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Gusty
16 July 2014 19:34:21


It is classic Duane.


What is mightily impressive is that this potential violently disruptive and damaging period of thunderstorms does not spell the end of the hot spell as is normally the case in the UK. 


Personally and from a very selfish point of view I would like to see the whole pattern back further west meaning that the heat and humidity is maintained and intensifies into next week as high pressure settles over the UK and we create our own heat pool.


 


 


Steve - Folkestone, Kent
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16 July 2014 21:16:31

The WRF-NMM model has the highest CAPE and LI figures across eastern areas and parts of the Midlands on both Friday and Saturday.


Chart for Friday 12z


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-6-48-1.png?16-18


Chart for Friday 19z - Kent looks the place to be


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-6-55-1.png?16-18


Chart for Saturday 13z


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-6-73-1.png?16-19


However, despite the high readings there is virtually no rain showing for Friday evening at all


Friday 19z http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-55-1.png?16-18


But plenty of action for Saturday with central southern areas most at risk


0z Saturday


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-60-1.png?16-18


3z Saturday


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-63-1.png?16-18


A brief pause then this at 9z Saturday


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-69-1.png?16-19


Drifting into the Midlands by lunchtime Saturday


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-73-1.png?16-19


Kent clipper Saturday evening


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-1-79-1.png?16-19

DeeDee
16 July 2014 21:40:33
Haha lovely Alex Deaking must have been reading this thread ! He said 'DO NOT write off your weekend yet! Just be aware some very violent thunderstorms may cause disruption '

Harpenden, Herts.
Medlock Vale Weather
16 July 2014 22:23:58


The WRF-NMM model has the highest CAPE and LI figures across eastern areas and parts of the Midlands on both Friday and Saturday.


Chart for Friday 12z


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmm-6-48-1.png?16-18


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


The -6 cape gets as far west as Liverpool too. But yes it does look more likely across eastern areas for the time being.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014071612/nmmuk-6-51-0.png?16-19


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Crepuscular Ray
17 July 2014 06:12:20

Haha lovely Alex Deaking must have been reading this thread ! He said 'DO NOT write off your weekend yet! Just be aware some very violent thunderstorms may cause disruption '

Originally Posted by: DeeDee 



Unfortunately he also mentioned the cool NE, 17 in Aberdeen and 19 in Newcastle when it's 31 in London! My worry is that the hot thundery spell won't reach these areas...I'll be tuned in to TWO though!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Stormchaser
17 July 2014 08:33:09

http://estofex.org/


A Level 2 in the Bay of Biscay with a Level 1 covering the SW'rn third of the UK.


From the discussion:


"Due to strongest large scale lift ahead of the approaching trough and near a cold front that enters the area from the west, storms are forecast across the central Bay of Biscay during the day that will spread northward in the afternoon and evening. Due to strong vertical wind shear below a low-level jet ahead of the cold front, storms will merge to a broad MCS that moves into the southern British Isles during the evening and night hours. The main threat will be severe winds along the leading gust front. Large or even very large hail is forecast especially with more discrete cells over France, but is also not ruled out with the MCS that enters the British Isles. Excessive rain is not too likely as the system moves northward quickly. Moreover, tornadoes may be possible given the strong low-level vertical wind shear. The main limiting factor is the weak buoyancy of the boundary layer over the British Isles"


 


All the exciting bits are in bold... along with that last line that represents the absolutely typical situation that can result an imported MCS decaying as it arrives - however with minimums in the high teens widely, there looks to my eye to be a reasonable chance of it holding together for at least a time across the Level 1 area.


Just being cautious is all 


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Charmhills
17 July 2014 08:33:52

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack1a.gif



Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Stormchaser
17 July 2014 09:35:17

The focal point for storms has been edging slightly west with each new set of model runs... this hasn't been seen for many, many years, and the reason why is because what we're looking at is a different breed of plume to those of the past 6 years or so;


Plumes in recent years, and also the one early in June this year, have featured a relatively weak ridge across Europe and a trough either to the south or west. The trough progresses N/NE then NE over the ridge, and tends to do so a little more quickly than the models initially predict, resulting in a shift east in the plume and region of greatest thunderstorm potential.


This one, however, features a robust block building to the NE, and this is something the models tend to underestimate at range, with corrections being towards more of a push from the east which then shifts the plume and highest thunderstorm potential west.


It's also the reason for temperatures in the S/SE not being knocked down below the mid-20's after the plume has cleared, and it currently looks like the block will then combine with a ridge from the SW to serve as a catalyst for some appreciable home-grown heat 


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Charmhills
17 July 2014 10:19:06

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_warnings.html


Updated watches are out and extend into Sunday for eastern areas.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
The Beast from the East
17 July 2014 12:40:30

Looks like Eastern areas will escape the worst of it now and temps upgraded for Saturday. We may wonder what all the fuss was about


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RUBBERDUCK
17 July 2014 12:59:38

Estofex seem to have located the worst of the weather across northwest France and into the channel...


www.estofex.com


 


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Arcus
17 July 2014 13:47:38
The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
nsrobins
17 July 2014 14:26:44

Some storms possible this evening in teh S and SW spreading into W Midlands on the initial area now entering the Channel.


The significant plume event occurs Fri night/Sat and most models now depict an outbreak of storms moving S to N.


Details of storm mode to come but to be sure someone is going to 'enjoy' a right banger in the next few days.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Nordic Snowman
17 July 2014 14:49:39
Could catch a storm in the early hours tonight Neil - in our neck of the woods. Wouldn't rule it out. ⚡
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Islander
17 July 2014 15:06:37

The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Hoping they hit me bang on, but they may be a little westward for my liking - fingers crossed I'll keep you posted! 


Guernsey
Arcus
17 July 2014 15:17:15


The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Islander 


 


Hoping they hit me bang on, but they may be a little westward for my liking - fingers crossed I'll keep you posted! 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Yes, the motion vector will tend to become more NNW as they move up, but there are more storms firing to the east of them so you may yet see something from them.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Islander
17 July 2014 15:23:30



The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Hoping they hit me bang on, but they may be a little westward for my liking - fingers crossed I'll keep you posted! 


Originally Posted by: Islander 


Yes, the motion vector will tend to become more NNW as they move up, but there are more storms firing to the east of them so you may yet see something from them.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Excellent!! Nice high cloud has just set in, can see where it's coming from on the roof of my work. You might just be right.... 


Guernsey
Arcus
17 July 2014 16:49:18

The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


The MetO seem to think it's worthy of a warning


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings


 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Charmhills
17 July 2014 17:28:22

BBC weather; thunderstorms moving into Wales and the Midlands overnight with some torrential downpours in places.


32 possibly 33c in the south but heavy thunderstorms moving north tomorrow night and though the Day on Saturday moving north in clusters, hot and humid, 27 to 28c.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
nsrobins
17 July 2014 17:35:44


The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


The MetO seem to think it's worthy of a warning


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings


 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Euro4 and WRF have them further East than teh MetO graphic into Hants/Dorset too moving into S Midlands early hours.


Friday night is the main event IMO


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
bledur
17 July 2014 17:35:51




The clutch of storms moving northward over Brest are pretty electrically active. Interesting to see if they maintain their strength as the chug across the Channel.

Originally Posted by: Islander 


 


Hoping they hit me bang on, but they may be a little westward for my liking - fingers crossed I'll keep you posted! 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Yes, the motion vector will tend to become more NNW as they move up, but there are more storms firing to the east of them so you may yet see something from them.


Originally Posted by: Islander 


Excellent!! Nice high cloud has just set in, can see where it's coming from on the roof of my work. You might just be right.... 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Yes i thought the storms would move NNW  but i just saw the BBC weather and it showed the storms moving further east in the night but soon clearing.

Medlock Vale Weather
17 July 2014 17:50:32

I think some of us may be awakened over the next couple of nights to the sound of thunder!


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Matty H
17 July 2014 18:27:04
Ian Fergusson on Points West seemed to suggest the Amber alerts could possibly go red. He said "The Amber alerts could be escalated further"

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