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Andy Woodcock
29 December 2014 08:24:01

Great photo Brian and shows how very limited the snow was.


where do you gets these pics from? Any chance of a link if they are available to the public?


cheers.


Andy


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Sinky1970
29 December 2014 08:44:14
It comes to something when countries like Greece has a greater snow risk than we do.
Tim A
29 December 2014 12:55:53
Snow cover on boxing day around 11pm will have been more extensive than the above picture shows as there was a fair bit of melting below 150m on Friday night with temperatures on low ground rising to between 2 c and 3c until the front cleared later in the night.
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JimC
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29 December 2014 13:01:22

If we can't have snow I want sun, HOT sun, lovely clear frosty days isn't any good, just a waste of cold air, If no snow roll on summer.

snow 2004
29 December 2014 14:48:36


 


I used to think Glossop was the bees knees when it came to snow, but to be honest since reading your posts I've started to think differently 😉 . 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


Frontal snow when the wind direction is from the N, NE, E, S. SE usually only delivers light snow here. The hills rise up above 400 metres in these directions and provide a shadow lower parts of the valley.


Add in the complexity of a rain to snow event and the light precipitation meant it took a while to turn properly to snow. Once it did the ground was too wet and the precip to light to overcome this despite the temp dropping to 0c. All we ended up was with a very thin dusting whilst the exposed hill tops got with 4 inches of the stuff.


In these setups Buxton is the place to be as it exposed to these wind directions and it's altitude means precip usually starts as snow in these marginal setups.


As you know deeply cold convective Easterlies and NW'lies are a different storyhere, however these have been lacking in recent years.


 


 


 


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Gooner
29 December 2014 14:52:10


If we can't have snow I want sun, HOT sun, lovely clear frosty days isn't any good, just a waste of cold air, If no snow roll on summer.


Originally Posted by: JimC 


And that gets you hot sun does it?


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29 December 2014 16:10:34


 


And that gets you hot sun does it?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


We can only hope can't we Gooner.

ARTzeman
29 December 2014 16:20:05

Have to get some Easterly turbines going....






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nsrobins
29 December 2014 16:27:35


 


I know you have a bee in your bonnet about this sort of thing. 😉 Of course it's natural to think about where you live.. I was just making the point that one shouldn't necessarily label a cold spell as "not cold" because you haven't had snow in your back yard.


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Not exactly a bee in my bonnet, Joe. Actually I have tried over the years to stay out of threads that become regionally biased but when it comes to cold and snow it's very difficult. I totally acknowledge the difference in conditions can be very marked over a short geographical distance, but I am slightly intolerant of posters who say how brilliant it is and how cold the UK conditions are when it clearly isn't in much of the world beyond their back yards (not you by the way).
The image posted by Brian shows how relatively defined the area that had snow on Boxing Day was, and I'm pleased for those that saw it. It'll mostly all be gone by Friday anyway.


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NDJF
29 December 2014 16:40:51
Why such despondency, MH advising - presume the tweet below is a positive if you like cold weather.

in my back yard it has remained icy and frost covered for 3 days now, temp down to 0c already - feels very festive to me..



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Whether Idle
29 December 2014 16:58:23

Why such despondency, MH advising - presume the tweet below is a positive if you like cold weather.

in my back yard it has remained icy and frost covered for 3 days now, temp down to 0c already - feels very festive to me..



Matthew Hugo
‏@MattHugo81 00Z ECM essentially destroys the strat vortex at 30hPa by 8th of January. Implications possibly felt mid-Jan onwards

Originally Posted by: NDJF 


Important part has been bolded and italicised.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
29 December 2014 19:38:15
Stunning day down on South coast...lots of frost in Chichester Harbour stayed all day..ice in the marina too😀. My moan...all this will be gone by Thursday and we have to endure weeks of Zonal muck😂
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29 December 2014 20:02:58

Sorry guys!    I'm back in here again but I think I have a genuine no snow whinge. 


Right now, I want 'no snow'.  I've had enough of it now.  Four days is enough for me. 


The roads are bad, most have an inch of solid compacted ice that shows no sign of thawing.  I managed to get my little car into work this morning but the trucks delivering the work didn't, so it was either sit and twiddle my thumbs or come home early. I came home early.  My youngest son worked overtime Boxing Day and all weekend to cover for staff who couldn't get in.  His girlfriend couldn't get home from work on Boxing Day night so she had to stay put.  Then, because night staff couldn't get in, she ended up doing a 20 hour shift and has lived at work for the weekend. 


I can't get to my mum's by car as it's up an ice rink of a hill.  I walked, slipped, slid and stumbled to get to her house, but mum can't get out and she's getting cabin fever.  I'm thinking we have a sledge in the garage but once it gathers momentum downhill, I'd never be able to stop it before it reached the junction at the bottom, which is a bus route!  I know from personal experience but I was much braver when I was ten years old!  Oh dear, I cannot get these thoughts out of my head now!   


Our beautiful countryside is littered with cars stuck in hedgerows and some look like they've made their final resting place.  It's painful hearing emergency vehicles going so slowly along the main road and it's scary when you see them coming towards you because you can't get out of their way.  Once the ruts in the ice get you, you have to go with the flow and tighten your buttocks!    


And that's just touching the tip of the iceberg of problems the snow can cause.  It's OK to have disruption for a couple of days, but then it starts to grind you down.  So, if some of you who have no snow would like to come and take mine, I'd be very grateful! 


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Whether Idle
29 December 2014 20:05:58

Stunning day down on South coast...lots of frost in Chichester Harbour stayed all day..ice in the marina too😀. My moan...all this will be gone by Thursday and we have to endure weeks of Zonal muck😂

Originally Posted by: chichesterweatherfan 


It has been a stunner on the south Kent coast too.  I had similar feelings about what is to follow, Im NOT looking forward to cloud dampness and gales.


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Joe Bloggs
29 December 2014 20:31:26


 


Not exactly a bee in my bonnet, Joe. Actually I have tried over the years to stay out of threads that become regionally biased but when it comes to cold and snow it's very difficult. I totally acknowledge the difference in conditions can be very marked over a short geographical distance, but I am slightly intolerant of posters who say how brilliant it is and how cold the UK conditions are when it clearly isn't in much of the world beyond their back yards (not you by the way).
The image posted by Brian shows how relatively defined the area that had snow on Boxing Day was, and I'm pleased for those that saw it. It'll mostly all be gone by Friday anyway.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


You do have a bee in your bonnet! It's definitely one of your bug bears. There is nothing wrong with that either by the way. 


We've both been members here for years and I've come to realise that the NIMBY tainted arguments get on your wick a bit...


;-)


I totally agree this was a rather unspectacular cold spell for most of the country.  



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29 December 2014 20:32:54

..... Oh and another thing.  There's no point having snow when nobody else has it.  Excitement is just not the same if you have nobody to share it with.   


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nsrobins
29 December 2014 20:36:30


Sorry guys!    I'm back in here again but I think I have a genuine no snow whinge. 


Right now, I want 'no snow'.  I've had enough of it now.  Four days is enough for me. 


 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I totally understand Caz - a freeze thaw cycle after a sudden snowfall can be a real pain when it comes to getting around. But there is sunshine on the horizon as it were and it'll all be gone by Weds or Thurs at the latest with mild winds blowing in.


Actually your post is a refreshing and poignant reminder that winter weather isn't always Christmas card scenes and snow angels.


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richardabdn
29 December 2014 20:45:34

This high pressure is utter crap. Woeful beyond words.


Took almost the entire night to get below freezing last night. Yet again due to the wind -so no difference with a 1035mb high compared to zonal dross


Tonight having fallen to -1.8C it's now risen above freezing for no good reason - doesn't seem to be any wind and the sky is still clear. Total garbage. What the hell does it actually take to get a proper cold night when a 1035mb high with clear skies no longer delivers?


That looks about it for frost for possibly a week or more as more mind-numbingly tedious windy dross sets in. Not that it ever really left.


Just a complete disaster of winter so far. It's going to be only the second winter in 25 years to reach the 2nd week of January without any lying snow. Just when is this nonsense going to end because every day that passes extends this unprecedented snow drought which is already 2 months longer than anything else in history


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Caz
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29 December 2014 21:19:15


 


I totally understand Caz - a freeze thaw cycle after a sudden snowfall can be a real pain when it comes to getting around. But there is sunshine on the horizon as it were and it'll all be gone by Weds or Thurs at the latest with mild winds blowing in.


Actually your post is a refreshing and poignant reminder that winter weather isn't always Christmas card scenes and snow angels.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

I do love the snow.  Honest!  But I really should learn to be careful what I wish for! 


To top my current snow woes, over on the MO thread there's talk of snow for the third week in January.  Now, normally that's what I'd wish for, snow on my birthday.  But this year I'm spending it in the Caribbean.  So snow between here and Gatwick on 21st January is NOT what I want!          


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Jonesy
29 December 2014 23:07:19


I do love the snow.  Honest!  But I really should learn to be careful what I wish for! 


To top my current snow woes, over on the MO thread there's talk of snow for the third week in January.  Now, normally that's what I'd wish for, snow on my birthday.  But this year I'm spending it in the Caribbean.  So snow between here and Gatwick on 21st January is NOT what I want!          


Originally Posted by: Caz 


They also say chance of snow in the South East this weekend however I wouldn't sweat over it...certainly not 3 weeks away Caz  let's face it 72hrs is a push now days it seems 


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Retron
30 December 2014 04:45:34


They also say chance of snow in the South East this weekend


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


There's a chance I'll win the lottery. There's a chance that a meteorite will hit the Houses of Parliament tomorrow. There's a chance that there's a cache of diamonds buried 23 feet below your house.


As for snow, it's typical that now I've got winter tyres (second year in a row) it's been remarkably un-wintry, yesterday and today excepted (where we actually have a hoar frost). We had a nice little run of winters from 2000/1 to 2012/3 with every year seeing snow on the ground here. Last winter didn't and we're looking at the first half of winter being a complete write off down here as well... all I can say is that I sincerely hope that the latter half of winter plays ball!


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ARTzeman
30 December 2014 08:22:55

Whinge. Whinge.  NO Snow. Only frost even that is now thawing.....






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Gooner
30 December 2014 09:00:17

I have to say, its not looking clever


CAZ you are very lucky IMO


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Caz
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30 December 2014 17:47:33


I have to say, its not looking clever


CAZ you are very lucky IMO


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

  Yes, I am lucky.  I got into work again today and the truck delivering our work actually made it as well, so I had something to do.   We had a slight thaw today but it's already below freezing at -1.4c so what was roadside melt will be frozen again.


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David M Porter
30 December 2014 22:03:33


This high pressure is utter crap. Woeful beyond words.


Took almost the entire night to get below freezing last night. Yet again due to the wind -so no difference with a 1035mb high compared to zonal dross


Tonight having fallen to -1.8C it's now risen above freezing for no good reason - doesn't seem to be any wind and the sky is still clear. Total garbage. What the hell does it actually take to get a proper cold night when a 1035mb high with clear skies no longer delivers?


That looks about it for frost for possibly a week or more as more mind-numbingly tedious windy dross sets in. Not that it ever really left.


Just a complete disaster of winter so far. It's going to be only the second winter in 25 years to reach the 2nd week of January without any lying snow. Just when is this nonsense going to end because every day that passes extends this unprecedented snow drought which is already 2 months longer than anything else in history


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