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SydneyonTees
22 June 2014 23:03:50

Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Ok, I'll assume you are actually being serious. Were you watching? Dreadful. Tournament dark horses? They are no more a dark horse than Max Clifford.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Young team full of talent and potential. But like I said before the world cup, not a team / country that is tournament tough. Up againt the likes of Germany, Netherlands, Argentian or Brazil they will fall down. but on their day could potentially give them a good game.
Perhaps Belgium are a bit like England used to be - expectations, potential but probably won't deliver on the big stage. They will probably go out on penalties at some stage.
Could be one to watch at Euro 2016 if Belgium improve further, they certainly have the players to do well in that one.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



From what I've seen of them so far they will go out to any of the teams they could face in the next round.

You watching now? What a save Tim Howard!

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


I have it on in the back ground at work, but missed the save.


 


 

Matty H
22 June 2014 23:16:33
Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.
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SydneyonTees
22 June 2014 23:24:59

Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


That was a quality goal by the USA.


 


What happened to Klinsmann's hair though, great big baldy patch at the back lol

Matty H
22 June 2014 23:33:13

Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 


That was a quality goal by the USA.


 


What happened to Klinsmann's hair though, great big baldy patch at the back lol

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Age. Gets us all eventually lol.

They are destroying Portugal in attack. Seriously this is a very good USA side. Embarrassing for England.
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Matty H
22 June 2014 23:39:14
And their fans are superb as well. Piss all over England repetitive, nauseating drummers and same old tired songs.
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Matty H
22 June 2014 23:40:05
And with that they totally deservedly take the lead!
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SydneyonTees
22 June 2014 23:45:22

And with that they totally deservedly take the lead!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Anothe rvery good goal from the USA there, poor closing down by the Portugal defense mind, not marking up close enough at all for both goals.


All credit to USA though, they look a good side like you say.

Matty H
23 June 2014 00:00:56
Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA
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SydneyonTees
23 June 2014 00:03:47

Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


It was a good goal from Portugal right at the death there, not sure it was deserved.


USA will have to close out games better than that though, they will  be disapointed as it was the last kick of the game just about!

Matty H
23 June 2014 00:07:14

Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 


It was a good goal from Portugal right at the death there, not sure it was deserved.


USA will have to close out games better than that though, they will  be disapointed as it was the last kick of the game just about!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



It wasn't deserved. You've just said what I've said on Facebook. They had the ball in the corner a couple of times and tried to get the ball into the box. Run the clock down.
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SydneyonTees
23 June 2014 00:10:09


Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


It was a good goal from Portugal right at the death there, not sure it was deserved.


USA will have to close out games better than that though, they will  be disapointed as it was the last kick of the game just about!


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



It wasn't deserved. You've just said what I've said on Facebook. They had the ball in the corner a couple of times and tried to get the ball into the box. Run the clock down.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Indeed, and small things like this in the knock out stages will be very costly. USA are a good team, Klinsmann has them playing attractive football and has a good system that is gettign the best out of them


 


However I think a question mark still remains on what will happen when a really good side goes after them. I suspect they might be too fragile at the back.

Matty H
23 June 2014 00:16:57


Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 


It was a good goal from Portugal right at the death there, not sure it was deserved.


USA will have to close out games better than that though, they will  be disapointed as it was the last kick of the game just about!


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



It wasn't deserved. You've just said what I've said on Facebook. They had the ball in the corner a couple of times and tried to get the ball into the box. Run the clock down.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


 


Indeed, and small things like this in the knock out stages will be very costly. USA are a good team, Klinsmann has them playing attractive football and has a good system that is gettign the best out of them


 


However I think a question mark still remains on what will happen when a really good side goes after them. I suspect they might be too fragile at the back.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



In all likelihood, but they have goals in the side, and, unlike England, they don't have the rabbit in car headlights mentality
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SydneyonTees
23 June 2014 00:21:22



Spawny, greasy tards.

Great ball in from king grease to be fair. They are still odds on to go out.

Germany Draw v Draw USA

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


It was a good goal from Portugal right at the death there, not sure it was deserved.


USA will have to close out games better than that though, they will  be disapointed as it was the last kick of the game just about!


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



It wasn't deserved. You've just said what I've said on Facebook. They had the ball in the corner a couple of times and tried to get the ball into the box. Run the clock down.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Indeed, and small things like this in the knock out stages will be very costly. USA are a good team, Klinsmann has them playing attractive football and has a good system that is gettign the best out of them


 


However I think a question mark still remains on what will happen when a really good side goes after them. I suspect they might be too fragile at the back.


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



In all likelihood, but they have goals in the side, and, unlike England, they don't have the rabbit in car headlights mentality

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


They do have the look of a side that says.... well you score 2 and we will score 3 about them. But that only takes you so far.


Anyway another good entertaining game.


Can't be bothered getting up at 2am for England v Costa Rica this Wednesday! Must be a 5pm kick off in the UK? Will be a strange feeling because usually the pubs would be packed and people would be rushing home from work or watching at work.


I suspect the majority in England won't give a *** either.

Matty H
23 June 2014 00:24:24
Well I certainly couldn't and won't be watching it. Irrelevant dead rubber. I just hope CR whallop us.
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Matty H
23 June 2014 07:43:11
Actually fair play to Steven Gerrard

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27969231 

Come on Harry, put your money where your mouth is.
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SydneyonTees
23 June 2014 08:52:01

Actually fair play to Steven Gerrard

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27969231

Come on Harry, put your money where your mouth is.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Agreed, but then I never take anything Harry says seriously, same as his bank manager no doubt.


SEMerc
23 June 2014 09:10:21

I'm still trying to figure out how Germany's group goes. Assuming a narrow US loss and a narrow loss for Ghana against Portugal that would be enough to get the US through.


Still, predicting results in this group has proven a waste of time so far.

SEMerc
23 June 2014 09:15:01

Interesting from 'Arry. I wonder who he's referring to?
http://www.sportal.co.nz/football/world-cup-2014/redknapp-players-tried-to-shirk-england-duty/104e36vfj6lsp1gwrjubzto3s5

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Has to be Defoe. He knew he'd only end up letting the team down and embarrassing himself.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Someone on the Spurs board suggested Bentley. I'd say that's a good shout.

Saint Snow
23 June 2014 09:16:10

Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Several of the USA side have played in the Premier League and, whilst mostly looking decent players, have not been superstars of the League or, it has to be said, looked any better than many of their English counterparts. And these have tended to be the better USA players. IIRC, one or two have also played in the Championship without looking outstanding.


So, how come, when they play together for their national team, do they look much better than you would expect from seeing them at clubs?


 


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Brian Gaze
23 June 2014 09:30:53

Woy got his tactics wrong according to Lineker:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27960776


I'd be happy to get the tactics wrong for £1 million and save the FA £2.5 million.

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SEMerc
23 June 2014 09:32:58


Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Several of the USA side have played in the Premier League and, whilst mostly looking decent players, have not been superstars of the League or, it has to be said, looked any better than many of their English counterparts. And these have tended to be the better USA players. IIRC, one or two have also played in the Championship without looking outstanding.


So, how come, when they play together for their national team, do they look much better than you would expect from seeing them at clubs?


 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


You could argue the same about Chile. I would suggest patriotism trumps money.


Moreover, Chile and the U.S play as teams.

SEMerc
23 June 2014 09:34:42


Woy got his tactics wrong according to Lineker:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27960776


I'd be happy to get the tactics wrong for £1 million and save the FA £2.5 million.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Bloody hell, Linekar has now had a pop at Stevie G AND Woy. What next? Eating children live on TV? 

SEMerc
23 June 2014 09:41:33

Anyway, best case scenario would be for the US to beat Germany and Ghana to thrash Portugal. I'd laugh my head off if that happened.

Saint Snow
23 June 2014 09:48:56


Bloody hell, Linekar has now had a pop at Stevie G AND Woy. What next? Eating children live on TV? 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


They must have nicked his crisps or something


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
23 June 2014 09:54:58


Another reflection of just how poor and down the pecking order England are. This USA side would beat us all day every day. Far superior in all aspects of the team game. Even worse is it won't change now. It will only get worse. As Hansen has just said - there aren't any youths even coming through the system that have that spark where you think this is different class.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


Several of the USA side have played in the Premier League and, whilst mostly looking decent players, have not been superstars of the League or, it has to be said, looked any better than many of their English counterparts. And these have tended to be the better USA players. IIRC, one or two have also played in the Championship without looking outstanding.


So, how come, when they play together for their national team, do they look much better than you would expect from seeing them at clubs?


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


You could argue the same about Chile. I would suggest patriotism trumps money.


Moreover, Chile and the U.S play as teams.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



If we new the answer to this question we might be able to do something about it. We are not as comfortable on the ball as other teams so tend to panic when in possession although we are getting better at this. You can see the players can feel the pressure of a football obsessed nation on there backs. You can see the way Brazil are playing that they are buckling under the pressure as well. But also tournament football can be decided by fractions if England had not made a couple of defensive errors had a bit of luck at the other end we could easily still be in the World Cup. Both games were close. The stats in the Uruguay game showed we had more possession more shots on and off target. I think we played better this time around than 4 years ago.
I think we are heading in the right direction although its painfully slow.
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