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lanky
17 July 2015 11:39:03


Ooooooopppppsssss....


Someone at the UK Met seem's to have let the CET domain expire!


http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


How embarrassing. How embarrassing. 


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I thought that as well but it may be that they changed their domain name from .com to .gov.uk as this one is working OK (but still hasn't been updated)


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


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Gavin P
17 July 2015 12:05:50


 


I thought that as well but it may be that they changed their domain name from .com to .gov.uk as this one is working OK (but still hasn't been updated)


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


Originally Posted by: lanky 


Ahhhhhhhh...


Good find!


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Gavin P
17 July 2015 13:06:42

Now updated to 16th;


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/cet_info_mean.html


17.1 


 


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ARTzeman
17 July 2015 13:36:00

Good to se an update from Hadley....


Met Office Hadley      17.1c.       Anomaly    1.2c.      Provisional to 16th.


Metcheck                  17.43c.     Anomaly    0.97c.


Netweather               17.84c.     Anomaly    1.35c.


Clevedon Weather      18.0c.      Anomaly     1.3c.


Mount    Sorrel           17.7c.      Anomaly     1.2c.


My   Mean                  18.0c.      Anomaly     1.4c.  






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ARTzeman
18 July 2015 12:56:16

WITHOUT HADLEY 


Average of the 5  mentioned below is    Just for fun   17.74c.   Anomaly of  1.23c.


 


Metcheck                  17.35c.      Anomaly   0.89c.


Netweather               17.86c.      Anomaly   1.37c.


Clevedon Weather     17.9c.        Anomaly   1.4c.


Mont   Sorrel             17.6c.       Anomaly    1.1c.


My     Mean               18.0c.       Anomaly    1.4c.


  






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18 July 2015 18:46:47

Edging down steadily here, 15C today, which is on the mean.
I suspect it could well end up another below average month with some cool weather next week.


Global Warming
19 July 2015 11:11:52

The CET currently stands at 17.09C up to yesterday by my calculations. The current output suggests the final 10 days of the month could be very much on the chilly side. If this happens the CET could fall to 16.28C by the end of the month which would put us below average. If it had not been for the very warm start to the month we could have struggled to make 16C. Not as bad as 2011 or 2012 but much cooler than the last two July's.


This month provides a very good example of why it is extremely dangerous to base your CET prediction on the expected weather in the first few days of the month.


Gavin P
19 July 2015 11:30:21

Thanks GW!


That's a pretty amazing CET crash, LOL!


If we'd have tapped into the hot air they've had over France in last few day's we'd have been on for a 17c+ finish I think...


I might use your charts on a Blog post on my website later, if that's OK?


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nouska
19 July 2015 11:35:29


The CET currently stands at 17.09C up to yesterday by my calculations. The current output suggests the final 10 days of the month could be very much on the chilly side. If this happens the CET could fall to 16.28C by the end of the month which would put us below average. If it had not been for the very warm start to the month we could have struggled to make 16C. Not as bad as 2011 or 2012 but much cooler than the last two July's.


This month provides a very good example of why it is extremely dangerous to base your CET prediction on the expected weather in the first few days of the month.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


The French weather service were confident of the extreme heat continuing for most of July - hard to envisage a scenario where some of the heat did not regularly make it up into the CET region.


I've looked back at the French heatwaves for the last sixty eight years, every single one was reflected in the CET figures.

Global Warming
19 July 2015 12:22:38


Thanks GW!


That's a pretty amazing CET crash, LOL!


If we'd have tapped into the hot air they've had over France in last few day's we'd have been on for a 17c+ finish I think...


I might use your charts on a Blog post on my website later, if that's OK?


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


sure no problem Gavin

Hungry Tiger
19 July 2015 12:52:39

Thank God I didn't go for anything higher. I had a gut feeling that it would not remain as warm as the first few days of the month. But no way could I envisage a crash like this.


I think this is the biggest CET crash I have ever known - by a very long way.


 


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Hungry Tiger
19 July 2015 12:54:22


 


The French weather service were confident of the extreme heat continuing for most of July - hard to envisage a scenario where some of the heat did not regularly make it up into the CET region.


I've looked back at the French heatwaves for the last sixty eight years, every single one was reflected in the CET figures.


Originally Posted by: nouska 


I have not known a situation in which we have been effectively robbed of what could have been an amazing summer - The heat in France and Spain has been incredible and the barrier separating us between it has acted like the former Berlin Wall in keeping it away from the UK.


 


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Gavin P
19 July 2015 13:31:18


 


sure no problem Gavin


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Thanks GW!


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Stormchaser
19 July 2015 19:57:46

To be fair, I went for 18*C based on signals in the middle part of June (as I was going away on holiday). The signals for a warm month had been there for several weeks prior to it getting underway.


I still have a wisp of hope that next week will feature a warmer day or two to reduce the damage, as the Atlantic trough takes a bit longer to arrive from the west than originally projected. ECM and UKMO have delivered good 12z op runs in that regard.


 


Amazingly, my local mean isn't all that much higher than the CET, standing at 17.68*C up to yesterday. The gap may open up more over the coming few days though, with conditions looking to be on the warm side in the far south.


 


I think this month stands as a great example as to why this competition is very nearly independent of forecasting skill, meaning anyone that has some idea how the first week or so may pan out (which can be gathered from various model output and media outlooks) has a fair chance of doing well. Even then, the advantage over those taking a total guess is reduced greatly by the unpredictability of the remaining 2/3 of the month.


The upshot is that there's very little discrimination being effected by the rules, allowing for large numbers of people to take part without worrying about feeling like underdogs  


 


It also makes clear that it's a bad idea to take this game seriously. I made that mistake a few years ago and life was... tarnished 


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Gavin P
19 July 2015 20:34:16

^^^^^


SC - Indeed! 


Here's the result's of GW's efforts:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/flash.html


Think the Blog is pretty good with GW's lovely charts as well!


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Global Warming
19 July 2015 21:15:06


^^^^^


SC - Indeed! 


Here's the result's of GW's efforts:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/flash.html


Think the Blog is pretty good with GW's lovely charts as well!


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Nice one Gavin. Those 850 temperatures look very poor indeed, even for London, with consistently below average numbers for an extended period.

kendalian
19 July 2015 21:51:34


To be fair, I went for 18*C based on signals in the middle part of June (as I was going away on holiday). The signals for a warm month had been there for several weeks prior to it getting underway.


I still have a wisp of hope that next week will feature a warmer day or two to reduce the damage, as the Atlantic trough takes a bit longer to arrive from the west than originally projected. ECM and UKMO have delivered good 12z op runs in that regard.


 


Amazingly, my local mean isn't all that much higher than the CET, standing at 17.68*C up to yesterday. The gap may open up more over the coming few days though, with conditions looking to be on the warm side in the far south.


 


I think this month stands as a great example as to why this competition is very nearly independent of forecasting skill, meaning anyone that has some idea how the first week or so may pan out (which can be gathered from various model output and media outlooks) has a fair chance of doing well. Even then, the advantage over those taking a total guess is reduced greatly by the unpredictability of the remaining 2/3 of the month.


The upshot is that there's very little discrimination being effected by the rules, allowing for large numbers of people to take part without worrying about feeling like underdogs  


 


It also makes clear that it's a bad idea to take this game seriously. I made that mistake a few years ago and life was... tarnished 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


 


This is my 2nd year in the competition having followed it for a few years. It's made me realise more than ever that no matter how advanced the computer models get, forecasting the weather in the UK more than 5 days ahead with any degree of accuracy is a guess.


Wouldn't be a competition otherwise


 


 

Saint Snow
20 July 2015 10:37:27

I'm surprised it's so low, tbh.


We've had a succession of mild nights this month, where the temp's remained above 14c (many above 16c) and, although daytime temps haven't been scorchio, we seem to have comfortably topped 20c almost every day this July.


Given the general set-up, I'd have thought the more southern-based CET stations would be another degree on top of mine. I was in Cambridge Sat/Sun and it was glorious weather - Saturday (playing golf) was up around 23/24c and sunny.


 



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ARTzeman
20 July 2015 11:07:56

MET OFFICE HADLEY      17.0C.      Anomaly    1.1c    Provisional  to   19th.


Metcheck                       17.25c.    Anomaly     0.79c.


Netweather                    17.73c.   Anomaly     1.24c.


Clevedon  Weather          17.8c.     Anomaly     1.5c.


Mount   Sorrel                 17.4c.     Anomaly     0.9c.


My    Mean                      17.9c      Anomaly     1.5c.


 






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Devonian
20 July 2015 11:41:39


The CET currently stands at 17.09C up to yesterday by my calculations. The current output suggests the final 10 days of the month could be very much on the chilly side. If this happens the CET could fall to 16.28C by the end of the month which would put us below average. If it had not been for the very warm start to the month we could have struggled to make 16C. Not as bad as 2011 or 2012 but much cooler than the last two July's.


This month provides a very good example of why it is extremely dangerous to base your CET prediction on the expected weather in the first few days of the month.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Or indeed from the middle of the month to its end?


It's steamy here this morning, but Scotland sees record amounts of last winter's snow left for the time of year.


 

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20 July 2015 20:42:18


This month provides a very good example of why it is extremely dangerous to base your CET prediction on the expected weather in the first few days of the month.


Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

Absolutely agree.  I went for 16.5c this month but I put in my prediction very early due to being on holiday and before I went away there was no sign of a heat wave, so I went around average.  I think if I'd been here at the end of June when the heat was being turned up, I'd have gone much higher.


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ARTzeman
21 July 2015 07:29:23

Of the UK Mean Temperatures 2010-2015  the highest so far is 2013 being 17.0c.


 


The MEAN for AUGUST    2010 = 14.2c.    2011= 14.1c.     2012 =15.3c.     2013= 15.6c.    2014 =13.9c. 


 


Figures from   metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/datasets


 






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ARTzeman
21 July 2015 11:10:48

Met Office Hadley         17.0c.     Anomaly        1.1c.     Provisional   to   20th.


Metcheck                     17.26c.   Anomaly        0.86c.  


Netweather                  17.72c.   Anomaly        1.22c.


Clevedon Weather        17.8c.    Anomaly         1.5c.


Mount    Sorrel             17.5c.    Anomaly         1.0c.


My     Mean                  17.9c.    Anomaly         1.5c.






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21 July 2015 12:34:36

14.8C (-0.2C) here.
I'm wondering if we'll have another day over 25C this year now (2 so far, 30/6 and 1/7)


ARTzeman
22 July 2015 14:00:07

Met Office Hadley       17.0c.        Anomaly       1.1c.     Provisional to 21st.


Metcheck                   17.29c       Anomaly       0.82.


Netweather                17.74c.      Anomaly       1.25c.


Clevedon  Weather     17.8c.        Anomaly       1.5c.


Mount       Sorrel        17.4c.        Anomaly       1.2c.


My         Mean            18.0c.        Anomaly       1.4c.


            






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