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21 August 2014 09:32:41

it looks like this August will go down as one of the coolest and depressing on record albeit not the wettest. it will be interesting to see when the stats are in at the end of mponth if these observations are correct.
As for September , athough too early to call a shot, I wouldnt be a bit surprised if these abysmal conditions continued at least till mid September. The upcoming bank holiday looks uninspiring especially in the North with Monday countrywide a total write off for fair weather lovers....

Originally Posted by: cultman1 



You can't have been around in 1985 and 86 then. This August is arid and warm compared to those years.

Gavin P
21 August 2014 14:56:53

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


More On BCC Winter 14/15 Forecast


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Just clearing up a few questions from last weeks update. Also looking at the weather in next week to ten days - Which takes us exactly to the last day of summer.


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
Essan
21 August 2014 15:29:28


Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


More On BCC Winter 14/15 Forecast


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Just clearing up a few questions from last weeks update. Also looking at the weather in next week to ten days - Which takes us exactly top the last day of summer.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



I thought that was 2 weeks ago?


Andy
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Gavin P
21 August 2014 16:00:43



Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


More On BCC Winter 14/15 Forecast


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Just clearing up a few questions from last weeks update. Also looking at the weather in next week to ten days - Which takes us exactly top the last day of summer.


Originally Posted by: Essan 



I thought that was 2 weeks ago?


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



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GIBBY
22 August 2014 07:21:48

HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM 8AM TODAY FRIDAY AUGUST 22ND 2014.


THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION. A cool NW flow will slowly give way to a ridge of High pressure moving slowly towards the UK from the West tomorrow.


MODELS-2 WEEK HEADLINE  Mostly changeable weather with a mix of cloudy and rainy periods alternating with showers and occasionally dry and brighter conditions, these looking increasingly likely across the South. Rather breezy and cool at times but warmer in the South with time.


THE JET STREAM FORECAST The very slack Jet Stream flow at present will become rather stronger as next week progresses with it's location remaining close to Southern Britain for much of the period though there is some evidence that it may drift further North towards Northern Scotland for a time.


GFS The GFS operational this morning shows changeable conditions across the UK over the next few weeks. Weakening Low pressure commences this theme from early next week before a mix of High pressure ridges close to the South at times alternates with further Low pressure and troughs crossing chiefly Northern Britain at times too. This sets up rather warmer conditions over the South than recently with some warm sunshine in places with some rain at times too. The GFS Ensembles endorse this viewpoint too with HIgh pressure never far away to the South ensuring the most frequent and heaviest rainfall occurs across the North and West with the driest weather in the South and East. Importantly too all areas should become rather less cool and indeed rather warm in the SE at times.


UKMO UKMO this morning shows slack cyclonic conditions across the UK early next week with a mix of outbreaks of rain and showers for a time before a drier interlude is followed by a freshening of wind and approaching rain from the West by soon after midweek as Atlantic Low pressure moves in.


THE FAX CHARTS The Fax Charts show complex and weakening Low pressure as we move into the early days of next week following this weekends ridge and attendant fine but cool weather.


GEM The GEM operational today looks very much more unsettled as Low pressure digs across the heart of the UK on occasion with rain and showers at times for all. It's not until very late in the run towards Day 10 that High pressure slowly builds into the UK from the SW. 


NAVGEM NAVGEM looks a little like UKMO this morning with the early weeks weakening Low giving way to a benign midweek spell before Low pressure returns from the West by the end of next week with more breeze and rain at times for all. 


ECM The ECM operational shows a different scenario to last night's operational at the end by improvong conditions across the UK from the SW following a changeable week with rain at times and a few drier quiet and brighter interludes too in temperatures largely near to average without ever being remarkable.


NOTABLE TREND CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS RUNS The runs remain indecisive on conditions beyond 5 days out with no definitive reliable trend shown.


MY THOUGHTS  Changeable is the word I would use to sum up this mornings output with all parts of the UK likely to see occasional bouts of rain and sometimes breeze too. The most changeable conditions look most likely across the North and West and while not all model output shows improvements from the South in a big way some do with the best chance of fine and dry weather at times most likely across the South and East. One thing that does seem a common denominator between the output is that with winds settling more from a west or SW point rather than the NW wind we have had of late it should become less chilly and possibly rather warm at times in the SE. It looks unlikely that there will be any long lasting UK wide fine weather through the next few weeks but on the other side of the coin no unusually wet or windy weather seems likely anywhere either.


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Gavin P
22 August 2014 13:45:21

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


JMA Friday- Month Ahead + Three Monthly Update


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Interesting that the JMA is at odds with itiself a little bit in this update.


 


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DEW
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23 August 2014 06:59:18

Is that another ex-hurricane making its way into the N Atlantic at T+204 on the GFS00Z?


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx


If so, it's a bold prediction as forecasters aren't even sure if invest 96L will (a) even develop into Cristobal (it probably will) and (b) whether it will then continue on through the Gulf of Mexico or shoot up the US coast, as per the GFS above.


With major uncertainties like this, forecasting Atlantic weather beyond the next few days is a mug's game.


 


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Chichester 12m asl
Jiries
23 August 2014 07:09:27

Much welcome warmer weather arrivng next week and hopefully September will bring extra summer month to compensate for poor August.  Hopefully on Monday morning stay dry here as the HP still over here before it arrive late in the day.

David M Porter
23 August 2014 08:25:50

Blimey, it's quiet in here isn't it!


Looking as though it may gradually become more unsettled once the low pressure system early next week has cleared through. It will certainly be good to get some more summer-like temperatures again after the coolness of the last couple of weeks.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Phil G
23 August 2014 11:03:12
Monday looks like a real washout for England and Wales. Thereafter, there may be some heavy showers around Tuesday and Thursday before drying up as we go into the weekend.
Gavin P
23 August 2014 11:31:42

Looks like we're swinging back towards high pressure for month end and start of September.


One final September Song for summer 2014!


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ARTzeman
23 August 2014 11:37:21

Bank Holiday  Washout starts Sunday evening until Early Tuesday....... 






Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
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sizzle
23 August 2014 16:54:33


the GFS 12Z  if im right in saying looks a bit over cooked for the 5th of september,  only noticed on BUZZ as Mr brian has posted charts for 10 days away and it looks like the models are over doing it to me, but im no expert,

idj20
23 August 2014 17:44:11

I see that the latest GFS run for next Thurs/Fri had replaced that ridge-type high pressure bringing what could have been a spell of settled and possibly warm conditions for us with a crappy cut off low pressure hanging over the South East resulting in sh1tty north easterlies.
  Once again, that blocking high being anchored off to the west of the UK continues the mediocre summer at this end (certainly isn't a 1976-er, that's for sure).

Of course, at this point, it is all quite a long way off in forecasting terms and I guess that model was having a bad afternoon (edit, actually, it would be morning time what with it being an American output) and decided to take it out on us.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Medlock Vale Weather
23 August 2014 18:03:05

Looking soggy for England, Wales and NI over the next 72 hours with the accumulated rainfall chart.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014082312/nmmuk-25-72-0.png?23-19


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Whether Idle
23 August 2014 18:33:12



  Once again, that blocking high being anchored off to the west of the UK continues the mediocre summer at this end


Originally Posted by: idj20 


 


Ian, the reality in terms of sunshine and temperatures prove that this has been a cracking summer at this end, with 10th August onward being relatively cool. I shudder to think how you will describe another 2012..


Here is a link to the mapped and interpreted anomalies so you can consider your somewhat coloured perceptoins:


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/summaries


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
23 August 2014 18:51:30


Ha ha. 😉😀💦💧🌂😎🎆.

The Prospect for Active UK SW S Central and W UK all through to E and SE For Bank Holiday Monday is predicted, as the UKMO and GFS suggest it will, wet with heavy rain windy with some heavy and Thundery showers.

The Outlook for Tuesday High P. For North West and Central parts of the Country, but parts of SE half and Corner UK still wet with rain and breezy Low Pressure there.

All areas High Pressure on next Week midweek with normal to slightly above norm. Min and max. Temps. And Some clear sunny weather with light winds everywhere!.

The Models GFS and UKMO appear to want to shove in N Atlantic SE Tracking Low from our West, with Thursday's weather looking wet and breezy or windy with some heavy rain and blustery TSTSM showers and Autumnal conditions, but at first the NorthE and SouthE will be ok but quickly turn windy with rain from the West move East SE across us.

Then by Friday: both UKMO and the GFS send to SE Central England part in UK the heavy thundery showers/ longer spells rain for some, while the SW West and North plus NE turn less cool and get warm sunny conditons.., with Azores High and High to our North joining to merge up over the UK for Friday Saturday- HERALDING a spell of very warm and sunny few days, but the GFS then has NW N Atlantic and NE Azores Low move through Biscay bay track to UK NW N France as N Atlantic Low moves ENE over distant West N near UK- some of this Low areas are to affect NW Europe but bring some WNW to SE divide in weather types for the UK!.

Summer heatwave by 7 to 8 days time lasting a few days ahem.😅😆😎.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
idj20
23 August 2014 22:16:07




  Once again, that blocking high being anchored off to the west of the UK continues the mediocre summer at this end


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Ian, the reality in terms of sunshine and temperatures prove that this has been a cracking summer at this end, with 10th August onward being relatively cool. I shudder to think how you will describe another 2012..


Here is a link to the mapped and interpreted anomalies so you can consider your somewhat coloured perceptoins:


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/summaries


Originally Posted by: idj20 



Hi WI, like I said, I base it on being able to sit in the garden to top up the tan without feeling the chill or holding onto the paper to stop it from blowing away from my hands and so far this season I can count the number of times I've been able to do that on one hand. Personally, I just don't think this one is being a "memorable" summer at all, and everyone living locally here has been saying the same thing; as in "Oh, that was a short summer, what's happened?". Even the woman next door to me is a sun worshipper as she likes sitting in the garden with a good book in one hand and a spliff in the other, and she, too, found it a bit of a struggle.
 True, for the most part it has been generally "useful" where at least I've been able to potter about in the garden regularly withoout breaking out into a sweat so it hadn't been that bad. I'm sure that if I live well inland then, yes, perhaps it would be something more notable.
  Also, it has been slightly wetter than normal this season, where the lawn had stayed green all through the summer. I found myself breaking out the lawn mower almost on a weekly basis - not that it is an awful thing as I do like the green on my lawn instead of the usual browns.
  I've always said that Kent is a huge place when it comes to our climate, especially since it is surrounded by sea at three of the four compass points.

PS: Back on topic, the GFS is still showing that "cut off" feature hanging over the South East on Thursday and Friday thus keeping it cool and unsettled at this end. Even ECM isn't too far away with the idea. However, both models are also "trending" with the idea of high pressure becoming the more dominant force as we go into the first week of September. 


Folkestone Harbour. 
GIBBY
24 August 2014 08:15:59

My account of this morning's Model analysis can be found here:


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
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Charmhills
24 August 2014 09:55:21

Very changeable set of runs again today with nearly everything on offer to some degree.


However, no return to late summer yet as far as I can see for early September.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
sunny coast
24 August 2014 10:36:51




  Once again, that blocking high being anchored off to the west of the UK continues the mediocre summer at this end


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Ian, the reality in terms of sunshine and temperatures prove that this has been a cracking summer at this end, with 10th August onward being relatively cool. I shudder to think how you will describe another 2012..


Here is a link to the mapped and interpreted anomalies so you can consider your somewhat coloured perceptoins:


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/summaries


 


June was dry and warm, hardly any rain Jly was very warm and it remained so through firts third August above average sunshine but with rainfall mainly in convective form . Its been coler since but this is a good to very good summer . for bad ones look at the 1960s much of the 70s apart from 75 and 6 , and the awful augusts of 1985 and 86 and a few in the past decade too1


Originally Posted by: idj20 

Jiries
24 August 2014 10:45:54

Summer make a big come back in early September once August which now classified as Autumnal month in my views for years ge gladly exit. 


Why this happening on BH Monday after the whole summer didn't give this amount of precips?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Why on BH Monday? why is that? why it doesn't happen on Tuesday or normal weekends?  

idj20
24 August 2014 10:53:17


Summer make a big come back in early September once August which now classified as Autumnal month in my views for years ge gladly exit. 


Why this happening on BH Monday after the whole summer didn't give this amount of precips?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


Why on BH Monday? why is that? why it doesn't happen on Tuesday or normal weekends?  


Originally Posted by: Jiries 



 You're right, though. That chart does have a comedy element about it what with that huge rain spike for tomorrow. As if our climate really does take the mick sometimes.
  Oh well, I've just downloaded a number of films onto my iPad ready for connecting up to the big TV for tomorrow so I'm pretty much sorted for the day.

Also, I can "see" your idea regarding early September as the charts are still "trending" with the idea of a high-pressure dominated theme . . . oh look, just as kids are going back to school. Of course, it is very much a long way off in forecasting terms thus and very much subject to change but fingers crossed that September does turn out to be a fine month overall.


Folkestone Harbour. 
ARTzeman
24 August 2014 12:20:56


My account of this morning's Model analysis can be found here:


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


It's  blowing.... Cause the the washing is moving on Web Cam....






Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
GIBBY
24 August 2014 19:59:24


My account of this morning's Model analysis can be found here:
http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm 

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


It's blowing.... Cause the the washing is moving on Web Cam.... UserPostedImageUserPostedImageUserPostedImageUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 



Yes one of the downsides of my new location. Just treat it as a domestic version of a windsock.
Martin G
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