people.
Stormchaser
12 February 2014 21:45:41

Remember, we're looking for discussion and reports from the event in this thread, although I'll concede that the poor traffic is a consequence of the event and so has some relevance 


 


There are some lively showers getting into Cornwall, Devon and South Wales at the moment, and in the strong flow they're lining up in places - totals could climb a fair bit on a local scale tonight.


Looking ahead to Friday, the general consensus seems to be on a 20-30mm event for the most part, the higher end being to the west.


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Bagfish
12 February 2014 21:46:52

This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 



Where to start with a troll message like that.


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/current?LANG=en&CONT=ukuk&LAND=UK&REGION=0003&SORT=2&UD=0&INT=06&TYP=windspitzen&ART=kartealle&RUBRIK=akt&DATE=--&CEL=C&SI=mph

had it been a normal winter this storm would have been a 1 in 3 yr event. Its easy to forget how hiw rare and severe 80+mph winds are.


Take a look at that peak gust chart... thats peak gusts that were managed to be recorded.... many gusts arent recorded.

A red metoffice warning has been spot on.

I fear by morning the true toll of this storm will be felt... im already reeling from 2 downed trees in my apartment carpark...several cars have been written off.

This storm comes when the ground is so saturated the ground just isnt hard enough to hold tree roots. Tonight is just going to pile on the cost for this winter for some people.

Originally Posted by: idot 


 


Thankyou for being a voice of reason Russwirral. 


I know one is not supposed to feed the trolls, but really, coming on here and making a STUPID statement like that from the safety of a Sussex address nowhere near the track of this storm seems like very under-the-bridge behaviour to me.  Maybe the trolls are being forced out by floodwater......


Near Kendal, Cumbria
Home 180m asl
Weather Station 
Bugglesgate
12 February 2014 21:49:38



I cannot put this into words really. Never seen winds like this. Insane out there and I believe we're only gusting to around 70mph here in Stoke.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Behave yerself!


Yes, it's very windy - but we've had worse.


Took me almost 2 hours to get home tonight. Not because driving conditions were difficult, but because of the fe***n arsewitted decision to close off half the region's vital motorway network for rush hour. Quite why the authorities closed the Thelwall Viaduct and Barton Bridge to ALL vehicles is beyond me. Just close the bridges to lorries & larger vans and let cars continue to use them (like they often do on cross-Pennine routes).


Saying that, I despise traffic jams with a passion, so took the back roads route home. But every time I hit one a snarl-up that didn't move within a few minutes, I'd try another route. Ended up going down a potholed road over Chat Moss (probably passed near Kevin Bradshaw's house!!) before hitting another traffic jam back on the main road. Then another. Then another. I reckon if I'd have just crawled westwards along the M62, I'd have cut 15-20 mins off my eventual journey time. If I'd stayed on the A57, probably half an hour.


I'm guessing I'm in the minority for getting insanely angry at traffic jams. I feel homicidal toward all the other *****rs who've dared not stay on the gridlocked main road network, and instead are snarling up MY rat-runs.



Originally Posted by: RobR 


 


I'm just the same - seriously, I'll go miles round to avoid them.  I'm especially wary of jams on M-Ways and Dual Carriage Ways.  No ruddy escape if you grind to a halt between junctions !


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Saint Snow
12 February 2014 21:50:01

I will say that on my Odyssian journey home, I saw 3 downed trees, although none of them were particularly large/mature, and drivers were easily able to drive around them. Sat in a queue in Manchester city centre, my car was absolutely jiggled about by the wind.


Did ponder at one stage how much more fun it would have been with heavy snow thrown into the strong winds. Now that WOULD have been a bit of a challenge.


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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Aneurin Bevan
mbradshaw
12 February 2014 21:57:34


I will say that on my Odyssian journey home, I saw 3 downed trees, although none of them were particularly large/mature, and drivers were easily able to drive around them. Sat in a queue in Manchester city centre, my car was absolutely jiggled about by the wind.


Did ponder at one stage how much more fun it would have been with heavy snow thrown into the strong winds. Now that WOULD have been a bit of a challenge.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Going off the tone (and word choices used) from my Bro when I told him the snow gates had been closed on the A82 earlier today, I don't think blowing snow was high on his wish list 


It's been an eventful day, though not here on Skye (unless you call 5-10cms of thawing wet slush an event) 

Bugglesgate
12 February 2014 21:58:09


This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: Bagfish 



Where to start with a troll message like that.


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/current?LANG=en&CONT=ukuk&LAND=UK&REGION=0003&SORT=2&UD=0&INT=06&TYP=windspitzen&ART=kartealle&RUBRIK=akt&DATE=--&CEL=C&SI=mph

had it been a normal winter this storm would have been a 1 in 3 yr event. Its easy to forget how hiw rare and severe 80+mph winds are.


Take a look at that peak gust chart... thats peak gusts that were managed to be recorded.... many gusts arent recorded.

A red metoffice warning has been spot on.

I fear by morning the true toll of this storm will be felt... im already reeling from 2 downed trees in my apartment carpark...several cars have been written off.

This storm comes when the ground is so saturated the ground just isnt hard enough to hold tree roots. Tonight is just going to pile on the cost for this winter for some people.

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


 


Thankyou for being a voice of reason Russwirral. 


I know one is not supposed to feed the trolls, but really, coming on here and making a STUPID statement like that from the safety of a Sussex address nowhere near the track of this storm seems like very under-the-bridge behaviour to me.  Maybe the trolls are being forced out by floodwater......


Originally Posted by: idot 


 


It wasn't that severe here either - today, but  looking at the news feeds  from other areas and  taking into a  account  the battering the UK has taken as a whole  since Dec, anyone who thinks the  situation overall  is not extremely serious  is either a  troll or an  blithering idiot  - or maybe both !


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
mbradshaw
12 February 2014 22:04:20

What was the lowest central pressure for this system? I got 958.6hPa at 20:52 but I'm guessing it had filled a bit before reaching our area.

NickR
12 February 2014 22:07:14


What was the lowest central pressure for this system? I got 958.6hPa at 20:52 but I'm guessing it had filled a bit before reaching our area.


Originally Posted by: mbradshaw 


Not sure, Martyn. I got 959.9hPa before it started to rise. 958.2hPa is the lowest I have recorded this season.


Nick
Durham
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Saint Snow
12 February 2014 22:11:38


This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: Bagfish 



Where to start with a troll message like that.


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/maps/current?LANG=en&CONT=ukuk&LAND=UK&REGION=0003&SORT=2&UD=0&INT=06&TYP=windspitzen&ART=kartealle&RUBRIK=akt&DATE=--&CEL=C&SI=mph

had it been a normal winter this storm would have been a 1 in 3 yr event. Its easy to forget how hiw rare and severe 80+mph winds are.


Take a look at that peak gust chart... thats peak gusts that were managed to be recorded.... many gusts arent recorded.

A red metoffice warning has been spot on.

I fear by morning the true toll of this storm will be felt... im already reeling from 2 downed trees in my apartment carpark...several cars have been written off.

This storm comes when the ground is so saturated the ground just isnt hard enough to hold tree roots. Tonight is just going to pile on the cost for this winter for some people.

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


 


Thankyou for being a voice of reason Russwirral. 


I know one is not supposed to feed the trolls, but really, coming on here and making a STUPID statement like that from the safety of a Sussex address nowhere near the track of this storm seems like very under-the-bridge behaviour to me.  Maybe the trolls are being forced out by floodwater......


Originally Posted by: idot 


 


Speaking from the fringes of the red warning zone... I think it's been noteworthy - but I stick to my earlier comment that we've had worse, even in the last decade.


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
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Aneurin Bevan
Ulric
12 February 2014 22:13:02
I'm looking at GFS for Friday night and Saturday morning. That looks nasty too.
”The interlocking power of stupidity below, and love of power above, paralyses the efforts of rational men.” - Bertrand Russell
doctormog
12 February 2014 22:16:01


What was the lowest central pressure for this system? I got 958.6hPa at 20:52 but I'm guessing it had filled a bit before reaching our area.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Not sure, Martyn. I got 959.9hPa before it started to rise. 958.2hPa is the lowest I have recorded this season.

Originally Posted by: mbradshaw 



It is c.957hPa here currently and a little lower further south (around Dundee and Leuchars)
Medlock Vale Weather
12 February 2014 22:26:19

This was a very nasty pressure system and it did warrant the red warning as it caused damage and the gusts were violent enough for flying debris. But I have experienced worse winds here (over 80mph) as other storms have only just pipped it to the post.


Still it doesn't compensate for the wild Winter we have had. We desperately need these storms to give us a break and those flooded areas dry out.


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
NickR
12 February 2014 22:26:54
Just lost the second palm tree this year... that said, they were both dead - killed in the 2010 freeze - and rotting at the base, so it's hardly surprising. Only question now is what to do with the clematis that was growing up them!
Nick
Durham
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Osprey
12 February 2014 22:30:54

Just lost the second palm tree this year... that said, they were both dead - killed in the 2010 freeze - and rotting at the base, so it's hardly surprising. Only question now is what to do with the clematis that was growing up them!

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Don't place to climb a fence we have another storm Friday


Nobody likes a smartass, especially another smartass...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
ChrisJG
12 February 2014 22:51:28
Some serious gusts blasting through now....serious stuff..noises are unbelievable
Home - near Penrith 150m ASL
Work - North/Central Cumbria
Medlock Vale Weather
12 February 2014 22:56:36

According to Netweather Great Dun Fell "saw" a gust of 113mph..........the hills have eyes! 


https://twitter.com/Netweather


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Matty H
12 February 2014 22:59:19

If I hear another person say "I've lived here all my life..." Grow up, you just have a short memory; 1990 and 2007 were much worse. Also, in the Thames you have the money. Stop
Trying to sponge

Originally Posted by: idot 



What a very odd character you are. This and your last post are contenders for the daftest I've read on here. I've only left them so they can embarrass you.
DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
12 February 2014 23:04:09

Bbcn:"very few parts of the uk are unaffected" crap. Actually the reverse is true

Originally Posted by: idot 


And yet, just 3 miles from Polegate


Alert


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Flood status last changed: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:52:00 GMT


Cuckmere River


Following the rainfall today the water levels on the River Cuckmere remain high, particularly in the Hellingly, Horsebridge and Alfriston areas. The forecast overnight is for light scattered showers. The level on the River Cuckmere will begin to drop during the night. Further rainfall, sometimes heavy, is expected from 06:00 Thursday 13 February. This will cause the water levels on the River Cuckmere to rise again. We are continuing to monitor the situation and we will update this message as the situation changes.


Nothing like 'up north', but just wait until Fridays' rain 


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Nordic Snowman
12 February 2014 23:10:53
A recent hail shower but the wind is now stronger and very gusty in the last hour - more so than at any time since the main rain band cleared, early pm.
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sunny coast
12 February 2014 23:22:18

Bbcn:"very few parts of the uk are unaffected" crap. Actually the reverse is true

Originally Posted by: idot 


 


certainly not here rain much less than expected and basically a windy afternoon but nothing out of ordinary

RobR
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  • Advanced Member
12 February 2014 23:22:22

The power of the wind today was something I've not experienced before....at least not inland. Having left work at 6pm...I was pretty much blown back to my car in a strong sustained wind. Once I arrived home (we live on a hill)...I could tell that the wind was much stronger.


 


The show home signs (massive metal sign) has bent over. The wheelie bins were scattered around and wood planks that I've had sitting around. I then faced a battle just to open the car door and then fight with the bins to get them laid down in the garden. Even in our relatively sheltered garden it was just crazy. There were a few guests at around 7pm...where I genuinely thought the windows would go through. 


 


I'm glad there isn't any major problems in terms of life lost...it was a fascinating day which started so calm. It is unusual to see a storm upgraded from early tracking...so it was nice to see that happening (despite the destruction) and it was an event I'm glad I've experienced. With speeds like that inland...I dread to think how the coast was.


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Gooner
12 February 2014 23:23:49

This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: idot 


Oh come on.....are you kidding or just pi***d


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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nsrobins
12 February 2014 23:29:52

 



This is NOT. A major event by any standard... Yet huge overhype

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Oh come on.....are you kidding or just pi***d


Originally Posted by: idot 


Maybe both?


If it's opinion based on fact, the statement is clearly flawed looking at some of the reports from the Northwest. The damage and disruption is a worthy event and IMO justified the red warning for the area concerned.

I'm not sure how long you've been a member idot, but you must realise that posts like your's this evening are going to anger many on here.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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