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David M Porter
11 November 2015 14:40:03

Signs that the weather is about to turn a bit more lively compared to recently, and a little less mild with it.


It's all yours folks!


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Russwirral
11 November 2015 17:12:33
Euro Slug seems to be coming to an end.

How our weather reacts / interacts with that, is anyones guess... but at least we have that out of the way now.
some faraway beach
11 November 2015 17:40:10

The 12z GFS op starts to build a Newfoundland/mid-Atlantic high in 6 or 7 days' time, which shuts off the current, mild, long-fetch south westerlies for a while:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=156&mode=0


Late in the run this ends up supporting a rather stiff and chilly westerly breeze over the UK:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=312&mode=0


 


2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
Ally Pally Snowman
11 November 2015 19:32:33

The euro slug stops a decent northerly in its tracks. But at least we have some cold air around. Starting to get a bit more interesting though.


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.html


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Arbroath 1320
11 November 2015 23:09:32

Interesting runs tonight from GFS 18Z and ECM 12Z which lower heights to our SW from ~19th onwards, with rising heights over Western Russia. A long way off certainly but a clear change from recent runs which would suggest a colder outlook from that time. A mere blip or an early indication of a pattern change I wonder?


GGTTH
Ally Pally Snowman
12 November 2015 07:09:38

The northerly makes a better fist of it this time on the ECM and we finally get some decent cold at day 10.


-8 850s for the first time!


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=240&mode=0&map=3&type=0&archive=0


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
12 November 2015 07:39:19

GEM looks like it could go very cold after day 10 plenty of high pressure where we need it. A glimmer of hope for the coldies this morning.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rgem2401.html


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Charmhills
12 November 2015 09:42:55


That will do me.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
kmoorman
12 November 2015 10:49:18



That will do me.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


 


Interesting to see a couple of the models going for a more NW -> SE alignment, with low pressure tracking further south, and signs of possible Atlantic ridging.


Things are looking a lot more interesting than they have done for a while.


Could winter be planning a visit to these shores?


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Russwirral
12 November 2015 10:49:52
Ally Pally Snowman
12 November 2015 10:58:53

This presents all sorts of "Fun"

http://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20151112/06/237/h850t850eu.png

Snow, Gales, Heavy Rain... the whole Shibang!

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


 


Indeed heavy snow in the West LOL!


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=240&mode=2


 


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beanoir
12 November 2015 12:58:33
Mild ramp-age...


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12 November 2015 15:11:46


 


 


Indeed heavy snow in the West LOL!


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=240&mode=2


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Not convinced about snow, but both GFS 6z and ECM have a spot of bother for S England on 22 Nov, to match the above


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx


 


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Russwirral
12 November 2015 17:11:56
Same signals made it through to the 12z... the two runs were remarkably similar through to FI

Need to keep an eye on the 21st
doctormog
12 November 2015 17:15:48
If nothing else it does look like the end of the exceptionally mild conditions for the second half of the month - a signal that has been consistent in the charts for some days now,
Gooner
12 November 2015 17:51:35

If nothing else it does look like the end of the exceptionally mild conditions for the second half of the month - a signal that has been consistent in the charts for some days now,

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 



A cooler flow for sure


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Charmhills
12 November 2015 19:11:08

ECM 12z has a southerly tracking jet into fi as well as colder air coming down into Scotland especially.


Very wet for the south at times.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Gooner
12 November 2015 20:47:41


ECM 12z has a southerly tracking jet into fi as well as colder air coming down into Scotland especially.


Very wet for the south at times.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Looks that way Duane , certainly the V Mild air is moved aside for a while at least


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


David M Porter
12 November 2015 21:41:39


 


 



A cooler flow for sure


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


If that chart did verify as shown it would feel pretty chilly under any circumstances, but especially so given the very mild spell we've had since the closing days of October.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Russwirral
12 November 2015 22:58:43
Strange to be so quiet for what have been a couple of runs of very promising charts for coldies.

18z seem be heading in the right direction yet again
David M Porter
12 November 2015 23:09:28

Strange to be so quiet for what have been a couple of runs of very promising charts for coldies.

18z seem be heading in the right direction yet again

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


We just have to keep our feet on the ground meantime and hope that what is being suggested by GFS in FI at the moment is maintained over the coming days. That said, the ECM 12z tonight could look a lot worse for cold at T+240 and is a vast improvement on much of the model output we have been seeing of late.


Also, I seem to remember that as far back as early last week, some GFS runs were suggesting that a transition to something a bit less mild would start to take place around or just after mid-November, so in some ways those model runs don't look like being too far off the mark.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
nsrobins
12 November 2015 23:23:52

A few op runs do not an early winter cold spell make 😎


I'm a long way off buying into the NAO going negative just yet. The GFS control and many of its members continue the general WSW theme for a while yet. I'm not discounting the recent op runs, but we're a long way off calling a significant cool down. Let's give it another three days to see if the op signal can be maintained.


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Zubzero
12 November 2015 23:35:26

Strange to be so quiet for what have been a couple of runs of very promising charts for coldies.

18z seem be heading in the right direction yet again

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


 


What cold?


 


Could be a good start for the Scottish skiing though


 


 

Gooner
13 November 2015 00:20:32


Wintry feel when compared to what we have been used to


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


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