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Col
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06 December 2014 11:38:42


 


And just for fun.


http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/banbury


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


I think there might be some flooding on the 13th.....


Col
Bolton, Lancashire
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Gooner
06 December 2014 11:48:34


 


 


I think there might be some flooding on the 13th.....


Originally Posted by: Col 


Not in Banbury , 5cm of snow


 


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The Beast from the East
06 December 2014 12:07:03

Again no sign of northern blocking. Beyond the potential brief northerly next weekend, it looks like the Azores high will return to its normal position. Yes, its better than this time last year, but unless you live in Scotland I cant see anything wintry


 


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Chiltern Blizzard
06 December 2014 12:11:29


 


Not in Banbury , 5cm of snow


 


J F F


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


 


Forecast shows 14cm if I'm reading it right?  Of course JFF


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Joe Bloggs
06 December 2014 12:13:15


Again no sign of northern blocking. Beyond the potential brief northerly next weekend, it looks like the Azores high will return to its normal position. Yes, its better than this time last year, but unless you live in Scotland I cant see anything wintry


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A lazy post IMO. 


Yes I appreciate you're a southern fairy, but check out the latest forecast for Buxton, England. It presents a very wintry picture. 



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The Beast from the East
06 December 2014 12:16:20


 


A lazy post IMO. 


Yes I appreciate you're a southern fairy, but check out the latest forecast for Buxton, England. It presents a very wintry picture. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Wintry for brief period before westerly based zonality returns. There is no northern blocking on the horizon which is the only way for a sustained cold spell and for us southerners to get any snow


 


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Joe Bloggs
06 December 2014 12:26:59


 


Wintry for brief period before westerly based zonality returns. There is no northern blocking on the horizon which is the only way for a sustained cold spell and for us southerners to get any snow


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Again, another lazy post.


The outlook as it currently stands is a predominately WNW'ly based zonal picture with amplication of the Azores High into the mid Atlantic.


This setup in itself can bring wintry conditions to hills in England, as well as surprise snowfalls to lower levels too on occasion.


This is not a Scotland - only situation, and it certainly won't be if the 06z GFS verifies.


 



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Jonesy
06 December 2014 12:30:20


 


A lazy post IMO. 


Yes I appreciate you're a southern fairy, but check out the latest forecast for Buxton, England. It presents a very wintry picture. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


I don't appreciate you using the term Southern Fairy you Northern Monkey named after a failed clothing brand 


Anyway, next Saturday I might venture Westwards slightly  


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=-&VAR=rart&HH=180&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD=


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Joe Bloggs
06 December 2014 12:31:38


 


I don't appreciate you using the term Southern Fairy you Northern Monkey named after a failed clothing brand 


Anyway, next Saturday I might venture Westwards slightly  


http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=-&VAR=rart&HH=180&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD=


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


hahahaah :D


Only referring to Beast ;-)


Anyway I forget I'm not an admin anymore so I should probably wind my neck in. 


 



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RobN
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06 December 2014 12:45:08


This setup in itself can bring wintry conditions to hills in England,


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


No argument with that.



as well as surprise snowfalls to lower levels too on occasion.


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Surprise would be an massive understatement. I've never experienced as much as a single snowflake IMBY where the "Risque neige" is 10% or less which is what is showing at the moment.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Medlock Vale Weather
06 December 2014 13:01:45

Dropped to 60% risk now for IMBY Monday morning. Was 90% on yesterdays 12z.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2014120606/graphe6_1000_250_40___.gif


 


 


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JACKO4EVER
06 December 2014 13:03:46


Again no sign of northern blocking. Beyond the potential brief northerly next weekend, it looks like the Azores high will return to its normal position. Yes, its better than this time last year, but unless you live in Scotland I cant see anything wintry


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Quite agree, away from Northern hills it looks poor for prolonged wintry weather prospects. AZ HP still a dominant player.

Joe Bloggs
06 December 2014 13:08:59


 


No argument with that.


 


Surprise would be an massive understatement. I've never experienced as much as a single snowflake IMBY where the "Risque neige" is 10% or less which is what is showing at the moment.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Yes the projected setup is certainly not likely to result in a snow fest for East Anglia that's for sure. 


These WNW'ly setups always place the emphasis on Western and Central Scotland, Northern Ireland and NW England.


I think (as ever) Gibby's analysis sums things up perfectly today - I do think there is room for cautious optimism.



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jondg14
06 December 2014 13:09:33


 


The outlook as it currently stands is a predominately WNW'ly based zonal picture with amplication of the Azores High into the mid Atlantic.


This setup in itself can bring wintry conditions to hills in England, as well as surprise snowfalls to lower levels too on occasion.


This is not a Scotland - only situation, and it certainly won't be if the 06z GFS verifies.


 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Spot on! December 2011 gave plenty of lowland England some snow. You wouldn't have necessarily expected it from first glance at the charts...


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/reana/2011/archives-2011-12-14-12-0.png

Saint Snow
06 December 2014 13:14:42

A broadly similar set-up to Xmas Day 2004, which delivered us a festive 3-4cm deep mix of snow and snow pellet early afternoon (and a plunging temp as the skies cleared in the evening - the roads turning to sheets of ice)


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2004/Rrea00120041225.gif



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doctormog
06 December 2014 13:17:48


 


Quite agree, away from Northern hills it looks poor for prolonged wintry weather prospects. AZ HP still a dominant player.


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Especially for the Azores 


Zubzero
06 December 2014 13:24:39


 


No argument with that.


 


Surprise would be an massive understatement. I've never experienced as much as a single snowflake IMBY where the "Risque neige" is 10% or less which is what is showing at the moment.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


We wont get much rain here, let alone any snow from this set up. 


For the majority, some patchy frost, is the most wintry weather, we will see in the next week or so.

bledur
06 December 2014 14:15:55

On the cool side ,but not very cold Some precipitation there so probably snow on the hills.


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Fothergill
06 December 2014 14:29:13

The charts are looking typical December fare to me. Wintriness in the north and on the mountains, wind, rain, showers, hail, temps close to average. At least we should be getting some interesting weather after a very dull 3 weeks or so!


Looking at the ensemble means and anomalies I don't see much sign of widespread proper cold-snow this side of Christmas. The most likely route for a cold snap looks to be a northerly toppler or perhaps a more sustained northerly from a mid-Atlantic high. The setup doesn't look conducive to an Ely/NEly anytime soon.

Quantum
06 December 2014 14:34:46

We are very close to something interesting here, look where the magic 552 line is:


Netweather GFS Image


Just slightly further north and we have ourselves a greenland block!


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
JACKO4EVER
06 December 2014 15:16:18


 


Especially for the Azores 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


is there a planned transfer to the unfancied Greenland in the offing LOL ??

Whether Idle
06 December 2014 17:47:54

UKMO goes for a northerly at 144 hrs.  Not hugely cold or long lived I expect but a northerly.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
David M Porter
06 December 2014 17:59:21


 


is there a planned transfer to the unfancied Greenland in the offing LOL ??


Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


One never knows.


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squish
06 December 2014 18:31:27
The Beast from the East
06 December 2014 18:51:30

brief but potent cold snap from ECM. Unfortunately no sign of pressure building in the right places


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