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Gooner
18 January 2015 23:25:45


 


I wonder what the verification stats for these diagrams would look like? Not very impressive would be my guess.


J F F = Just For Frustration.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Bet you clicked on the link though


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Jive Buddy
18 January 2015 23:43:30

It's like the Three Kings, this weather, in the South of England.

Cold, Manky sh*te and Murr.

Originally Posted by: Girthmeister 



It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
nsrobins
18 January 2015 23:49:11

It's like the Three Kings, this weather, in the South of England.

Cold, Manky sh*te and Murr.

Originally Posted by: Girthmeister 


 Very good - that did make me chuckle


So had the day off today - family, friends, life, that sort of thing. I see we're as undecided about this week as we were.


PS: Anyone on ENS watch have a browse at the control. It does something very strange later on.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Gooner
19 January 2015 00:16:07


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
19 January 2015 00:22:40

Weather type GFS We 21.01.2015 00 GMT


Weather type GFS We 21.01.2015 06 GMT


Weather type GFS We 21.01.2015 12 GMT


Weather type GFS We 21.01.2015 18 GMT


As you all love these


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
19 January 2015 00:26:15


From Mr Murr on NW


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Snow Hoper
19 January 2015 00:33:10



From Mr Murr on NW


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Oh look. A Murr Sausage!


 


Going to war over religion is like killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend.


Home : Thorndon, Suffolk.
Matty H
19 January 2015 06:46:39

Ooooh! I'm in the mixing zone. I'm either going to have to get myself a rapper's name, or get some vodka and lemonade in. 


Matty H
19 January 2015 06:56:45

Just had a quick look at the GFS Precip charts for a laugh. Where did Wednesday night's snow go? 


nsrobins
19 January 2015 06:57:20

Looks like a distinct lack of favourable clusters this morning.


Someone will no doubt explain how the stratosphere will be gas mark 7 in three weeks causing a snow shower in Blackpool, but there has been a easing from the theme to disrupt the second trough so we're back to a westerly drift again by the weekend and almost where we were last Friday. Shame - I was liking the build of heights to our NE these last few runs.


We do of course have some weather much closer to hand.


 


 


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Ally Pally Snowman
19 January 2015 08:11:14

Latest Beeb forecast very underwhelming for Wednesday showed rain for most maybe some hill snow? Goes against there own website which has snow for many. A slow rise in temps to mild looks likely from Friday now.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
turbotubbs
19 January 2015 08:13:31


Ooooh! I'm in the mixing zone. I'm either going to have to get myself a rapper's name, or get some vodka and lemonade in. 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I thought Matty H was a rappers name...

The Beast from the East
19 January 2015 08:31:07

I think this cold spell never looked right from the beginning. Get it over with ASAP and hope for another shot at HLB next month


Next please!


 


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idj20
19 January 2015 08:33:37


Just had a quick look at the GFS Precip charts for a laugh. Where did Wednesday night's snow go? 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



I think we may have pinched it going by some of the latest outputs. Seems even I may get to see some of the white stuff associated with a very weak shallow low pressure cell creeping along the Channel on Wednesday afternoon/evening if what I'm seeing is to be believed.

However, when it comes to this kind of thing, even 36 hours might as well be 360 hours away in forecasting terms. The 950 and 850 hpas might just about be favourable for it - but I think the dewpoints may let the side down unless we have enough of a pull in from the near Continent. And that's assuming there'll be enough precipitation to play about with in the first place (well, we have had enough rain so far this month so why break the habit).

Looking further ahead, it looks like the eventual return to less cold conditions by the weekend is likely to take place without too much in the way of drama (hoping to be dry and bright by the weekend, I'll take that).


Folkestone Harbour. 
Retron
19 January 2015 08:37:54

Very quick post as I'm at work - but suffice to say EPS median highs for 24th on (Reading) have gone from:

4 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 4 (12z yesterday)

to

4 / 4 / 9 / 4 / 4 (0z today)

Quite a remarkable rise on the 26th!


Leysdown, north Kent
GIBBY
19 January 2015 08:45:05

HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM 8AM TODAY MONDAY JANUARY 19TH 2015.

NEXT UPDATE TUESDAY JANUARY 20TH 2015 08:00

THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION
A slack and cold airflow will persist today with a weakening occluded front approaching the West of the UK tonight and moving slowly East tomorrow, weakening further.

MODELS-2 WEEK HEADLINE Rather cold and unsettled with rain or snow in places. Frost at times. Perhaps becoming less cold with rain at times next week.

THE JET STREAM ENSEMBLE FORECAST The Jet Stream Forecast shows the flow flattening out over Europe later this week and beyond as the trough over the Med finally lifts out. We then have a more traditional Jet flow for the time of year just to the South of the UK and on across Germany in a more mobile Atlantic feed fuelled by Low pressure to the North of the UK.

GFS OPERATIONAL The GFS operational today shows a rather cold or cold eek this week with fronts moving in from the west and weakening and eventually collapsing as they move SE. Some rain, sleet or snow can be expected as they cross though amounts will generally be quite small. The process repeats at the end of the week before the milder Atlantic westerly winds break through briefly. Then further disrupting Low pressure moves SE over the UK with further rain and snow through the second week with temperatures generally maintained on the cold side of average for most.

THE GFS CONTROL The GFS control run is very similar in pattern with the cold weather generally ahnging on well into next week with this weeks disrupting troughs and Low pressure delivering occasional spells of rain or snow before a cold ridge at the weekend brings cold and frosty weather before the next batch of Low pressure slides SE next week with further rain and snow. The end of the run does show a more traditional Westerly flow setting in across the UK eventually.

THE GFS CLUSTERS The GFS Clusters today have sided with Low pressure lying to the North of the UK and NW Europe with rather chilly and unsettled Westerly airflow conditions by far the most likely position we will end up with in both 10 and 14 days with rain at times and hill snow in places.

UKMO UKMO this morning also shows troughs of Low pressure slipping SE across the UK midweek with a mix of rain and snow before a drier phase later in the week. Then the pattern repeats on Friday before milder atlantic winds look poised to cross most parts of the UK over the weekend with some rain at times across the North but still cold conditions for rather longer over the South.

THE FAX CHARTS The Fax Charts continue to illustrate a series of troughs edging slowly East across the UK with a mix of rain, sleet and snow for many at times. It also shows a repeating pattern of this towards the weekend.

GEM GEM today also keeps the theme of the other models in showing a week of disrupting troughs of Low pressure sliding away SE over and away from the UK with smoe rain and snow events for some as they go. It's trend does repeat the pattern at the end of the week but then goes the way of the other output in releasing milder Westerly winds to cross the UK from the Atlantic early next week following a ridge of High pressure over the weekend.

NAVGEM NAVGEM is rather less progressive in bringing in Atlantic Westerly winds at the end of it's output with pressure staying quite High towards the SE and SW winds blowing across the UK with attendant milder air for the North and West at least. A weakening toughs brings rain across the UK before the front bringing it weakens and slows across Southern Britain a week from now.

ECM ECM this morning too maintains a rather cold period this week as troughs of Low pressure run SE down across the UK midweek and again at the end of the week with a mix of rain, sleet and snow at times for some. Following the second push milder air affects the North over the weekend and this extends South to all areas under Westerly winds early next week with rain at times and nearer to average temperatures.

ECM 10 DAY MEAN The ECM 10 Day Mean Chart is trending towards a flatter pattern as the trough to the East of the UK lifts out somewhat by 10 days time at the same time as moving further to the East. This allows a push of milder Westerly winds across the UK under Low pressure to the North and High to the SW with rain at times and nearer to average temperatures more likely though still cold enough for some wintry showers over Northern hills at times.

NOTABLE TREND CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS RUNS The main trend this morning is a firming up of the cold weather being released over next weekend with next week looking rather milder from all models with a return to westerly winds and rain at times for all.

MY THOUGHTS It seems this morning that the cold weather currently being experienced by the whole UK will release it's grip from the West come the weekend for the North and in the South too early next week. In the meantine it's the pattern as before with disrupting troughs of Low pressure sliding SE down over and away from the UK with outbreaks of rain and snow affecting many parts at times through the working part of this week. Amounts of wintry precipitation doesn't look likely to be particularly bothersome on a nationwide scale although no doubt a few locations will do OK out of these troughs as they slide through. Frosts of course will be prevalent where skies clear overnight but temperatures should exceed freezing point almost everywhere by day. Then we look towards the weekend and next week to see a ridge of High pressure give some frosty and cold weather for many especially the South while the North and West gradually see a feed of less cold SW winds develop with rain at times and this is shown by most output to work it's way down into Southern Britain too by next week with temperatures returning to closer to average and some rain at times for many. The problem is that this has a high percentage likelihood of happening as we have received little help from High pressure to the NE which is too far away to hold back the Atlantic push expected next weekend. Our old friend the Azores High is also much too prominent to the SW and could of done being more displaced towards a location further West than is programmed as it continues to feed repeated pushes of warm air around it's Northern flank towards the UK next weekend. A ridge from the Azores High at the weekend across the South of the UK cuts off the path of depressions and fronts from feeding SE and instead sending them NE towards Scandinavia instead and returning milder WSW winds across the UK. So in summary this morning it looks like we have another 4-6 days of cold weather with some snow opportunities in places and frost at night before the inevitable slip into a more traditional mix of Westerly winds and rain at times returns next week.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Joe Bloggs
19 January 2015 08:47:56


I think this cold spell never looked right from the beginning. Get it over with ASAP and hope for another shot at HLB next month


Next please!


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Are we allowed an attempt at some snow first?


00z GFS dewpoints looking rather marginal for snow here Tuesday night, better on EURO4.


MetO raw data showing quite a significant event here now with heavy snow tomorrow evening all Tuesday evening and throughout the night into Wednesday.


We'll see!



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Gary L
19 January 2015 08:50:43


 


Are we allowed an attempt at some snow first?


00z GFS dewpoints looking rather marginal for snow here Tuesday night, better on EURO4.


MetO raw data showing quite a significant event here now with heavy snow tomorrow evening all Tuesday evening and throughout the night into Wednesday.


We'll see!


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Carol only mentioning hill snow for the North of England with rain elsewhere. Doesn't look promising!

Joe Bloggs
19 January 2015 09:01:22


 


Carol only mentioning hill snow for the North of England with rain elsewhere. Doesn't look promising!


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


I hadn't seen any TV broadcasts so that's news to me. That's certainly at odds with SOME of the data. And Steve Murr. :p


I'm not entirely convinced either way, quite yet.



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Solar Cycles
19 January 2015 09:11:46
Looks like a return to the default weather pattern for this winter next week, with alternating TM and PM air in a mobile westerly regime. This week I don't see much in the way of any lowland snow as any fronts seem to fizzle out the more East they progress with the MEtO having none if it unless you live on a hill.
bledur
19 January 2015 09:31:23



From Mr Murr on NW  Oh for goodness sake, What in the wild world of sports is that supposed to be ? Unsure


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Charmhills
19 January 2015 09:54:25

The 06z GFS brings back the heavy snow from 42hs onwards with a fair bit for Northern England and the Midlands.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Solar Cycles
19 January 2015 09:54:33

IMO the reason why these marginal situations don't seem to deliver the goods these days is down to the AMO still being in its positive phase, hence the Atlantic is warmer than average. Until we see this switch to its negative phase which isn't due until sometime after 2020, then we'll continue to struggle with these sort of set ups.

Charmhills
19 January 2015 10:36:19

https://twitter.com/MattHugo81/status/557121850560761857



Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Saint Snow
19 January 2015 10:37:31

I'm expecting nothing but some sleet/rain IMBY tomorrow evening/night, as there just isn't the deep cold this far west to resist the milder air onslaught. Manchester might be a little more fortunate, although again I feel some altitude (100m+) will be needed for settling snow of any note



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
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