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Medlock Vale Weather
23 September 2014 20:27:36

Early thick snow covers parts of Finland


http://yle.fi/uutiset/thick_snowfall_covers_eastern_finland/7486834


That's it I am moving to Finland in November  , maybe by then it will be roof height 


 


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Saint Snow
23 September 2014 21:47:35




would anyone REALLY wish for  8/9 months of sub zero and ice....


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Oh, a couple of names spring to mind  


Personally, I'd be more than happy with a Dec 10 coupled with shorter (7 day?) cold/snowy spells in Jan, Feb & Mar


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Yup


All of the above will do


Originally Posted by: NDJF 


 


Yours was one of the names that sprang to mind 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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Brendon Hills Bandit
23 September 2014 21:50:39



back for the next few months, let the roller coaster begin.


looking a tad fresh, would anyone REALLY wish for  8/9 months of sub zero and ice....I love the cold and snow but in equal measure I really welcome the warmth and sun, long may summer continue...http://www.kimmirutweather.com/


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Ideally for me it would start in September, absolutely brutal with frequent blizzards with blowing & drifting snow and last until mid May with very little if any thaw, then a brief very quick warm up with Summer conditions before we get plunged back into "Winter" in September. No real seasons apart from a brief Summer and a very long brutal Winter.


Never going to happen in this country but hey! 


Originally Posted by: NDJF 


I would like that to happen in Britain too, but yes it never will, and I need to move to Siberia 


A winter like 2009/10 is only just good enough for me, but realistically that is the 8 th coldest in the CET record since 1900.  


220m asl, edge of Brendon Hills
Saint Snow
23 September 2014 21:53:28




back for the next few months, let the roller coaster begin.


looking a tad fresh, would anyone REALLY wish for  8/9 months of sub zero and ice....I love the cold and snow but in equal measure I really welcome the warmth and sun, long may summer continue...http://www.kimmirutweather.com/


Originally Posted by: Brendon Hills Bandit 


Ideally for me it would start in September, absolutely brutal with frequent blizzards with blowing & drifting snow and last until mid May with very little if any thaw, then a brief very quick warm up with Summer conditions before we get plunged back into "Winter" in September. No real seasons apart from a brief Summer and a very long brutal Winter.


Never going to happen in this country but hey! 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


I would like that to happen in Britain too, but yes it never will,


Originally Posted by: NDJF 


 


If Yellowstone goes off, we'd likely have a chance!



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
some faraway beach
23 September 2014 22:35:47
Stormchaser:
"The SST-based prediction is particularly interesting, as I believe that the current situation of anomalously low SSTs around the Azores and anomalously warm SSTs to the SW, S and SE of that region has been a primary factor in driving trough development in the middle of the North Atlantic over the past few months, producing the frequent Atlantic trough + Euro/Scandi High combinations that we've seen.

"Take that on into winter, add a driving force to enhance the blocking from Greenland to Svalbard, and you've got a recipe for storms tracking into Iberia/the Med. and interacting with cold continental air near or over the UK."
________________________________________

The current situation around the Azores is nicely shown as you describe it on this map:
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom_new.gif 

And the Met Office model suggests a similar set-up may persist into the winter:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/images/prob_ensemble/20140901/2cat_20140901_sst_months46_global_deter_public.png 

Would be nice to spend a winter without having to watch a persistent Azores high scuppering any attempts by the jet to dive south of the UK.

2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
tallyho_83
24 September 2014 09:57:42
Usually cold USA/EASTERN Canada MEANS A MILDER WINTER for Western Europe!!!


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Rob K
24 September 2014 11:56:45


Hi all,


Terry Scholey has dropped in with some thoughts for the rest of autumn and Winter 14/15


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/terryscholey.html


Hope you find this interesting.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Frosts early and late, then? 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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ARTzeman
24 September 2014 12:33:31

Thanks Gavin..


 


Mild is great...


 


So is the  snow word......


....






Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
Gavin P
24 September 2014 12:41:03



Hi all,


Terry Scholey has dropped in with some thoughts for the rest of autumn and Winter 14/15


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/terryscholey.html


Hope you find this interesting.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Frosts early and late, then? 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 



Rural West Northants 120m asl
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Cumbrian Snowman
24 September 2014 15:19:23

Snow has now started to fall in Finland today, first of the season I think -  This is Pyha


 


http://ski.pyha.fi/slopes/?file=webkamerat_pyha


Its just north of the Arctic Circle, I visited here in January and had an excellent weeks stay


Always keeping an eye on the weather as a result 


 


Skreever
24 September 2014 17:01:50
http://www.suomenlatu.org/~kiilopaakamera/ 

Coming down here in Saariselka as well. Kiilopaa a small hill in national park.

And so it begins.
Veteran of winter of 62/63
By Scapa Flow, Orkney
Gooner
24 September 2014 18:09:13

^^^^^^^^^ And so it begins^^^^^^^


What being tormented


 



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


pdiddy
24 September 2014 20:42:16


^^^^^^^^^ And so it begins^^^^^^^


What being tormented


 



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfse_cartes.php?ech=2874&code=0&carte=1&mode=0&run=0


surely it's not just me getting excited about Jan 26th??


sam1998
24 September 2014 21:18:10
My prediction is that it will be colder than last winter but we will see rain every now and then. I think January could be a cold month. December story around average and February around average with 1 cold spell.
picturesareme
24 September 2014 22:22:13
There was costal snow cover for arctic Norway earlier this week.

http://weather.cs.uit.no/cgi-bin/wtstat?time=201409220000&type=day&camera.x=382&camera.y=18 
Chunky Pea
25 September 2014 00:27:36

Would gladly take a repeat of last year's boisterousness,  though preferably a lot more ummph in those Atlantic storms than was the case in Winter 2013-2014 as they were, by standards here in Ireland at least, pretty limp affairs.  Would also like to see something akin to 1947, with frequent easterly gales & blizzards.  Something I hope I never see again is repeat of Winter 2009-2010. While consistently very cold and frosty, it was also consistently boring.


 


Cold or mild,  I'll take anything this coming winter as long as there is vigour in it.


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Jonesy
25 September 2014 10:29:12


Would gladly take a repeat of last year's boisterousness,  though preferably a lot more ummph in those Atlantic storms than was the case in Winter 2013-2014 as they were, by standards here in Ireland at least, pretty limp affairs.  Would also like to see something akin to 1947, with frequent easterly gales & blizzards.  Something I hope I never see again is repeat of Winter 2009-2010. While consistently very cold and frosty, it was also consistently boring.


 


Cold or mild,  I'll take anything this coming winter as long as there is vigour in it.


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


I don't think us in the South East would, it was anightmare with flooding everywhere and constant rain for days on end at times..... Would be moe than happy with some cold, crisp and sunny days even if no snow.


Medway Towns (Kent)
The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !
Lionel Hutz
25 September 2014 12:17:57


Would gladly take a repeat of last year's boisterousness,  though preferably a lot more ummph in those Atlantic storms than was the case in Winter 2013-2014 as they were, by standards here in Ireland at least, pretty limp affairs.  Would also like to see something akin to 1947, with frequent easterly gales & blizzards.  Something I hope I never see again is repeat of Winter 2009-2010. While consistently very cold and frosty, it was also consistently boring.


 


Cold or mild,  I'll take anything this coming winter as long as there is vigour in it.


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


You're joking, right? I'm not sure where you are in Ireland, but we had some horrendous and destructive storms down here. Any more ummph and we'd have been blown away.


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Captaincroc
25 September 2014 17:52:51
Hi all.

I have read on a few Tweets this week that the long range models are pointing towards a blocked winter... but I remember this time last year and seeing a lot of 'reds' (high pressure) over Greenland forecast, dark reds in fact, but we ended up having a stupidly mild and unsettled winter. I remember getting excited about it but then it failed to manifest, the opposite infact! haha. After that I really don't trust them. I know they are a guideline but they were far off the mark. :)


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Medlock Vale Weather
25 September 2014 18:27:47

IIRC it was the Beijing/Chinese long range model that predicted last Winter would be wetter than average over NW Europe and the UK. I don't think many others showed this.


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Whether Idle
25 September 2014 18:31:18

Hi all.

I have read on a few Tweets this week that the long range models are pointing towards a blocked winter... but I remember this time last year and seeing a lot of 'reds' (high pressure) over Greenland forecast, dark reds in fact, but we ended up having a stupidly mild and unsettled winter. I remember getting excited about it but then it failed to manifest, the opposite infact! haha. After that I really don't trust them. I know they are a guideline but they were far off the mark. :)

Originally Posted by: Captaincroc 


Wotcha Captain. Last year most of the winter LRFs were embarrassingly inaccurate. Most went for average temperatures. We ended with the wettest winter and 4th mildest. These LRFs are sometimes a guideline to what the winter WILL NOT be. They should not be taken seriously to be sure.

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Chunky Pea
25 September 2014 23:08:23


You're joking, right?


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


No, I am not.


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Whether Idle
26 September 2014 18:42:29

My prediction is that it will be colder than last winter but we will see rain every now and then. I think January could be a cold month. December story around average and February around average with 1 cold spell.

Originally Posted by: sam1998 


If it isn't colder than last winter I wont need to turn my heating on at all


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Brendon Hills Bandit
27 September 2014 10:43:58
The CFS model seems to have been pretty consistent in forecasting a low pressure anomaly below Alaska for the winter months, of course it was high pressure here last winter that caused the extensive cold for the US last winter.
220m asl, edge of Brendon Hills
Medlock Vale Weather
27 September 2014 16:53:15

"Winter" looks like it will be here to stay now in Siberia. Nice weather coming up.


-19C as a low in October aint bad  http://classic.wunderground.com/global/stations/24688.html


And will only intensify as we move into the latter part of October and beyond!


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 

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