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Gooner
27 January 2015 22:35:19


Very cold out to next Wednesday


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 January 2015 22:38:23


An Easterly in the making???


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 January 2015 22:39:46

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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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nsrobins
27 January 2015 22:42:37

The 18Z GFS has shifted closer to the 12Z ECM


Signal change or a blink and you'll miss it?
Also note the more robust energy spit on Monday which ends-up perilously close to a Channel Low.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Girthmeister
27 January 2015 22:42:46


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Brimming with interest, and look how far south the 528 line is!

Gooner
27 January 2015 22:44:52


Close to an Easterly setting up


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Rob K
27 January 2015 22:45:40


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


That looks OK with the 528 line heading for Malaga!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Gooner
27 January 2015 22:46:03


 


 


Brimming with interest, and look how far south the 528 line is!


Originally Posted by: Girthmeister 


Yet Nina Ridge says dry inland


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Karl Guille
27 January 2015 22:49:24
Very close to a proper easterly on the GFS 18z as per ECM 12z at T240 too. Certainly a 'hint' of something along these lines in recent output with the GEM 12z not a million miles away either after what GFS would have you believe is a week's worth of northerlies with frequent sleet and snow showers.
St. Sampson
Guernsey
Gooner
27 January 2015 22:53:06

Excellent run from GFS ....................Hic!


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


uncle festa
27 January 2015 22:55:27


 


Fools!!   Have they not recognised that the true Messiah is on here, and his name be Quantum, and Matty be his prophet...


Originally Posted by: Chiltern Blizzard 


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Lee
Gooner
27 January 2015 22:55:42


Cold air from the East keeps us in Winter


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


White Meadows
27 January 2015 22:55:53

A true pub run this....


Shame it'll be an outlier.

nsrobins
27 January 2015 22:56:31

Very close to a proper easterly on the GFS 18z as per ECM 12z at T240 too. Certainly a 'hint' of something along these lines in recent output with the GEM 12z not a million miles away either after what GFS would have you believe is a week's worth of northerlies with frequent sleet and snow showers.

Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


Yes good spot with respect the GEM.
One of the Atlantic brigade these last few days. it's 18Z offering also prolongs the cold with some Eastern promise at the end.

We are looking at the potential of a 10 day cold spell here, with the cold deepening each day after Friday's small blip.
Great stuff and even my level head is starting to wonder.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Rob K
27 January 2015 22:59:39


 


Yes good spot with respect the GEM.
One of the Atlantic brigade these last few days. it's 18Z offering also prolongs the cold with some Eastern promise at the end.

We are looking at the potential of a 10 day cold spell here, with the cold deepening each day after Friday's small blip.
Great stuff and even my level head is starting to wonder.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


It would be a shame if we got the Scandi high and the air was as mild as shown on the 18Z though!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Chiltern Blizzard
27 January 2015 23:02:55


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I know there are other factors, but given the 528 line is so well clear of the UK in all directions, surely that occluded front over the UK is a snowy one.


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Matty H
27 January 2015 23:03:03


A true pub run this....


Shame it'll be an outlier.


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


It probably will be, but I wouldn't mind betting it's not without some support. Developing an easterly isn't a new idea, it's been banded around various outputs for a few days now, and that remains the case. 


idot
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27 January 2015 23:14:32
Well good lord, the 528 is taking itself for a winter break. The dam line in Spain falls mainly on the plain.
tallyho_83
27 January 2015 23:26:30

I notice this LP just off the English channel heading to northern France: - Will it or wont it!?



 


 


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Stormchaser
27 January 2015 23:26:40

That is a significant adjustment on the 18z GFS at just 96 hours with that LP not phasing with the U.S. trough... tracing back and notable differences emerge between 60 and 72 hours range, which sure is close!


Such sudden changes are usually down to an important deviation in observations from what was expected, yet no such adjustment features on the 18z JMA and NAVGEM runs, so I'm not sure what to make of it really - can only wait to see if further support arises tomorrow.


 


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Chiltern Blizzard
27 January 2015 23:31:41


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Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Interesting comparing the 120 fax with the 18z GFS at the same point.... Whereas the general flow is broadly similar, the GFS looks largely featureless with precipitation mainly confined to coasts, whereas the fax clearly shows a small but noteworthy feature right across the country... These type of features tend to pop and develop as we get closer, as anyone tempted to moan at how the outlook looks 'dry' in the charts 3+ days out should note..... January 2010 is a prime example - wrongly written off by some 72 hours from the snow event that dumped 1ft+ over parts of southern England as one that would be a very cold, but boringly dry spell. 


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Karl Guille
27 January 2015 23:36:56


That is a significant adjustment on the 18z GFS at just 96 hours with that LP not phasing with the U.S. trough... tracing back and notable differences emerge between 60 and 72 hours range, which sure is close!


Such sudden changes are usually down to an important deviation in observations from what was expected, yet no such adjustment features on the 18z JMA and NAVGEM runs, so I'm not sure what to make of it really - can only wait to see if further support arises tomorrow.


 


I'm glad it's the end of the day - can sleep while waiting for the 00z runs to allow for a proper assessment of the situation.


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


I noticed that it was a new development too and hence its potential non-appearance on the 00z could make quite a difference. Certainly looking forward to reviewing the 00z output at 05:45 when my alarm rings!


St. Sampson
Guernsey
Russwirral
27 January 2015 23:43:22

The latest E4 is out. I have to say - considering this will be brought in on a west/north west wind. Theres not much snow forecast for our neck of the woods. Ie Southern parts of Northwest england into North wales.  Interestingly theres a greater risk in the east... which is odd


 Rain/Snowfall EURO4 Th 29.01.2015 12 GMT


NMM goes for majority of rain away from the hills:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm.php?ech=3&mode=1&map=5


GFS goes for majority of snow exposed to the NW wind: (low res s probably overdoing it)


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/precipitations-hd/3h.htm


 


I really dont know what to make of this.  90% of the ingredients are there, and yet we are forecast to get nothing.  Is it the models not handling it correctly - or is this how it will acttually play out?


Medlock Vale Weather
27 January 2015 23:55:27


The latest E4 is out. I have to say - considering this will be brought in on a west/north west wind. Theres not much snow forecast for our neck of the woods. Ie Southern parts of Northwest england into North wales.  Interestingly theres a greater risk in the east... which is odd


 Rain/Snowfall EURO4 Th 29.01.2015 12 GMT


NMM goes for majority of rain away from the hills:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm.php?ech=3&mode=1&map=5


GFS goes for majority of snow exposed to the NW wind: (low res s probably overdoing it)


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/precipitations-hd/3h.htm


 


I really dont know what to make of this.  90% of the ingredients are there, and yet we are forecast to get nothing.  Is it the models not handling it correctly - or is this how it will acttually play out?


Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


Yes and going by the Euro4 accumulation for NW England it is screaming a high ground event away from Cumbria. Still I wouldn't put to much emphasis on it. It could be completely wrong.


Snow accu. EURO4 Th 29.01.2015 18 GMT


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Quantum
28 January 2015 00:01:43

My snow risk map. Please see short term discussion thread for more details.



2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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