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GIBBY
10 September 2014 07:15:01

Our High pressure comes under attack somewhat next week but how long and how successful will such an attack last. My morning thoughts on the 00z's attempt to throw some answers.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
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micahel37
10 September 2014 08:34:11


Our High pressure comes under attack somewhat next week but how long and how successful will such an attack last. My morning thoughts on the 00z's attempt to throw some answers.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


 


Thanks martin.


 



instead will have to endure a lot of benign and quiet weather



Well it's a heavy burden to bear. 


 


Polbeth, West Lothian 150m asl
briggsy6
10 September 2014 21:55:25

Yeah, I can think of a lot worse things to have to endure!


Location: Uxbridge
Medlock Vale Weather
10 September 2014 22:04:01

Pretty good 12z's, for most of us it's basically dry for the next 7 days with above average 850 temps, but remember in these high pressure situations cloud amounts can vary widely and so can restrict temperatures on the ground.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Manchester_ens.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Dublin_ens.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


 


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What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
GIBBY
11 September 2014 07:13:48

Low pressure to the SW has been lurking for some time and today's model output indicates how much it moves NE next week to possibly affect the UK. Each models angle on this development is the main focus of this morning's report on my website.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
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Gavin P
11 September 2014 15:20:00

On the face of it, you'd say cooler and increasingly unsettled second half of September looks likely?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


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Medlock Vale Weather
11 September 2014 16:05:55


On the face of it, ytou'd say cooler and increasingly unsettled second half of September looks likely?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Looks that way Gavin - perhaps the Atlantic gearing up for 'proper' Autumn round the corner. Be nice to experience something interesting instead of this current HP borefest which has delivered a mix of dullness and hazy sun here. It has overstayed it's welcome  


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Essan
11 September 2014 17:18:27


On the face of it, you'd say cooler and increasingly unsettled second half of September looks likely?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



It is not looking much cooler for next week, especially in the south - if anything warmer with some mild nights. 


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ozone_aurora
11 September 2014 17:33:09


On the face of it, you'd say cooler and increasingly unsettled second half of September looks likely?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I hope so. It'll be nice to see some lightning display off the coast here at night if a low pressure settles over the UK.

Joe Bloggs
11 September 2014 17:58:46


On the face of it, ytou'd say cooler and increasingly unsettled second half of September looks likely?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Looks that way Gavin - perhaps the Atlantic gearing up for 'proper' Autumn round the corner. Be nice to experience something interesting instead of this current HP borefest which has delivered a mix of dullness and hazy sun here. It has overstayed it's welcome  

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



Eh? It has been beautiful for several days here!

:D

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

sizzle
11 September 2014 18:12:38

roll on winter or any weather action,    all good this weather but model watching is not much fun at the moment might see some action next week as some showers are moving in from the SW, 

Andy Woodcock
11 September 2014 20:23:51
This weather is lovely and reminds me of September 1978.

No Ramp intended!

Andy
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Penrith
Cumbria

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GIBBY
11 September 2014 22:50:58
Forgot to mention earlier but I am away with work tomorrow and Saturday so will not be doing a report in the morning but I will be doing one on the 12zs instead from about 21:00-21:30 on both days and possibly Sunday too.
Martin G
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Ally Pally Snowman
12 September 2014 07:21:58
Very warm 850s from the GFS this morning. A cet above 15c almost certain if that came off. The ECM is a little cooler though this morning.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gavin P
12 September 2014 13:59:32

Hi all,


Here's today (bumper) edition of JMA Friday:


September To December With JMA Friday


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Remember, JFF.


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Scandy 1050 MB
12 September 2014 16:24:54


Hi all,


Here's today (bumper) edition of JMA Friday:


September To December With JMA Friday


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Remember, JFF.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Thanks Gavin, let's hope the JMA December forecast is as reliable as the August one was - i.e. wrong!  That northern blocking over Greenland could be more dominant and push the jetstream further south than last year hopefully, however not good to see that area of above average heights to the northwest of the US once again. Look forward to Sunday to see if the CFS agrees with the JMA!


Back to MO, and does look like another relatively settled week next week.


 


 


 

Gooner
12 September 2014 16:29:25


Hi all,


Here's today (bumper) edition of JMA Friday:


September To December With JMA Friday


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Remember, JFF.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

#


Cheers Gavin glimmer of hope there is some blocking around Greenland, this far out it could move to something in our favour.


 


Time will tell of course


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
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sriram
12 September 2014 17:14:12

Hi all,
Here's today (bumper) edition of JMA Friday:
September To December With JMA Friday
http://www.gavsweathervids.com/ 
Remember, JFF.UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



A grim outlook for winter fans

Don't like the look of dec

I fear we might a repeat of last winter - just not as mild and wet with only brief cold

There is not much sign there of an interesting winter going by dec
Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
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DEW
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12 September 2014 17:19:42

The appearance of Edouard as a potential hurricane in mid-Atlantic means all forecasting bets for mid to late September are off until its track is clearer


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Col
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12 September 2014 17:37:37


The appearance of Edouard as a potential hurricane in mid-Atlantic means all forecasting bets for mid to late September are off until its track is clearer


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Quite.


A certain forecaster whose name cannot be mentioned found that out to his cost when his August forecast was scuppered by Bertha!


Col
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Polar Low
12 September 2014 17:39:15

Very warm later end of next week 25c given for parts of the south with high uppers cant rule a few storms either.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/temperatures-2m/144h.htm


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/temperatures-2m/168h.htm


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/850-hpa/156h.htm


 Tiny little short wave in the mix.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/pression/180h.htm


 


 

Matty H
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12 September 2014 20:27:59


The appearance of Edouard as a potential hurricane in mid-Atlantic means all forecasting bets for mid to late September are off until its track is clearer

Originally Posted by: Col 


Quite.
A certain forecaster whose name cannot be mentioned found that out to his cost when his August forecast was scuppered by Bertha!

Originally Posted by: DEW 



That was a forecast?
Stormchaser
13 September 2014 10:22:51

The consistency regarding the general area in which Edouard tracks reflects the relatively straight-forward steering currents involved. A track close to the Azores seems a good bet.


This has interesting implications for us in the UK, because at that time, we look to have relatively little going on synoptically - perhaps a weak LP drifting NE (GFS 00z), or a continuation of LP to the SW (ECM 00z). This means that our area is up for the taking, so to speak.


If Ed tracks near the Azores as depicted on most recent runs, then a ridge is likely to be promoted ahead of it, particularly if it phases with LP already located to the SW. This is a big deal, because it prevents a secondary disturbance from developing on the periphery of the main Atlantic trough and flattening the pattern - instead a new ridge is able to build NE through the UK days 8-10.


GFS then shows another spell with a cut-off low west of Iberia and a ridge through the UK while the Atlantic jet fires away well to our NW. As the cut-off low dissipates, the ridge drops south a bit and becomes what appears to be a full-blown Bartlett (there I said it!) by day 16, with an exceptionally warm scenario developing.


ECM takes a somewhat different route, dipping the Atlantic jet south towards the Azores to link with the LP down there, and producing a strong HP cell to the NE for day 10. Interestingly, Ed remains a tropical cyclone as it tracks through the Azores Islands on day 10, and its location in conjunction with the position of the dip in the jet favours a continuation of LP to the W/NW beyond that day, though perhaps a LP system could develop more to the SW again... either way it remains warmer than average across England and Wales, perhaps markedly so.


 


That would be quite an achievement considering that it looks likely to be very warm indeed from Wednesday next week for 4-7 days depending on which model you look at... we're talking mid-20's maximums widely across England and Wales with low to mid-teens minimums! 


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Stormchaser
13 September 2014 11:50:58

The 06z GFS run... seriously, that's an extraordinary sequence of events modelled there.


What's more, the evolution to day 10 is a step towards what the ECM 00z op run showed, indicating good support.


The idea of some kind of Bartlett High late in the month and some serious heat (relative to the time of year) pushing north, akin to the closing days of September 2011, is again seen.


 


Of course, there's no way we can count on such a perfect sequence of events, but at least the run of mid-20's maximums starting next Wednesday has ever-stronger support both for occurence and persistence 


 


Just for fun... the GFS 06z run gives a rough CET estimate of 16.4*C to 28th September, matching the final figure for the record holding month of 2006. If the blowtorch at the end of the run then hung on for the final two days, the final figure would be around 16.6*C, setting a new record eight years on.


Needless to say, I would enjoy that very much - so forgive me if my analysis becomes a bit blowtorch-focused during the coming week or so! 


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Stormchaser
13 September 2014 17:14:41

https://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140913/12/171/h850t850eu.png


The 12z GFS op run continues the theme of having the LP to the SW dissipate W of Iberia rather than drift NE across the UK.


We're left bathing in a warm soup with temperatures in the mid to high 20's across England and Wales 


Some home grown convection features too 


 


https://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140913/12/216/h850t850eu.png


As with previous runs, blocking then attempts to rebuild to the NE. Unlike those runs, however, this one flattens it with a powerful Atlantic storm... and yet, despite having to start anew, blocking returns with a vengence in the wake of said storm (which does little more than freshen the air down south while the north sees something more active), and yet again it builds right into Europe, akin to the last few GFS op runs in late FI.


 https://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20140913/12/384/h850t850eu.png


This sort of chart, with Sep-Oct 2011 written all over it, has appeared at the 15-16 day range on three operational runs in a row. That's a bit bizarre to be honest! 


We still can't place any real faith in it of course 


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