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nickl
06 July 2014 20:43:54
I see brazil are (forlornly) appealing silva's yellow card. This cannot succeed. either they are trying to create a siege mentality or they want to get their excuses in early - 'we lost because fifa didnt want us to win'
Medlock Vale Weather
06 July 2014 21:39:35



You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Best one since 1994 IMO, although I hope the final is better than the one we saw that year! '86 is my all-time favourite World Cup, although I suspect that if I'd been old enough to remember 1982, especially the Brazil games, my opinion would likely be different.


Originally Posted by: howham 


Indeed, the only drama in that final was Baggio's penalty ball that landed in my garden

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Gooner
06 July 2014 22:02:41


You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: howham 


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggghhhhh


'78 was great , balls moving all over the shop, Teflo Cubilas running the Scots around and Archie Gemmil stunner against the Dutch

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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SEMerc
06 July 2014 22:14:06



You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggghhhhh


'78 was great , balls moving all over the shop, Teflo Cubilas running the Scots around and Archie Gemmil stunner against the Dutch


Originally Posted by: howham 


And not forgetting Ally MaCleod.


David M Porter
06 July 2014 22:31:38




You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggghhhhh


'78 was great , balls moving all over the shop, Teflo Cubilas running the Scots around and Archie Gemmil stunner against the Dutch


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


And not forgetting Ally MaCleod.



Originally Posted by: howham 



At least we beat the team that so nearly won the World Cup in '78- Holland. Just not by the number of goals we needed to stay in it though!


I have a cousin who is now 44 and can remember every World Cup since '78 (he went to Italia 90), and in his view the best one was Spain 1982. Loads of high-scoring games and full of drama; who can forget Italy v Brazil and the W Germany v France semi-final, apart from, that is, what Schumacher did to Battiston.

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Brian Gaze
07 July 2014 06:03:39




You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggghhhhh


'78 was great , balls moving all over the shop, Teflo Cubilas running the Scots around and Archie Gemmil stunner against the Dutch


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


And not forgetting Ally MaCleod.


Originally Posted by: howham 


And the drugs scandal.


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howham
07 July 2014 07:45:24


The knockouts have need that drink in order for me to tolerate them though. Dire.


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


 


The QFs were poor but the whole knockouts?  Have we forgotten Belgium v USA already?  Germany v Algeria was entertaining as well. Chile v Brazil?  We also had James Rodriguez's sublime goal against Uruguay.

Arcus
07 July 2014 08:06:37
I certainly have a rose-tinted view of the WCs of the 70s and early 80s, but I think a big part of that was the novelty of gorging on so many live games on TV in such a short space of time. Lest we forget, the only live games you could see regularly on TV back then would be the FA Cup Final.
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nsrobins
07 July 2014 08:09:36

Sorry if it's already been posted, but this is fun:


.gif of all of Tim Howard's saves v Belgium superimposed.


http://imgur.com/gallery/eTEBKOl

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Gooner
07 July 2014 13:26:01





You lot are so funny. Love a good moan!

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


Best World Cup ever. Regardless of upcoming results, football wins.


(for balance)


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggghhhhh


'78 was great , balls moving all over the shop, Teflo Cubilas running the Scots around and Archie Gemmil stunner against the Dutch


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


And not forgetting Ally MaCleod.



Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 



At least we beat the team that so nearly won the World Cup in '78- Holland. Just not by the number of goals we needed to stay in it though!


I have a cousin who is now 44 and can remember every World Cup since '78 (he went to Italia 90), and in his view the best one was Spain 1982. Loads of high-scoring games and full of drama; who can forget Italy v Brazil and the W Germany v France semi-final, apart from, that is, what Schumacher did to Battiston.


Originally Posted by: howham 


Indeed


Lost to Peru 3-1  Drew with Iran 1-1 and beat Holland 3-2 at 3-1 they needed one more goal , didnt Holland have 2 brothers who kept scoring from 40 yards out?

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Lumi-Ukko
07 July 2014 15:30:08


The QFs were poor but the whole knockouts?  Have we forgotten Belgium v USA already?  Germany v Algeria was entertaining as well. Chile v Brazil?  We also had James Rodriguez's sublime goal against Uruguay.


Originally Posted by: howham 


Quite right. The R16 games were largely entertaining IMO, particularly those referenced above.  The QFs were gash though, it has to be noted.

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sriram
07 July 2014 19:05:30
One thing is certain - if Brazil win the World Cup and it is a big IF they will be by far the worst team to win the World Cup - never mind the reputation - on tournament showing - definitely in the top 3 worst teams

It's all about results and not the performance - brazil 1982 were a really great team and they got knocked out in their final group game vs Italy

It's results that count and not show

Most of the reports that I have seen say that Germany will definitely beat Brazil tomorrow, and the jury is out on the other semi - probably a slight bias towards favouring Argentina

So if you look at the final options in order from most to least likely you can say

1 Germany v Argentina

2 Germany v Holland

3 Brazil v Argentina

4 Brazil v Holland
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Essan
07 July 2014 19:18:02

I can see both semis being 0-0 at 90 minutes ....

Hope I am wrong

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sriram
07 July 2014 19:30:38

I can see both semis being 0-0 at 90 minutes ....

Hope I am wrong

Originally Posted by: Essan 



That would be a Disaster
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WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus
07 July 2014 19:35:36



The knockouts have need that drink in order for me to tolerate them though. Dire.


Originally Posted by: howham 


 


The QFs were poor but the whole knockouts?  Have we forgotten Belgium v USA already?  Germany v Algeria was entertaining as well. Chile v Brazil?  We also had James Rodriguez's sublime goal against Uruguay.


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Sorry I meant to say the Quarter Finals! 

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David M Porter
07 July 2014 20:06:02

One thing is certain - if Brazil win the World Cup and it is a big IF they will be by far the worst team to win the World Cup - never mind the reputation - on tournament showing - definitely in the top 3 worst teams

It's all about results and not the performance - brazil 1982 were a really great team and they got knocked out in their final group game vs Italy

It's results that count and not show

Most of the reports that I have seen say that Germany will definitely beat Brazil tomorrow, and the jury is out on the other semi - probably a slight bias towards favouring Argentina

So if you look at the final options in order from most to least likely you can say

1 Germany v Argentina

2 Germany v Holland

3 Brazil v Argentina

4 Brazil v Holland

Originally Posted by: sriram 


Anyone that bets against Brazil on their own soil, regardless of how they've played, is taking a big gamble in my view. It could be that, like the Italians did in '82, they only really start to play towards the end of the World Cup. Virtually no-one gave Italy any chance of beating Brazil in 1982 to stay in that World Cup given the Italians dull start to that tournament, and look at what happened.


The bottom line is never write-off the underdog.

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sriram
07 July 2014 20:33:44
Does anyone know why England never get it right ?

4 years ago thrashed by the Germans in round 2 - everyone saying Capello out and that his authoritarian approach did not help the team and that we need English manager

And end up with Woy and do worse than last time

Whatever next ?

Each time we go out of the World Cup we look for improvements for next time - and 'next time' is always the same as the previous time
Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
162m ASL
nickl
07 July 2014 20:43:56

anyone fed up with the referee's indicating a min of x mins added time and then blowing up exactly on that number, irrespective of what happens after they notify of the extra minutes to be played?


my theory is that these officials are tulipscared of making a bad call and its not in their interest to keep playing any longer than  they absolutely have to. a significant error and their chances of a high profile game in the future are gone. 

Matty H
07 July 2014 23:51:13

Does anyone know why England never get it right ?

4 years ago thrashed by the Germans in round 2 - everyone saying Capello out and that his authoritarian approach did not help the team and that we need English manager

And end up with Woy and do worse than last time

Whatever next ?

Each time we go out of the World Cup we look for improvements for next time - and 'next time' is always the same as the previous time

Originally Posted by: sriram 



I'm 41 next week. It's been this way since I was born, and given the train wreck that is the Prem, I can comfortably say it won't ever change in my lifetime.

In response to Nickl (although not directly to his query), there was an interesting insight on 5 Live earlier. Refs have been specifically instructed in this tournament to keep their cards in their pockets for as long as possible. The days of protecting the star players have been buried. My view? Why does it have to be one or the other. What ever happened to refereeing a game according to the rules of the game? The answer to that can largely be found in the billion replays from every conceivable angle of every incident and then subsequent cross-examination to fecking death of it all afterward by the likes of boring Mark Lawrenson.
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ARTzeman
08 July 2014 08:06:53

"Brahzeel  Brahzeel" ...   Tee shirt on and hoping to wear Sunday... Green socks and undies as well.. Several goals wanted against the "Merkels"  .....





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SEMerc
08 July 2014 09:51:10
Matty H
08 July 2014 10:10:22
Hopefully Germany absolutely humiliate them.
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SydneyonTees
08 July 2014 12:16:59

Hopefully Germany absolutely humiliate them.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Just can't bring myself to back zee Germans. Nothing to do with European history or any of that shite. Just because growing up they have been our nemesis so many times. Can still remember the disappointment of 1990 and Euro 96.

Germany to me almost have that feel of a rival derby team that you want to get hammered every time.

Plus I work with a German and he is a smug little fecker when it comes to international football.


Saint Snow
08 July 2014 12:25:51


I'm 41 next week.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Ha!


When did you stop counting?


 



 


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Gooner
08 July 2014 12:33:22

Hopefully Germany absolutely humiliate them.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Im with Matty on that one

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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