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Lumi-Ukko
07 June 2014 23:36:41

 Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Too right.


I thought Gerrard and Hart had a good post match interview (don't ask how I get ITV here in USA), grounded and optimistic; they know there's work to be done, but not panicking.  Seems the most harmonious I have seen the England squad since Portugal 2004.


 


Matty H
07 June 2014 23:39:13

 Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Lumi-Ukko 


Too right.


I thought Gerrard and Hart had a good post match interview (don't ask how I get ITV here in USA), grounded and optimistic; they know there's work to be done, but not panicking.  Seems the most harmonious I have seen the England squad since Portugal 2004.


 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Already mentioned about too many touches. Woy seems a possession man which seems to lead to a lack off cutting edge in the final third too often.

Who starts with Rooney next week? Woy will of course, but should he?
SEMerc
07 June 2014 23:51:34


 Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Too right.


I thought Gerrard and Hart had a good post match interview (don't ask how I get ITV here in USA), grounded and optimistic; they know there's work to be done, but not panicking.  Seems the most harmonious I have seen the England squad since Portugal 2004.


 


Originally Posted by: Lumi-Ukko 



Already mentioned about too many touches. Woy seems a possession man which seems to lead to a lack off cutting edge in the final third too often.

Who starts with Rooney next week? Woy will of course, but should he?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Well we know Woy will start with Rooney - that's a given.


I think he'll plonk Sterling on the right, Lallana on the left.


Behind those three it will be Henderson-Gerrard as that's about the most defensive pairing Woy has at his disposal.


The back five picks itself (including Johnson.)

Matty H
08 June 2014 00:11:59
Oh, he'll certainly pick him, but should he?

Johnson wouldn't look at all out of place in the Championship. I actually think the team is pretty well balanced. Miles off the pace in terms of ability, but it looks as good as could be hoped for. Wilshere concerns me.
Lumi-Ukko
08 June 2014 03:03:17

Oh, he'll certainly pick him, but should he?

Johnson wouldn't look at all out of place in the Championship. I actually think the team is pretty well balanced. Miles off the pace in terms of ability, but it looks as good as could be hoped for. Wilshere concerns me.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Nah, don't worry about Wilshere, only one person can give the ball away at any one time and Johnson has shown he is king of that.


I'd agree though, the team does look quite balanced, even if lacking in killer skills and ability. How we need right now a Shearer up front to tuck away the goals, and a Beckham on the right to supply some crosses.  That would actually be a half decent XI, but a totally moot point.


Essan
08 June 2014 07:07:06


Oh, he'll certainly pick him, but should he?

Johnson wouldn't look at all out of place in the Championship. I actually think the team is pretty well balanced. Miles off the pace in terms of ability, but it looks as good as could be hoped for. Wilshere concerns me.

Originally Posted by: Lumi-Ukko 


Nah, don't worry about Wilshere, only one person can give the ball away at any one time and Johnson has shown he is king of that.


I'd agree though, the team does look quite balanced, even if lacking in killer skills and ability. How we need right now a Shearer up front to tuck away the goals, and a Beckham on the right to supply some crosses.  That would actually be a half decent XI, but a totally moot point.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Is it too late to call Beckham up?   I'm sure he'd be up for it


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ARTzeman
08 June 2014 07:42:51

I need to change my number 10 shirt... For somebody that does play..... Entertainment was ok  for England....At least they did not loose... Shame about the stormy interruption.....






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Saint Snow
08 June 2014 09:55:05



Johnson wouldn't look at all out of place in the Championship. 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Johnson's been poor most of the season for Liverpool. I wish we had a top class right back. Hell, I'd even say Gary Neville right now.


Rooney is offering next to nothing - so frustrating, as Owl is bending over backwards to try to accomodate him and get the best out of him. Welbeck was also pretty anonymous last night.


Honduras seemed intent on causing injury last night, the muppets.



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Gooner
08 June 2014 13:46:54

Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


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Saint Snow
08 June 2014 14:06:34


Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Sturridge in the form that he had for much of last season would be as prolific. He seemed rusty last night, but he's got a great football brain, in terms of the runs he makes.


Wilshere also looks under-cooked.


I'm hoping both England and Italy play a cagey game; I'd be happy with a 0-0 bore-athon to open.



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Lumi-Ukko
08 June 2014 18:01:25

Suggestions that Roy might use Rooney to man mark Pirlo next week. Not sure how I feel about that.  Rooney does not have the discipline to stay out of trouble; Pirlo is a clever player who will rile Rooney up.  Plus, I thnk Rooney wants to be the 'man', the fulcrum of the team, so being played solely to man-mark Pirlo would not go down well with him.  I wonder if someone with legs like Milner might be preferred?  That would be a boring three picks wouldn't it, Gerrard, Henderson, and Milner?


future_is_orange
09 June 2014 06:13:34




Johnson wouldn't look at all out of place in the Championship. 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Johnson's been poor most of the season for Liverpool. I wish we had a top class right back. Hell, I'd even say Gary Neville right now.


Rooney is offering next to nothing - so frustrating, as Owl is bending over backwards to try to accomodate him and get the best out of him. Welbeck was also pretty anonymous last night.


Honduras seemed intent on causing injury last night, the muppets.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Unfortunately it look likes Johnson will be our RB..he is very poor, esp when you consider the LB and the one left at home !! Rooney's contribution has been slight..certainly playing on past performances of years ago.


 

Gooner
09 June 2014 07:10:56



Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Sturridge in the form that he had for much of last season would be as prolific. He seemed rusty last night, but he's got a great football brain, in terms of the runs he makes.


Wilshere also looks under-cooked.


I'm hoping both England and Italy play a cagey game; I'd be happy with a 0-0 bore-athon to open.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I think we will win the opener, Italy aren't in the best of form at the moment


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future_is_orange
09 June 2014 11:16:40




Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Sturridge in the form that he had for much of last season would be as prolific. He seemed rusty last night, but he's got a great football brain, in terms of the runs he makes.


Wilshere also looks under-cooked.


I'm hoping both England and Italy play a cagey game; I'd be happy with a 0-0 bore-athon to open.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I think we will win the opener, Italy aren't in the best of form at the moment


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Think England will draw against Italy and Uraguay. It will come down to golas against costa rica

SEMerc
09 June 2014 11:22:57





Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Sturridge in the form that he had for much of last season would be as prolific. He seemed rusty last night, but he's got a great football brain, in terms of the runs he makes.


Wilshere also looks under-cooked.


I'm hoping both England and Italy play a cagey game; I'd be happy with a 0-0 bore-athon to open.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I think we will win the opener, Italy aren't in the best of form at the moment


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Think England will draw against Italy and Uraguay. It will come down to golas against costa rica


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


One thing is for sure, this WC will come down more than usual to how managers use their subs.


In the game against Italy, does Woy start with a cautious line-up i.e. not using Sterling, but bringing him on late in the game when the Italians are knackered (like us)


OR


Does he use the sh.i.t or bust strategy by starting with Sterling, hoping we can pick up an early goal or two and then closing the game out with someone like Milner.

Gooner
09 June 2014 13:04:58






Didn't learn anything we don't already know. England are average. Familiar signs of not being able to clinically put away inferior opposition.

Little else to learn from games like this. England probably lucky not to pick up another injury as Honduras were filthy. Amazed Wilshere has made it this far already.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Quite an accurate assessment, it was clear Jacky boy was staying out of trouble , we certainly don't have a Shearer or Lineaker do we.


 


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


 


Sturridge in the form that he had for much of last season would be as prolific. He seemed rusty last night, but he's got a great football brain, in terms of the runs he makes.


Wilshere also looks under-cooked.


I'm hoping both England and Italy play a cagey game; I'd be happy with a 0-0 bore-athon to open.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I think we will win the opener, Italy aren't in the best of form at the moment


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Think England will draw against Italy and Uraguay. It will come down to golas against costa rica


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


One thing is for sure, this WC will come down more than usual to how managers use their subs.


In the game against Italy, does Woy start with a cautious line-up i.e. not using Sterling, but bringing him on late in the game when the Italians are knackered (like us)


OR


Does he use the sh.i.t or bust strategy by starting with Sterling, hoping we can pick up an early goal or two and then closing the game out with someone like Milner.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Agreed, we have some decent impact players who can run around for 20 minutes


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Saint Snow
09 June 2014 19:05:41

Blather tries to quiet the increasing unease about the endemic corruption within FIFA and the Qatar bid, by branding anyone who questions the dubious bidding process as 'racists'


 


Jeez, has he been taking lessons from Israel?



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NickR
09 June 2014 19:08:34


Blather tries to quiet the increasing unease about the endemic corruption within FIFA and the Qatar bid, by branding anyone who questions the dubious bidding process as 'racists'


 


Jeez, has he been taking lessons from Israel?


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


What a total and complete tool that man is. Aside from the continued failure to recognise how corrupt his organisation is, there is the irony of the man who denies there is any racism in football and does FA about it, now trying to take the race moral highground!


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Saint Snow
09 June 2014 19:20:07


 there is the irony of the man who denies there is any racism in football and does FA about it, now trying to take the race moral highground!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


 


Very good point, Nick


How the jiggery-pokery can a £multi-billion industry allow the cesspit of corruption that is FIFA rule & dictate the direction of the game?


As has been said, UEFA should break away, but it seems its own little chiefs are firmly sat on the gravy train as well.



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sriram
09 June 2014 19:31:04
I have just read a report that Pele has said that England and Brazil have the same chance of winning the World Cup

?????????


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NickR
09 June 2014 19:34:33

I have just read a report that Pele has said that England and Brazil have the same chance of winning the World Cup

?????????

Originally Posted by: sriram 


You've either misread or not understood the quotation.


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SEMerc
09 June 2014 20:00:58

I have just read a report that Pele has said that England and Brazil have the same chance of winning the World Cup

?????????

Originally Posted by: sriram 


Most odd - the Women's World Cup isn't until 2015.

SEMerc
09 June 2014 21:01:54

On a somewhat amusing note a new book out in France, written by two high profile local journos, indicates the reason Nasri isn't going to the World Cup is because Lloris and others 'recommended' to the water carrier that he not select the little prick.

Matty H
09 June 2014 21:06:41

I have just read a report that Pele has said that England and Brazil have the same chance of winning the World Cup

?????????

Originally Posted by: NickR 


You've either misread or not understood the quotation.

Originally Posted by: sriram 



Correct. A BBC reporter asked him how he thought England would get on. He was just being typically polite. He's hardly going to say the truth, with the truth being what it is, in front of the world's media.
SydneyonTees
09 June 2014 22:47:13



Blather tries to quiet the increasing unease about the endemic corruption within FIFA and the Qatar bid, by branding anyone who questions the dubious bidding process as 'racists'


 


Jeez, has he been taking lessons from Israel?


Originally Posted by: NickR 


What a total and complete tool that man is. Aside from the continued failure to recognise how corrupt his organisation is, there is the irony of the man who denies there is any racism in football and does FA about it, now trying to take the race moral highground!


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


And who is running the investigation in to corruption in FIFA..........


 


FIFA is lol


 


How can a company run an investigation in to corruption within their own organisation......gee I wonder what the outcome will be


FIFA will never be clean whilst Blatter is there. I am sure if there was a full independent investigation with full access to the required information then there would be more than sufficient evidence to send Blatter and a good few others to prison.

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