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marting
17 January 2015 09:42:13
Light rain showers washing away the frost and ice left overs from hailstorm last night - just rubbish😤
Martin
Martin
Greasby, Wirral.
tallyho_83
17 January 2015 09:48:51

Well these CB clouds you saw in the photos above earlier finally arrived here and weakened and guess what!? Temperatures have risen to 3c and we have rain and this is melting all the frost and ice - so temperatures rising in the showers NOT falling: - At least we have a nice rain bow but Exeter is missing out YET AGAIN!



 


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Saint Snow
17 January 2015 10:05:53

Convective activity pepping up over the Irish Sea and moving eastwards inland. Radar showing them crossing MBY, and there are certainly threatening looking clouds about. But up to now they've not dropped anything - snow or otherwise - near here.



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
tallyho_83
17 January 2015 10:11:34


Convective activity pepping up over the Irish Sea and moving eastwards inland. Radar showing them crossing MBY, and there are certainly threatening looking clouds about. But up to now they've not dropped anything - snow or otherwise - near here.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Just watch this rainfall radar sequence - notice how the showers of snow or sleet miss Exeter!??


http://www.raintoday.co.uk/


 


 


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Solar Cycles
17 January 2015 10:18:04

Temp here on the rise now at 3.2c with dew points at +0.6c. I would have thought being some 30 miles inland and with an elevation of 120m that my chances of seeing some lying snow would've been much better.

nsrobins
17 January 2015 10:37:46

Rain shower just cleared and a sunny, mild feeling morning with temps on the up at +6C.
If this is a cold spell in mid-January we really are in trouble


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Nordic Snowman
17 January 2015 11:07:28


Rain shower just cleared and a sunny, mild feeling morning with temps on the up at +6C.
If this is a cold spell in mid-January we really are in trouble


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 



Neil - the problem is mostly down to the media but to a degree, to the Met Office too. I heard on LBC radio last night that the Met Office issued a Level 3 Amber Alert of freezing weather.... the radio chap used 2c as the widespread temperature for the weekend. LOL.


As mentioned here, Pompey will probably reach 6-7c as a max and probably hover close to zero overnight. The days of getting temperatures even close to 1987, when even the coast maxed at no higher than -7c on Jan 12th 1987, seem well and truly over. It almost seems impossible to ever be achieved again.


To me, it feels like the media and MO just like to issue warnings etc for the sake of it. It is as though they like to write about the weather as everyone knows that it is the nation's favourite pass time and who doesn't like a sensationalist headline? The trouble is that the warnings have almost become meaningless because they have become so diluted.


4-7c by day in the far S was considered the norm in January at one time. Just because mean temperatures have risen over the last few decades, shouldn't mean the criteria for warnings should move too. At this rate, warnings will be issued for temperatures of 10c in another couple of decades


 


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doctormog
17 January 2015 11:19:06

A couple of pots Mike. The Level 3 alert (whether OTT or not) is for the North of England not the south and secondly according to official data the longterm climate maxima in places like Portsmouth/Solent for January are 8°C. So even maxes of 3 to 6°C are 2 to 5 degrees below average.


picturesareme
17 January 2015 11:35:21
The often miss interpretation of the written forecasts by the met office is a bigger issue I think...
Although their automated graphics are often well the mark. Just last night it got down to -2C in north Portsmouth, a good 4C colder then was showing even at the time. That frosty picture I've posted; well the night we had that frost we where being forecasted to have a low of 5C according to the automated temperatures on the met, but in reality it was just shy of -4C.

I've not seen much about this apparent cold spell in the media, all that I have heard bar the met office updates has come from TWO forum... Experience has told me that folk on here are often far to melodramatic about these things.
tallyho_83
17 January 2015 11:47:30
8c now in Exeter -breeze has died down and feels like spring - we were forecasted a high of 5c today! So A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! Little of no showers either.
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
17 January 2015 12:07:06

This chart is very misleading showing rain for S England now 12 midday. Yet we haven't seen any showers here in Exeter - all went to the north and across Somerset and along the M4:



Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


LeedsLad123
17 January 2015 12:09:55
It's nearly subzero at midday here so I guess a cold weather alert is justified. We could get an ice day on Monday to boot.
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Solar Cycles
17 January 2015 12:15:44

8c now in Exeter -breeze has died down and feels like spring - we were forecasted a high of 5c today! So A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT! Little of no showers either.

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Terrible forecast yesterday for today here, was  down for heavy snow showers and temp of just 1c. The reality rain/sleet shower with a temp of 4.4c, in fact the local MetO forecast around these parts is rarely right and I would be better off asking the local hobo for his opinion on what tomorrow may bring.

SEMerc
17 January 2015 12:16:47

And the wait continues, the snow parting like the proverbial Red Sea before it got to my place this morning.

snow 2004
17 January 2015 12:18:45

Very frustrating here as the showers head a few miles to my North as the wind has gone round the WSW yet again!


Glossop Derbyshire, 200m asl
nsrobins
17 January 2015 12:25:08


A couple of pots Mike. The Level 3 alert (whether OTT or not) is for the North of England not the south and secondly according to official data the longterm climate maxima in places like Portsmouth/Solent for January are 8°C. So even maxes of 3 to 6°C are 2 to 5 degrees below average.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


This is not the thread for being factually correct, Michael. It's for unbridled whinging and I'm making the most of it


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
CAPE-steve
17 January 2015 12:26:58


Very frustrating here as the showers head a few miles to my North as the wind has gone round the WSW yet again!


Originally Posted by: snow 2004 


You and me both. Sunny, frosty but snowless here. Shouldn't really complain after boxing day but I will anyway, seen as this thread exists!

tallyho_83
17 January 2015 12:35:32


 


You and me both. Sunny, frosty but snowless here. Shouldn't really complain after boxing day but I will anyway, seen as this thread exists!


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


Where are you? we are currently at 9c here in Exeter and the high for today was forecasted +6c winds are light and feels like spring in the sun.


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


CAPE-steve
17 January 2015 12:45:25
Sorry location wasn't showing. Dronfield, S Yorks.
Jive Buddy
17 January 2015 13:04:56

I'm starting to get that sinking feeling now. Still not a single snowflake seen, and one unused pair of snow shoes go into the wardrobe, perhaps for use in better climes....like Greece!


Meh!


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
Saint Snow
17 January 2015 14:57:58


 


You and me both. Sunny, frosty but snowless here. Shouldn't really complain after boxing day but I will anyway, seen as this thread exists!


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


 


And me three (although our Boxing Day snow wasn't half as good as yours)!


We've had 2 or 3 showers this pm, but all of a rain/hail mix. Hardly surprising when the temp has maxed at 5.3c


Meanwhile, looking to our NE, the sky throughout the afternoon has been black. The Pennine stretches of M62 (from Milnrow/j21 eastwards) has snow, although none on the carriageways. The M61 has a light, slushy-looking covering on the fringes; on the M6 you need to go to j27 to see any specs of snow on the verges. Deffo a case of needing altitude in this region.


All in all, a very disappointing day, given GFS and some others had this region under regular snow showers today - but the MetO got the forecast spot-on, it must be said, apart from over-estimating how cool it'd be (it forecast a max of 3c.)


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
bradders
17 January 2015 16:39:29


Very frustrating here as the showers head a few miles to my North as the wind has gone round the WSW yet again!


Originally Posted by: snow 2004 

Exactly the same here, sunny all day and the shower clouds visible to the North. It`s cloudy now but still dry.



Eric. Cheadle Hulme, Stockport.
bradders
17 January 2015 16:55:30

Just to do a bit more whinging/moaning we never had any snow during the 1962-63 winter, thanks to the bloody Pennine snow/rain shadow.


It was so snowless that I went to work on my motorbike every day (although I did fall off twice on icy roads)



Eric. Cheadle Hulme, Stockport.
Saint Snow
17 January 2015 17:07:43


Just to do a bit more whinging/moaning we never had any snow during the 1962-63 winter, thanks to the bloody Pennine snow/rain shadow.


It was so snowless that I went to work on my motorbike every day (although I did fall off twice on icy roads)


Originally Posted by: bradders 


 


Before my time, but my dad tells me that St Helens suffered a similar fate - had about 2" of snow just after Xmas, which then froxe and stayed in increasingly dirty patches until about March



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
nsrobins
17 January 2015 17:19:52

When people start moaning about what most deem the greatest winter of the 20th Century, there is really no hope left


I'm actually quite glad the MetO have changed their tune today and we won't have to hear them bleating on about a longish cold spell with easterly winds later this week despite most of the output saying otherwise. 


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO

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