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Charmhills
10 November 2015 08:14:32

The latest ECM-32 control run is an absolute zonal-fest - unrelenting SW'lies, sometimes strong, with low pressure persisting to the NW and high pressure to the south and southeast.

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Models after the weekend looking very unsettled well into next week with gales and heavy rain for many as the euro slug declines southwards.


Temps looking like returning close to the seasonal average at last which is something.


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Saint Snow
10 November 2015 10:15:12


To be honest, I wish I could be like you


Maunder Minimum in response to Jacko4Ever wrote:


 


Post wiped clean - careful there Saint, that added nothing valuable to the discussion!



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Sinky1970
10 November 2015 10:40:25
Again nothing to get over animated over as usual, except if you live near the western half or the top of a hill.
Scandy 1050 MB
10 November 2015 10:53:44

Is the Euro slug finally slithering away?


 


http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ECMWF_0z/hgtcomp.html


 


Still mild but not 'super mild' so something a bit more seasonable on the way if this is right and probably some storms as well.

nsrobins
10 November 2015 11:31:53

The latest ECM-32 control run is an absolute zonal-fest - unrelenting SW'lies, sometimes strong, with low pressure persisting to the NW and high pressure to the south and southeast.

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Ah, so the 'hints' of a few colder solutions have disappeared then?


The pattern is locked for ten days with an occasional decline in heights to our south allowing it to be more windy and average instead of windy and above average.
This I fear is the story going towards and possibly in to December.


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JOHN NI
10 November 2015 12:53:55
Word from the smoke signals is that Thursday/Fridays Atlantic storm affecting the far northwest of the UK will be named.
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Stormchaser
10 November 2015 13:49:20

Those who are cold/snow seekers at heart will (IMO) need to be careful not to get too emotionally attached to the weather over the next couple of months, as the weight of probability is heavily in favour of predominantly zonal conditions and often on the mild side as the Euro High keeps coming back with only brief holidays elsewhere.


Any colder, wintry weather is likely to be fleeting and will struggle to reach the south with much effect.


 


This is what I've been resigned too after carefully considering all the background signals for the season - hence my lack of cold output chasing so far this month.


Yet despite all this, things aren't set in stone, as there are some unusual goings on in the Indian Ocean that have the potential to upset the usual strong El Nino atmospheric setup. Perhaps a 5% chance that conditions will deviate massively from what nearly all respectable major organisations are expecting for at least Nov-Dec and in most cases Nov-Jan (mostly zonal, perhaps even what you might call 'super-zonal').


Late winter may be a different story as the El Nino appears likely to become central-Pacific based over the coming month or so, which allowing for the lagged atmospheric response could encourage more of a negative NAO. That's a long way off at this point in time though, so for now it's just that Indian Ocean anomaly that offers a potential wildcard.


 


If members can avoid using emotive language as far as possible - except if we find ourselves about to be hit by a catastrophic storm or something - that will be much appreciated and help to keep the thread neat and concise 


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Russwirral
10 November 2015 17:07:11

Euro slug.... BEGONE!!!


http://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20151110/12/300/h850t850eu.png


...ok it re-appears a few hours later... but still...


Charmhills
10 November 2015 17:27:13

GFS 12z from next week onwards looking very unsettled for many and often wet and not as mild as it has been of late either.


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moomin75
10 November 2015 17:34:40


Those who are cold/snow seekers at heart will (IMO) need to be careful not to get too emotionally attached to the weather over the next couple of months, as the weight of probability is heavily in favour of predominantly zonal conditions and often on the mild side as the Euro High keeps coming back with only brief holidays elsewhere.


Any colder, wintry weather is likely to be fleeting and will struggle to reach the south with much effect.


 


This is what I've been resigned too after carefully considering all the background signals for the season - hence my lack of cold output chasing so far this month.


Yet despite all this, things aren't set in stone, as there are some unusual goings on in the Indian Ocean that have the potential to upset the usual strong El Nino atmospheric setup. Perhaps a 5% chance that conditions will deviate massively from what nearly all respectable major organisations are expecting for at least Nov-Dec and in most cases Nov-Jan (mostly zonal, perhaps even what you might call 'super-zonal').


Late winter may be a different story as the El Nino appears likely to become central-Pacific based over the coming month or so, which allowing for the lagged atmospheric response could encourage more of a negative NAO. That's a long way off at this point in time though, so for now it's just that Indian Ocean anomaly that offers a potential wildcard.


 


If members can avoid using emotive language as far as possible - except if we find ourselves about to be hit by a catastrophic storm or something - that will be much appreciated and help to keep the thread neat and concise 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

What a thoroughly depressing summary but sadly also very likely to be close to the mark. I can't see anything to suggest this entire winter will be anything but mild and wet with occasional very fleeting PM incursions.


Time to look forward to spring and summer 2016 when northern blocking will return with a vengeance. 


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100m ASL
David M Porter
10 November 2015 17:47:25


What a thoroughly depressing summary but sadly also very likely to be close to the mark. I can't see anything to suggest this entire winter will be anything but mild and wet with occasional very fleeting PM incursions.


Time to look forward to spring and summer 2016 when northern blocking will return with a vengeance. 


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Lol. talk about jumping the gun!


Why not let's just wait and see eh? To write of an entire winter season as mild and wet when we're not even half-way through November is premature to say the least IMO, if not somewhat daft.


Next spring and summer, I'll worry about them much nearer the time.


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LeedsLad123
10 November 2015 17:55:03


 


Lol. talk about jumping the gun!


Why not let's just wait and see eh? To write of an entire winter season as mild and wet when we're not even half-way through November is premature to say the least IMO, if not somewhat daft.


Next spring and summer, I'll worry about them much nearer the time.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Yes - there is an awful lot of nonsense being posted across the board recently. 


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Nordic Snowman
10 November 2015 18:00:53

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1741.gif


Heavy snow alert


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sizzle
10 November 2015 18:09:28


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1741.gif


Heavy snow alert


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IMBY


Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 

well good for you rub it in why don't ya,

moomin75
10 November 2015 18:12:22


 


Lol. talk about jumping the gun!


Why not let's just wait and see eh? To write of an entire winter season as mild and wet when we're not even half-way through November is premature to say the least IMO, if not somewhat daft.


Next spring and summer, I'll worry about them much nearer the time.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

A bit of reverse psychology perhaps. But this pattern will prove incredibly difficult to shift as has already been borne out. Don't worry I'm sure it'll snow throughout January as I am out of the country.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Polar Low
10 November 2015 18:14:03

The next one wont be friendly either with that sort of air mass embedded



 


 


 


 


Word from the smoke signals is that Thursday/Fridays Atlantic storm affecting the far northwest of the UK will be named.

Originally Posted by: JOHN NI 

sriram
10 November 2015 18:30:43

Severe cold and blizzards in Jan and Feb this winter for sure - the mild has to balance out with cold weather at some point - the weather is an equilibrium system - like a pair of weighing scales - you never going to have the scales tilted one way all for sure - we will pay for all this mild weather at some point - even when we last want it like in April next year...............food for thought


Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
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picturesareme
10 November 2015 18:31:21
Well if moomin is forecasting months of mild weather then I better get a snow shovel and bags of rock salt in quickly.... Bitter cold snowy block just over the horizon then 😂
idj20
10 November 2015 18:38:40

Wasn't November 2010 particularly wet and windy? And we all know what happened next. Also, on the other hand, November 2013 was quite uneventful and look at the winter which followed it.


But of course no two Autumn & Winters are exactly alike.

Back to the matter in hand, indeed it goes without saying that it does look set to be rather windy and unsettled over the next week or so, especially over Northern Parts. Anything beyond the weekend becomes educated guesswork, will the unsettled theme continue or high pressure will try to calm things down again?


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Polar Low
10 November 2015 18:42:32

Need to watch those tiny short waves they can do much damage at very short notice.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=144&mode=1&map=3&type=0&archive=


 

Rob K
10 November 2015 18:43:34
One thing you can be fairly sure of is that the weather will make a mockery of any LRFs. Last winter everyone was saying it was likely to be a cold one due to various indicators, and it was very mild. This winter everyone, with no exceptions, has written it off as the mildest and most zonal since earth began to cool from a primordial ball of magma. Time will tell, and declaring winter over on November 10 is pretty foolhardy.
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moomin75
10 November 2015 18:44:14

Well if moomin is forecasting months of mild weather then I better get a snow shovel and bags of rock salt in quickly.... Bitter cold snowy block just over the horizon then 😂

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Aha...you have cottoned on to my forecasting prowess. 😊


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100m ASL
Snowfan
10 November 2015 18:50:16
If you want to avoid "emotive language", best never watch the BBC forecasts as "good" weather means warm sunshine and "bad" weather means snow - my idea of good and bad is reversed at this time of year! 😉
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Polar Low
10 November 2015 19:19:36

Think we may see a upgrade on the 2 system gfs looks like it has started to see it


Essan
10 November 2015 19:40:00

Forget "Abigail", looks like the remnants of TS Kate will be the bigger story with strong winds across England and Wales and heavy rain - more flooding - in the NW, this weekend.


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