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Bertwhistle
24 December 2015 13:20:31

6 out of 8 posts on this popular thread, Polar Low; I reckon you're onto something!


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Sevendust
24 December 2015 13:26:07

Without wishing to upset Marcus, The 6z operational is quite an outlier in FI and I notice that GEM have dropped their easterly on the operational.


It does show a way out of the current rut but the likely scenario remains zonal and probably largely mild although less so than recently.

Solar Cycles
24 December 2015 13:44:06


Without wishing to upset Marcus, The 6z operational is quite an outlier in FI and I notice that GEM have dropped their easterly on the operational.


It does show a way out of the current rut but the likely scenario remains zonal and probably largely mild although less so than recently.


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

You'll be telling us Santa isn't real next.😃

Gooner
24 December 2015 14:20:35


Without wishing to upset Marcus, The 6z operational is quite an outlier in FI and I notice that GEM have dropped their easterly on the operational.


It does show a way out of the current rut but the likely scenario remains zonal and probably largely mild although less so than recently.


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Not a problem Dave , yes it is quite an outlier , most likely to return to the 'norm' on the 12z


As you say it does how to get of his current set up ....but unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely .


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctormog
24 December 2015 14:21:15


Without wishing to upset Marcus, The 6z operational is quite an outlier in FI and I notice that GEM have dropped their easterly on the operational.


It does show a way out of the current rut but the likely scenario remains zonal and probably largely mild although less so than recently.


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Perhaps but not totally without support Dave


P6 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-6-1-276.png


P9 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-9-1-264.png 


P11 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-11-1-168.png 


P14 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-14-1-240.png 


P16 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-16-1-264.png 


P20 http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-20-1-156.png 


Gooner
24 December 2015 14:21:43


6 out of 8 posts on this popular thread, Polar Low; I reckon you're onto something!


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


Carry on PL


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
24 December 2015 15:50:43

Back from being festive to find the Easterly could be back on.  The 12z will be interesting to see if the trend can be continued.  So long as we get that WAA going S-N we're in with a chance.  As for the "debate", come on guys lets just enjoy the output and discussion.  Its okay for a divergence of views on here, its what makes it interesting.  Lets be tolerant and accepting of all who seek shelter on two this Christmastime, even if there is a divergence away from models at times.


Here's what the Brazilian



model is showing:


 


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:06:18

Check out the WAA:



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:08:34

An impressive 1050mb Baltic States High: 120 hours:



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:17:08

Will the cold make it on this run?


 


The cold is further west than at the same time on the the 6z:



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
doctormog
24 December 2015 16:17:28
It is interesting to see the good consistency in the early part of this 12z GFS op run when compared with the 06z. How long will it last and will we see an outcome like the 06z run?
nsrobins
24 December 2015 16:18:30
Ignoring the state of the Scottish heathers, it looks like the 12Z GFS is going down a similar track as the 06Z with again a stout block developing to the E at 96hrs keeping the monster storm at bay.
Will the pub run bring an early present down the chimney I wonder?
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:19:54

Battle of the Titans:


1050 mb High vs 930 mb low.


World of Sport



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:22:48

You've got to admire England's ability to keep out of the cold.  Masterful.



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Polar Low
24 December 2015 16:23:33

Indeed Michael signs of a trigger to s/e as per pub run last night jet looks like its digging deeper interesting from gfs



 


It is interesting to see the good consistency in the early part of this 12z GFS op run when compared with the 06z. How long will it last and will we see an outcome like the 06z run?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

doctormog
24 December 2015 16:24:00


You've got to admire England's ability to keep out of the cold.  Masterful.



Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


LOL give it a few hours...


Stormchaser
24 December 2015 16:29:48


That Scandi High is looking mighty fine as of +168.


I'd pose the undercut question but I see meteociel is winning the chart race as usual and has the answer already 


Could be a bit nippy for once!


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Gandalf The White
24 December 2015 16:31:47

Ignoring the state of the Scottish heathers, it looks like the 12Z GFS is going down a similar track as the 06Z with again a stout block developing to the E at 96hrs keeping the monster storm at bay.
Will the pub run bring an early present down the chimney I wonder?

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Perhaps too early to be sure but the 12z looks like it might be shifting the balance between block and Atlantic a little further westwards.


It's interesting how an occasional run throws up a significant block and associated easterly, such as the GEM run of a couple of days ago, then a few ensemble members and now the GFS 12z, apparently one of the more reliable of the four versions per day.


As always, let's see how it evolves, how much support there is in the ensemble and whether ECM is buying any of it (remembering that ECM is supposed to have a bias towards blocking, some suggest.... not that there's been much evidence of late).



 


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52.0N 0.1E


Maunder Minimum
24 December 2015 16:32:08
I really like the Brazilian model and judging from the latest output, it appears that even GEM might have been onto something, so fingers crossed that we could actually end up with something to hope for.
New world order coming.
Arbroath 1320
24 December 2015 16:32:47
Well, well, well. I can see this place being in ramp mode tonight given the last 2 GFS runs. ECM to spoil the party?
GGTTH
Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:33:09

192 and we have -10 uppers over Norfolk with the bubble of cold heading for Doc



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Phil G
24 December 2015 16:33:30
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn19217.gif 

Wow. Ice day for some New Years Day.
Stormchaser
24 December 2015 16:34:08


This is most entertaining!


Shame UKMO is a world away from just +72 hours as it doesn't clear the shortwave east, phasing it with the Atlantic trough instead.


If ECM backs GFS over UKMO then there will be even more cheer than usual tonight, for the heck of it anyway  


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Whether Idle
24 December 2015 16:35:19

Off for a brandy.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.

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