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tallyho_83
27 December 2014 23:23:42

Hope it's ok to create this new topic like what we had last year and previous one!?


No snow here in the SW or SOUTH as far as I know - it will be dry until New Years Day then back to square one for at least another week. So a disappointing cold wintry spell for many parts of the south.


 


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ARTzeman
27 December 2014 23:33:07

No Snow ..not disappointing as long as we have a  white frost or TWO.  People can put up with that  but not the snow panic... 






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Matty H
27 December 2014 23:36:16

Nothing here. Nothing last year either. Having been absolutely buried on numerous occasions in the preceding two winters I think I've used my quota up. 


Elstevio
27 December 2014 23:44:11
Posted elsewhere but it's bugging me?

Missed out on everything winter wise it seems the last 24 hrs. 27mm of rain since 10pm Boxing Day. High of 6c today and stuck on 4c since 7pm despite clear conditions. Weird thing is grass temp -1c. Local airport readings back air temp up. Why are we not heading down to 0c with clear skies? Wind speed? Please excuse my ignorance.


Aylsham, North Norfolk
tallyho_83
27 December 2014 23:52:43

I guess depending on how you see it - it's a nuisance for some but frustrating and disappointing for others - Even more so given the fact that parts of the UK that weren't forecasted to get more that a mixture of sleet and snow ended up with several inches or more. Liverpool being a prime example!? Since when was Liverpool forecasted several inches of snow...and it's coastal!? Hope you all enjoyed the snow up north and in Sheffield (if you liked it).

Now the snow has gone to the Alps - But the Alps have been lacking snow all month and need it.

At least on the positive side we have a good few more nights of proper wintery cold & frosty weather and some clear and crisp days ahead. It should kill the bugs and pests.
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Jonesy
28 December 2014 00:58:53
Nothing here, Boxing Day started a chilly 3*c then at about 4pm we had rain and the temps hit a balmy 8*c by 11pm.

Yesterday ( Saturday ) was a chilly 3*c most of the day & apart from a few spits of rain late afternoon it was dry & dull.

Annoying that we now have a NE'ly but no preciptation & a clear crisp night.

Oh well 2 months of Winter still remain :-D

Got a feeling that early Spring will be annoyingly cold till mid April.....just to rub salt in!
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Medlock Vale Weather
28 December 2014 01:09:09


Nothing here. Nothing last year either. Having been absolutely buried on numerous occasions in the preceding two winters I think I've used my quota up. 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Yes same with me here, Winter 2012-13 was great and I had a cheeky laugh at people in other areas of the North West that didn't get much or were bizarrely unlucky, I even had a covering of snow earlier this year on Feb 11th briefly. So I think the joke is on me now! 


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tallyho_83
28 December 2014 01:15:00


 


Yes same with me here, Winter 2012-13 was great and I had a cheeky laugh at people in other areas of the North West that didn't get much or were bizarrely unlucky, I even had a covering of snow earlier this year on Feb 11th briefly. So I think the joke is on me now! 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Any snow on Boxing day!? - Just thought if only that snow had fallen a day earlier then some places could have recorded their first ever white Christmas in almost a decade!?


 


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Andy Woodcock
28 December 2014 02:29:51
Many of you had a good winter 2012/13 but here it was pants so the near zero score for this winter so far means East Cumbria takes the booby prize.

Since the great winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11 the snow record here has been terrible and as bad (or worse) than anything in the 1990,s.

For an area that has above average snow days (compared to other parts of England) the past 4 years have been pathetic and taken together the most snowless since records began in 1903.

Top that!!

Andy
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Whether Idle
28 December 2014 06:40:47

Poor model output which ever way you look at it although to read the hope casting and techno garbage over on the Netweather model output thread you would think the output was fantastic.

There is trend IMO to overdo the 'upstream connections' MJO 'Strat Warming' etc signals to locate the next big freeze which is always just over the horizon, funny how the guys in Exeter never see the same 'potential' on their daily MRF updates.

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Well said.  We will be in a zonal rut.  January yet again seems incapable of producing any meaningful northern blocking which brings us our coldest weather in winter.  The default flat zonal westerly looks like going into overdrive.  The demise of this opportunity to produce lasting blocking will have consequences that last for many weeks IMHO.  The last week of January and beyond will be the next opportunity for this winter to deliver a flake or two for many millions of folk, and an air frost, once this colder snap is over.


In my view, this has been a pivotal week in the story of winter 2014-15.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Retron
28 December 2014 07:01:50

A couple of light rain showers (with 850s of -7C) finished off the slim chance of snow here. At least there are few cold days to come (which will have meant a short cold spell rather than a cold snap), then it's back to zonal mush. There are, as always, tentative signs of a colder plunge (this morning's ECM has one at 216) but I'll not get my hopes up as long as the ensembles scream "zonal"!


Leysdown, north Kent
Ally Pally Snowman
28 December 2014 08:21:29

Yes crap here as well even the flurry that some of Hertfordshire got last night we missed out on. Plenty of winter left but the outlook looks very poor at the moment for the South.


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KevBrads1
28 December 2014 08:22:29

Many of you had a good winter 2012/13 but here it was pants so the near zero score for this winter so far means East Cumbria takes the booby prize.

Since the great winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11 the snow record here has been terrible and as bad (or worse) than anything in the 1990,s.

For an area that has above average snow days (compared to other parts of England) the past 4 years have been pathetic and taken together the most snowless since records began in 1903.

Top that!!

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


That reminds me....


10th anniversary coming up of you famously writing of a winter and that was early February too boot.....🏆👱


 


 


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future_is_orange
28 December 2014 08:54:36

Many of you had a good winter 2012/13 but here it was pants so the near zero score for this winter so far means East Cumbria takes the booby prize.

Since the great winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11 the snow record here has been terrible and as bad (or worse) than anything in the 1990,s.

For an area that has above average snow days (compared to other parts of England) the past 4 years have been pathetic and taken together the most snowless since records began in 1903.

Top that!!

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Coastal Ayrshire snowless capital of Scotland....even in the great cold winters 09/10 10/11 we managed only a cple of inches. Since then a passing shower..snowless so far this winter. Cold westerlies or northwesterlies do not cut it here either just days of cold rain and flooding as occurred last week.

RobN
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28 December 2014 09:15:47

Here we are in the middle of the first, much analysed and discussed, alleged "cold spell" of the winter and my location couldn't even scrape an air frost last night - the min was +0.4C.


To describe this as a "cold spell" in the depths of winter is truly laughable. I've had better cold spells here in October before now. 


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
ARTzeman
28 December 2014 09:19:28

-1.1c with frost toady is the whitest yet..  No 'dam'  snow.....






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Others just get wet.
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ghawes
28 December 2014 09:45:11
Last measurable snowfall (1cm or more on the ground) here was 4 years ago (Dec 2010). 2011/12, 2013/14 & 2014/15 to date featured no lying snow at all. 2012/13 saw a couple of dustings but barely enough to whiten the ground, let alone measure the depth.

I'm giving future is orange stiff competition for most snowless Scottish location on the forum. 😉
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future_is_orange
28 December 2014 10:08:56


Here we are in the middle of the first, much analysed and discussed, alleged "cold spell" of the winter and my location couldn't even scrape an air frost last night - the min was +0.4C.


To describe this as a "cold spell" in the depths of winter is truly laughable. I've had better cold spells here in October before now. 


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Laughable ....I agree just like the bbc headlines temp plunge below freezing !! A uk low of -5c is hardly headline news.

richardabdn
28 December 2014 10:25:24

Many of you had a good winter 2012/13 but here it was pants so the near zero score for this winter so far means East Cumbria takes the booby prize.

Since the great winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11 the snow record here has been terrible and as bad (or worse) than anything in the 1990,s.

For an area that has above average snow days (compared to other parts of England) the past 4 years have been pathetic and taken together the most snowless since records began in 1903.

Top that!!

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Exactly the same situation here. We have had no decent snowfall since December 2010 despite being the UK's snowiest city. 2012/13 was rubbish. Only had a couple of good days in January before easterlies ruined it and March 2013 was pathetic. Anytime snow lay it was usually gone within a couple of hours. Just a horrid grey cold miserable month.


I thought 2011 was as awful as things could get with only 4 days of lying snow but this latest run eclipses anything in the record books. Nothing lying here since 19th November 2013 and that was only a pitiful barely measurable dusting that was gone within an hour or two. The last time snow lay throughout the day was 13th March 2013 - nearly two years ago. The year 2014 has managed only 7 days with falling snow/sleet. The late 80s/ early 90s never came close to matching this drought.


This winter so far is dire. The most relentlessly zonal I can recall. Even months like December 2011 managed a 36-hour northerly but this month has seen no wind at all from the north or east. Consequently no snow or barely any rain - just 18mm making it the driest month since March 2012 and December is the last month I would want to see the driest of the year


 


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Retron
28 December 2014 10:28:46


To describe this as a "cold spell" in the depths of winter is truly laughable. I've had better cold spells here in October before now. 


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Maybe you have, but it is a "cold spell" whether or not you agree.


The models picked this out a couple of weeks ago and it's still going to be a week of below-average temperatures. It may not be howling easterlies and powder snow but it is at least a spell of weather with below-average temperatures - noteworthy given just how relentlessly mild/warm this year has been so far.


And I'd have killed for this sort of cold weather last winter, during which it was completely absent down here.


Leysdown, north Kent
richardabdn
28 December 2014 10:30:25


Here we are in the middle of the first, much analysed and discussed, alleged "cold spell" of the winter and my location couldn't even scrape an air frost last night - the min was +0.4C.


To describe this as a "cold spell" in the depths of winter is truly laughable. I've had better cold spells here in October before now. 


Originally Posted by: RobN 


No frost here either last night. Min of +0.3C. Just an absolute joke. We have had so much clear skies this month we should have chalked up over 20 frosts. Reality just 10, most of them shallow and short-lived of the type you would expect to get in April, because of unrelenting wind. Never known anything like it. Used to be the case that wind would drop out after sunset. Now it actually increases in strength


I have hated everything about 2014. Sadly no sign at the moment that 2015 is going to start any better 


 


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Caz
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28 December 2014 10:34:13

Many of you had a good winter 2012/13 but here it was pants so the near zero score for this winter so far means East Cumbria takes the booby prize.

Since the great winters of 2009/10 and 2010/11 the snow record here has been terrible and as bad (or worse) than anything in the 1990,s.

For an area that has above average snow days (compared to other parts of England) the past 4 years have been pathetic and taken together the most snowless since records began in 1903.

Top that!!

Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Oh Andy!  Your posts never fail to stir sympathy with me.  It's hard to believe you still haven't had snow - well, I do believe you of course but you know what I mean.  I remember your posts of previous winters and I just can't imagine Cumbria without snow.  Here's hoping you get some soon! 


Sorry guys, I don't think I'll be allowed on this thread, seeing as we're under several cms of white stuff. 


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idj20
28 December 2014 10:41:52

Since I only got to see splodgy wet sleet for all of 30 seconds yesterday evening here at Folkestone village, it's not classed as actual snow flakes, so just for the sake of it, I'm going to say that it looks like I will go right through the whole of 2014 without seeing any proper snow.
But that isn't new, the same thing happened in 2011 - yes, straight after that December.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Solar Cycles
28 December 2014 10:50:18

Come on guys there's lots of potential. 

Retron
28 December 2014 10:53:52


Since I only got to see splodgy wet sleet for all of 30 seconds yesterday evening here at Folkestone village,


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Lucky you!


We had 30 seconds of sleety stuff at the end of a hail shower at the end of January. If it wasn't for that it'd have been a snowless year here.


(I'm hopeful this winter will improve on last "winter"'s 30 seconds of sleet, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. An honest-to-goodness snow flurry is all I ask for each year!)


Leysdown, north Kent

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