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Gooner
08 December 2015 08:29:46


Not for the first time the Control looks for an Easterly


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Maunder Minimum
08 December 2015 08:58:00


Very close to what we want sadly the Atlantic looks too fired up


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I think that is to misread the chart. I don't think the Atlantic is fired up at all - the problem we have is with the stubborn Euro HP which won't give way - that steers the wind in from the SW with its damp and drizzly muck.


 


New world order coming.
Russwirral
08 December 2015 09:00:27
Could be a bit of snow for high ground of northern england this week, it also looks to reload a day later.

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/00_111_mslp500.png?cb=332 

This little feature has the potential to deliver to lower levels if the charts progress a little more in the right direction.
Solar Cycles
08 December 2015 09:10:38



Not for the first time the Control looks for an Easterly


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I think we need to be looking east for any colder weather until we see a change in the upstream pattern, I still feel an easterly of sorts will take hold for the final third of the month and before that more seasonable albeit changeable spell ahead with TM/PM air.

Crepuscular Ray
08 December 2015 09:18:22
I've managed to be much more relaxed these days by ONLY looking each morning at the MetO 5 day fax charts...I feel fitter and sleep better. It's been a long struggle and even now I do sometimes peek at the 144hr if I'm having a weak day.
If this weans just one TWO member off the madness of the longer range charts, it's been worth it! 😆
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Solar Cycles
08 December 2015 09:57:16

I've managed to be much more relaxed these days by ONLY looking each morning at the MetO 5 day fax charts...I feel fitter and sleep better. It's been a long struggle and even now I do sometimes peek at the 144hr if I'm having a weak day.
If this weans just one TWO member off the madness of the longer range charts, it's been worth it! 😆

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

You make it sound like we need some sort of therapy. 😂😂😂

roger63
08 December 2015 10:05:06

I've managed to be much more relaxed these days by ONLY looking each morning at the MetO 5 day fax charts...I feel fitter and sleep better. It's been a long struggle and even now I do sometimes peek at the 144hr if I'm having a weak day.
If this weans just one TWO member off the madness of the longer range charts, it's been worth it! 😆

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 


Yes the madness of longer range charts.If you cant find anything cold looking in the short term there  is solice in finding the odd bitterly cold ensemble member>however like a mirage they usually fade way as you get closer to the present!


So today's peek at the 240h and 360h GEFS ens.At 240h 50:50 spit mild : cold with most of cold members being anticyclones over or close to the UK.So not a cold airflow as such but enough for a frost or two.And an opportunity for HP to shift into amore favourable posoition although low probability.At 360h 65:35 split with zonal dominant.

Arcus
08 December 2015 10:26:21
There's clearly a lot to be resolved in the mid-term - some very different runs in the T+90 to T+168 period depicting quite a complex set-up in terms of path and intensity of these runner lows and the ridging of high pressure around them. Anything beyond that is even more speculative than usual.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gooner
08 December 2015 10:44:06


Interesting


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
08 December 2015 10:45:07


That's one hell of a temperature contrast


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North Oxfordshire
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Arbroath 1320
08 December 2015 10:49:54



Interesting


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Very interesting indeed. The entire set up seems to be on a knifedge and a tweak here and there in the earlier part of the run, would end up in an entirely different set up. The High over Southern Greenland/Iceland is under attack North and South and very uncertain where this run is going to head from here 


GGTTH
Russwirral
08 December 2015 10:54:13
well then.....

hope and praying this isnt a cold outlier - ive a sneaky suspicion it might be. :(

Proper winter storm that.
Gooner
08 December 2015 11:00:14


A cold feed and good to see , before the HP settles over us


 



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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Charmhills
08 December 2015 11:01:16

Most significant warming of the upper strat to date from the GFS by Xmas really. This would have some impact...


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Frost Hollow
08 December 2015 11:01:33

well then.....

hope and praying this isnt a cold outlier - ive a sneaky suspicion it might be. :(

Proper winter storm that.

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


I was just thinking the same, it would be a snow fest here in the Cairngorms would that and indeed for many Northern areas.


12z will no doubt be completely different 

Arbroath 1320
08 December 2015 11:07:21



A cold feed and good to see , before the HP settles over us


 



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Yes, a stonker of a run if you're into cold weather. A very cold week or so in the lead up to Christmas and then the prospect of a Scandi High developing at the end of the projection. Only 1 run and the chances of it materialising are remote at this stage, but a bit of interest at least. 


 


GGTTH
Gooner
08 December 2015 11:07:36


Most significant warming of the upper strat to date from the GFS by Xmas really. This would have some impact...


https://twitter.com/MattHugo81



Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Lets hope that helps later


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Russwirral
08 December 2015 11:09:51


 


 


Yes, a stonker of a run if you're into cold weather. A very cold week or so in the lead up to Christmas and then the prospect of a Scandi High developing at the end of the projection. Only 1 run and the chances of it materialising are remote at this stage, but a bit of interest at least. 


 


Originally Posted by: Arbroath 1320 

yup - though encouragingly this developed - not in deep FI, but in about a weeks time, just on the edge of FI.


Gooner
08 December 2015 11:37:20


Control hints at something but then desperately tries to bring something from the East


 



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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Nordic Snowman
08 December 2015 11:37:26



A cold feed and good to see , before the HP settles over us


 



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I'd take those charts too, please Marcus


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Solar Cycles
08 December 2015 11:48:40
The control,run has been consistent for the last few days, when I say consistent I mean consistently throwing out different scenarios but all of them showing a colder outlook at least.
kmoorman
08 December 2015 11:59:31
Despite the 'potential' the GFS 6Z ensemble (for down here) is rather uninspiring. Still huge uncertainty.
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Russwirral
08 December 2015 12:01:53

impressive temperature contrast

http://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20151208/06/237/ukmaxtemp.png

Not just the far north in the mix, more of a east/west split.


I remember a scenario like this about 15 yrs ago - maybe more. I remember a stretched deep LP running south west/North east. It was bringing blizzards to northern england, but where i live - i was still being bathed in SW's meaning it was about 10*C . It stayed like that for a few days too. There was a very defined boundary out in the irish sea where the colder air was.  IT took forever for the boundary to reach us.

Wish i knew the date, but the weather was fairly significant - someone should be able to remember.


Retron
08 December 2015 12:31:10
The 0z ECM control run shows high pressure building to the NE at 240, with SE'lies followed by easterlies and then NE'lies by 360. (Note that it's not especially cold though!)
Leysdown, north Kent
Gooner
08 December 2015 12:44:36

The 0z ECM control run shows high pressure building to the NE at 240, with SE'lies followed by easterlies and then NE'lies by 360. (Note that it's not especially cold though!)

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


Cheers Darren


 


The cold would follow


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


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