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vince
03 March 2014 07:33:54
Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer
Sevendust
03 March 2014 07:57:06

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 


Cue Darren

UncleAlbert
03 March 2014 08:01:07

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 


 


Not so good really. Our long time friend the Canadian vortex is still doing its best to the spoil the party judging by this mornings main op output. Struggling to settle down in the medium to long term with the threat of more wind for all early next week.


 

Andy Woodcock
03 March 2014 08:10:01
No not good at all, our week end dry, mild spell is over by Saturday night according to the MetO run with cool westerly winds by Sunday.

ECM and GFS both have high pressure to our south in FI which would restrict and good weather to the SE.

The only common theme is that winter is unlikely to return in March according to current output so most areas will keep their zero lying snow record this winter.

Andy
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The Beast from the East
03 March 2014 08:24:45

Holy crap. Just when I thought it was safe to put away the Mac and Brolly, the roaring jet returns to flatten our high. The South will stay less wet but any rain, even small amounts. is causing groundwater flows to reach surface. Further flooding reported locally from last nights rain and I dread to think what will happen later on today when these showers get going


 


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Scandy 1050 MB
03 March 2014 08:39:33


Holy crap. Just when I thought it was safe to put away the Mac and Brolly, the roaring jet returns to flatten our high. The South will stay less wet but any rain, even small amounts. is causing groundwater flows to reach surface. Further flooding reported locally from last nights rain and I dread to think what will happen later on today when these showers get going


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You couldn't make it up - Azores high is now becoming like the phantom easterly - many shown but nearer the time it gets pushed back to further into FI! So much for the spring like weather, even down in the SE looking precarious after Saturday, FI it has another go Azores high wise but poor runs this morning if early spring warmth and dry weather you are after compared to the last few days of runs.


GFS ensemble tells the story - you could have picked this from any day in the winter and it looks the same temperature wise, granted the rainfall isn't as much but even that has picked up from recent runs:


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


 

soperman
03 March 2014 09:01:24

No not good at all, our week end dry, mild spell is over by Saturday night according to the MetO run with cool westerly winds by Sunday.

ECM and GFS both have high pressure to our south in FI which would restrict and good weather to the SE.

The only common theme is that winter is unlikely to return in March according to current output so most areas will keep their zero lying snow record this winter.

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Hi Andy


Or in my case zero falling snow record - not a single flake and just 1 or 2 frosts!! Simply amazing

Ally Pally Snowman
03 March 2014 09:05:40
The settled spell not looking so settled at the moment.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1441.html 
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Crepuscular Ray
03 March 2014 09:15:52
I'm afraid the milder settled spell was never going to affect Scotland, although to be fair the Lothians and Fife can too quite well in a SW with a slight Foehn effect. What I will be dreading to see throughout Spring and early Summer in the models is a NE, E or even SE flow up here!
Jerry
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Stormchaser
03 March 2014 09:16:44

Uh-oh.


The small trough next week that was being modelled to drop south and prop up a strong ridge building over the top of it is now suddenly being taken NE instead.


That means the Atlantic gets some support instead of the high pressure ridge.


A real shame if this change sticks - still generally drier in the south but still with frontal systems moving through preventing a run of reliably decent weather.


 


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Charmhills
03 March 2014 10:03:17

Models looking somewhat dodgy this morning with our ridge coming under attack from the mighty Atlantic.


Things are never straight forwards in this country are they.


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The Beast from the East
03 March 2014 12:12:41

06z continues the poor output this morning. Constant battle with the Azores and Atlantic. Most of the rain in northern areas


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Gooner
03 March 2014 13:20:24

Models must be trending warmer this morning as i see the usuals have'nt posted yet .love it, my motto lovely winter ,superb hot summer

Originally Posted by: vince 


Look again, the warm has always been a a couple of days wonder Vinnie


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Gavin P
03 March 2014 13:34:08

Hi all,


Here's the March month ahead forecast video;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Quite a trivcy month to pin down actually.


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Ally Pally Snowman
03 March 2014 17:00:23
An improvement from the 12s GFS is settled pretty much all the way through.

The ukmo also looks very Spring like.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.html 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.html 

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Steam Fog
03 March 2014 18:15:28
Looks settled and relatively mild for the time if year in the south.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 

Slightly less settled, but still milder than normal in the north.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png 

LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
03 March 2014 19:16:53
All of GFS, ECMWF and All of UKMO 12z run Output have 9days at least of Most of time Fine Mild Settled dry and Sunny wow Spring type weather forecast for many in South SW and N Central to E and SE Parts of UK.

But Some days the Western and Northern to Central parts see cool to colder weather with rain and showers and breezy Low Pressure on just some parts of the same period.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Stormchaser
03 March 2014 21:12:40

So a bit of a recovery this evening as the energy in the Atlantic digs a bit further south before hiking NE... that at least promotes more of a ridge both ahead and behind it, saving us from a renewed Atlantic train - but it does rely on a bit of luck here and there.


ECM seems to have decided that now its spring, the day 9-10 teases must follow a theme of high pressure and 10*C uppers near to or over the UK, as opposed to biting easterlies 


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Hungry Tiger
03 March 2014 23:15:52

Superb stuff from the ECM tonight.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1201.html
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html

Getting toasty by day 10!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



That lots nice - bring it on.


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UncleAlbert
03 March 2014 23:51:20
After the major wobble by the big 3 models this morning everything seems hunky dory again. Strange how they have all swung in unison today. But anyway with the 1800 gfs carrying on with the midday optimism.... and looking pretty dry and hopefully sunny and warmish by day for the most part right out to the remotely reliable who is complaining?
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
04 March 2014 00:03:29
Time to look forward to Tomorrow's North Atlantic and Europe Model Forecasts- UK looks set for a dry spell and if it brings warm sunny spells then roll it in.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
nsrobins
04 March 2014 00:52:40

After the major wobble by the big 3 models this morning everything seems hunky dory again. Strange how they have all swung in unison today. But anyway with the 1800 gfs carrying on with the midday optimism.... and looking pretty dry and hopefully sunny and warmish by day for the most part right out to the remotely reliable who is complaining?

Originally Posted by: UncleAlbert 


I'm certainly not. I dsmissed any possibility of a winter here some weeks ago and with the daffs out, the early blossom in flower and birds singing away in the mornings, bring on the sun and more especially good riddance to the rain I say.


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KevBrads1
04 March 2014 06:20:14



12C toasty?

If you want to know what that set-up may bring look at this site and it has London at 12C for that day

http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/London/long.html 
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Retron
04 March 2014 06:24:40



12C toasty?

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


AllyPallySnowman over-exaggerates wamth on charts for whatever reason. See this link earlier in the thread where he was going on about 20C being possible from a similar chart!


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&m=585863#post585863


As you say, the ECMWF chart isn't exactly "toasty". Reading has a high of 13C on that day according to the ECM ensembles, with the median being 11C (edited as I was looking at the 9th rather than day 10 initially).


 


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