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Gooner
24 January 2015 16:16:09

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn961.gif


Screaming NWly


BUT


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn9617.gif


No doubt Matty and Jacko will be sat outside in their Budgy Smugglers


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
24 January 2015 16:19:47


Cold air soon across all of the UK



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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Joe Bloggs
24 January 2015 16:23:26

Thursday morning looks interesting for here.


Strong WNW'ly, frequent hail sleet and snow showers pushing in off the Irish Sea. Uppers, dewpoints and 2m temps look ok too! 


Really hope this one doesn't go the shape of the pear. 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Gooner
24 January 2015 16:29:43

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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Charmhills
24 January 2015 16:33:36


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Best chart from the Met/o model all winter.


Loughborough, EM.

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Duane.
Phil G
24 January 2015 16:34:11
Consensus there will be low pressure to the east of us from the second half of the week, but it's being modelled as a very complex area from run to run.
doctormog
24 January 2015 16:37:36


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


With thicknesses for 500-1000hPa at c. 523dam in a few places it may be cold enough for snow.


nsrobins
24 January 2015 16:40:19

The Northerly looks pretty much a cert now - detail is what we now apply in subsequent runs.
As I said earlier expectations should remain tempered by the moderate uppers being pulled down by the low - this is not a classic Arctic blast by any stretch as currently modelled and if those uppers and dams remain as they are, many places are looking only at 'wintry' showers and not snow showers as some might think looking at the SLP only.
Let's see what develops, but I for one will not be forecasting snow here as it stands.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Saint Snow
24 January 2015 16:45:07


Thursday morning looks interesting for here.


Strong WNW'ly, frequent hail sleet and snow showers pushing in off the Irish Sea. Uppers, dewpoints and 2m temps look ok too! 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


The potential problem is that at this range, the last coolish snap was being shown with similarly decent uppers, DP's and 2m's.


 


On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time that one or two much-heralded cold spells haven't come off as hoped, only for a further one to subsequently deliver when people, jaded by recent failures, abandon real hope.



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Gooner
24 January 2015 16:48:57

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015012412/gfsnh-0-240.png?12


LP moves away earlier on this run.


Have a week of interesting weather to come for sure


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


nsrobins
24 January 2015 16:52:15


 


 


The potential problem is that at this range, the last coolish snap was being shown with similarly decent uppers, DP's and 2m's.


 


On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time that one or two much-heralded cold spells haven't come off as hoped, only for a further one to subsequently deliver when people, jaded by recent failures, abandon real hope.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


How poetic


Cold weather fans (that is, enthusiasts of proper winter weather in winter) can be very forgiving and tend to have short memories for failed model performances, but on the other hand are in the main realistic when it comes to expectations. The forecast cold snap next weekend is, as it stands, not going to deliver nationwide snowfall. Yes the usual suspects will be favoured, but most of us know that it's wintry showers for most.


Time for changes though.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Charmhills
24 January 2015 16:55:29


 


How poetic


Cold weather fans (that is, enthusiasts of proper winter weather in winter) can be very forgiving and tend to have short memories for failed model performances, but on the other hand are in the main realistic when it comes to expectations. The forecast cold snap next weekend is, as it stands, not going to deliver nationwide snowfall. Yes the usual suspects will be favoured, but most of us know that it's wintry showers for most.


Time for changes though.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Its rare to get nationwide snowfalls in this country even if you are in a proper cold spell.


Loughborough, EM.

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Duane.
Ally Pally Snowman
24 January 2015 16:58:09


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Amazing ukmo at 120 and 144 has to be a snow fest surely? 



Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gooner
24 January 2015 16:59:15


 


Amazing ukmo at 120 and 144 has to be a snow fest surely? 



Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Don't tell Neil that


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


tallyho_83
24 January 2015 16:59:55


 


Its rare to get nationwide snowfalls in this country even if you are in a proper cold spell.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


So on this note - JUST FOR FRUSTRATION: - Do you think that these wintry showers (as forecasted by model charts) could materialise middle of next week? - been consistent for several runs now. 



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Ally Pally Snowman
24 January 2015 17:00:36


 


How poetic


Cold weather fans (that is, enthusiasts of proper winter weather in winter) can be very forgiving and tend to have short memories for failed model performances, but on the other hand are in the main realistic when it comes to expectations. The forecast cold snap next weekend is, as it stands, not going to deliver nationwide snowfall. Yes the usual suspects will be favoured, but most of us know that it's wintry showers for most.


Time for changes though.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Maybe if you go with the GFS but you would hope the ukmo and the ECM would handle a European trough better. Both show widespread snow.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
doctormog
24 January 2015 17:03:01


 


Maybe if you go with the GFS but you would hope the ukmo and the ECM would handle a European trough better. Both show widespread snow.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


With thicknesses circa 523-525dam or so I would be very cautious about predicting widespread snow. If the t850s are similar to the GFS then it would be very marginal on lower ground IMO.


Patrick01
24 January 2015 17:07:25

Could the cold front whizzing through on Wednesday producing a thunder snow event similar to 2003? If it keeps on being modeled like it is on GFS then it'd be a pretty interesting one. 


 

North Downs Man
24 January 2015 17:09:16
Sleet IMBY.

Cold rain for many..
Zubzero
24 January 2015 17:13:09

Sleet IMBY.

Cold rain for many..

Originally Posted by: North Downs Man 


And a lot of snow for some 

Ally Pally Snowman
24 January 2015 17:16:59


 


With thicknesses circa 523-525dam or so I would be very cautious about predicting widespread snow. If the t850s are similar to the GFS then it would be very marginal on lower ground IMO.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


those thicknesses suggest the right side of marginal for most. You should be sitting pretty for plenty of snow 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
tallyho_83
24 January 2015 17:25:58

Sleet IMBY.

Cold rain for many..

Originally Posted by: North Downs Man 


So a deja-vu of last weeks cold snap?


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eastcoaster
24 January 2015 17:32:44
Ukmo looks snowy to me, GFS looks miserable cold and windy.
Gooner
24 January 2015 17:47:07


Control looking for a quick repeat


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Brian Gaze
24 January 2015 17:57:53

GEFS12z runs are worth stepping through today because I don't think the line graphs will tell the whole story. When looked at individually they are quite messy, but as you'd expect the general theme is head farther north for a better chance of snow.  


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twoother/latest.aspx


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