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LeedsLad123
03 January 2016 11:37:39


 


Probably about 95% of the UK population loath the climate and the overwhelming majority couldn't give a toss about extreme weather. The reason it's so despised is the endless dull gloomy skies, frequent rain, wind and lack of settled spells. Light winds and sunshine is what I would class as benign not the miserable depressing rubbish we have to suffer which is getting worse with washout summers and snowless winters now practically an annual occurrence.


As far as I'm concerned the only parts of the Western world that have a more revolting climate are Ireland, Iceland, coastal Norway, Alaska and coastal parts of Canada. None of those places have the concentration of population that the UK has.


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


I know being an angry pessimist is kind of your niche around here - but come on, pack it in. It got boring a long time ago.

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tallyho_83
03 January 2016 11:39:53


 


Probably about 95% of the UK population loath the climate and the overwhelming majority couldn't give a toss about extreme weather. The reason it's so despised is the endless dull gloomy skies, frequent rain, wind and lack of settled spells. Light winds and sunshine is what I would class as benign not the miserable depressing rubbish we have to suffer which is getting worse with washout summers and snowless winters now practically an annual occurrence.


As far as I'm concerned the only parts of the Western world that have a more revolting climate are Ireland, Iceland, coastal Norway, Alaska and coastal parts of Canada. None of those places have the concentration of population that the UK has.


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Yes but even Vancouver and Seattle get's some dry sunny and cold or frosty days as well as proved this winter. They had a week of temperatures that never rose above 5c and there was sunshine during the daytime. The worst is Ireland - Cork, Galway or Limmerick. (For weather of course).

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tallyho_83
03 January 2016 11:41:12


Doctormog!? - Some very mild weather for Yellowknife too - average there should be around -26c right!??

Currently at -7c now and it's the early hours. - almost some 20c above average. Temperatures look set to tumble once again but still remain above.

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/northwest-territories/Yellowknife



Never been to Yellowknife but visited Whitehorse YT, Foxburn lake, Dawson and Klaune/Mt Logan.


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


What is the record high temperature for January in Yellowknife? -Can't be far off it!?

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doctormog
03 January 2016 11:45:40

The January record for Yellowknife is 3.4°C so not really close.


Coincidentally that value was set exactly 30 years ago!

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Solar Cycles
03 January 2016 11:54:40
Winter 2015/16 along with the last four winters have all been a crapfest around here with the only thing separating them in terms of crapiness being each one following was worse than the proceeding one before.
Maunder Minimum
03 January 2016 12:35:30
Another rotten, stinking, stupid weekend in this rotten, sorry excuse for a British winter!
Rained all day yesterday with a repeat performance today!
😬
New world order coming.
Fothergill
03 January 2016 12:41:02


Probably about 95% of the UK population loath the climate and the overwhelming majority couldn't give a toss about extreme weather. The reason it's so despised is the endless dull gloomy skies, frequent rain, wind and lack of settled spells. Light winds and sunshine is what I would class as benign not the miserable depressing rubbish we have to suffer which is getting worse with washout summers and snowless winters now practically an annual occurrence.


As far as I'm concerned the only parts of the Western world that have a more revolting climate are Ireland, Iceland, coastal Norway, Alaska and coastal parts of Canada. None of those places have the concentration of population that the UK has.


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


Also the Faroe Islands, Falkland Islands, Tierra del Fuego to add to the miserable climate list. 

Bertwhistle
03 January 2016 12:44:52


 


Also the Faroe Islands, Falkland Islands, Tierra del Fuego to add to the miserable climate list. 


Originally Posted by: Fothergill 


And this grim place


https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@-49.354874,70.226326,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1s18186246!2e1!3e10!6s%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy%2FuewMKE6-eHb6hDNvErA6QhXuBpeplSw2BkDxf4as4maAWMOuxpLIHwHbp8c6xk8T88uVbo_1c8u-2281M8NFJQONNmQDPQ%3Dw203-h152!7i3648!8i2736


Port aux francais.


Except you could walk uphill a bit and throw a snowball.

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SJV
03 January 2016 13:29:09

Another rotten, stinking, stupid weekend in this rotten, sorry excuse for a British winter!
Rained all day yesterday with a repeat performance today!
😬

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yep, exactly this 


Horrid out there, and a degree colder than yesterday 

Chunky Pea
03 January 2016 14:20:19


As far as I'm concerned the only parts of the Western world that have a more revolting climate are Ireland, Iceland, coastal Norway, Alaska and coastal parts of Canada. None of those places have the concentration of population that the UK has.


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


The climate here in Ireland sure is revolting but I'd take it over that of eastern Scotland any day. Far too pedestrian for me.

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springsunshine
03 January 2016 15:22:02

Another rotten, stinking, stupid weekend in this rotten, sorry excuse for a British winter!
Rained all day yesterday with a repeat performance today!
😬

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


more of the same for at least the next week

Brian Gaze
03 January 2016 15:45:24

This weekend has easily been the worst of the winter to date here. Heavy rain yesterday and today combined with low light levels. At least it's quite mild.

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David M Porter
03 January 2016 16:49:38

Another rotten, stinking, stupid weekend in this rotten, sorry excuse for a British winter!
Rained all day yesterday with a repeat performance today!
😬

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Think you've taken the words right out of richardabdn's mouth!

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ARTzeman
03 January 2016 17:23:23

 Wettest day of the year so far.   14.4mm.  Today...   Glad not to be going out.. 





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Andy Woodcock
03 January 2016 17:54:21


This weekend has easily been the worst of the winter to date here. Heavy rain yesterday and today combined with low light levels. At least it's quite mild.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Welcome to my world Brian, this weekend has been wet and sunless here but with little wind so it's actually slightly better than most in the last two months, indeed with only 12mm of rain falling it feels positively desert like.


The other difference is the lower temperature 5c instead of 12c but I wouldn't call that an improvement.


Andy

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Essan
03 January 2016 18:16:07


This weekend has easily been the worst of the winter to date here. Heavy rain yesterday and today combined with low light levels. At least it's quite mild.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



I could cope with the grey and the wind and the rain, if only it wasnt so sleep-sapping mild

Andy
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David M Porter
03 January 2016 18:30:50


This weekend has easily been the worst of the winter to date here. Heavy rain yesterday and today combined with low light levels. At least it's quite mild.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Sounds like almost a carbon of what we had in my area on so many days between early November & Christmas.

Lenzie, Glasgow

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Justin W
04 January 2016 08:50:42

Yet another filthy morning despite it being 5C and clear.


The view out onto the garden is utterly depressing - mud, pools of standing water and grass that has managed to put on about three inches of growth since early December. The fields around us are running with water and mud and I expect the nailbournes (dry streams that only rise in exceptionally wet years) to run again later this month for the third winter in succession.


We moved up here 10 years ago and this winter is, without doubt, the vilest, most repulsive and appalling season we have experienced on the Downs. It also rivals anything I can remember from the mid 1970s or the terrible winters of 88/89 and 89/90 which were, at least, fairly dry. If this is our climate now, I want out!

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tallyho_83
04 January 2016 11:42:02

Winter has arrived in Moscow sitting at -20c as well as the Slavic countries:

-11c in Warsaw - Poland
-15c in Kiev - Ukraine
-16c in Minsk - Belarus
-6c in Prague -Czech Republic
-8 in Bratislava - Slovakia
-4c in Zagreb - Croatia
-7c in Sofia -Bulgaria
-6c in Belgrade - Serbia




Budapest is at -10c with heavy snow - (first heavy & accumulating snow they have seen since 2013 according to my friends).
Vienna is at -6c with snow




Back home what's the weather like? -Looks out the window to see overcast weather with rain and a temperature of +12c!

So much for their above average temperatures for eastern Europe/Baltics and western Russia as the MET OFFICE forecasted:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/images/prob_ensemble/20151201/3up_20151201_temp2m_months24_europe_prob_public.png



 

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LeedsLad123
04 January 2016 11:46:42

Tally - December was exceptionally warm in eastern and northern Europe, there is still 27 days of January left + 60 days in February/March. There is every change that the above map will be correct.

Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Saint Snow
04 January 2016 11:55:06

I just said in the MO thread that I think this winter has a 2012/13 feel to it, and cold spells will be relatively brief, but with a few 'surprise' snowfall events (away from the south)


Although I remember not being that enamoured with the 2012/13 winter at the time (still spoilt after 2009/10 & 2010/11 winters), I'd happily take a repeat.


 


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LeedsLad123
04 January 2016 12:02:04


I just said in the MO thread that I think this winter has a 2012/13 feel to it, and cold spells will be relatively brief, but with a few 'surprise' snowfall events (away from the south)


Although I remember not being that enamoured with the 2012/13 winter at the time (still spoilt after 2009/10 & 2010/11 winters), I'd happily take a repeat.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


It was a great winter here as far as I'm concerned. Jan, Feb and March all had at least one decent fall of 13cm or more. We had a week+ of snow cover in late January, with a few days of consecutivesnow cover in late March + further falls mid-month, with snow drifts persisting into April.


It then resulted in a pretty decent summer with the warmest July since 2006 and one of the top 10 warmest on record, followed by a less-warm but still above average August, with thunderstorms.


I would take a repeat every year. Felt like a continental climate.

Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Fothergill
04 January 2016 13:38:19


It was a great winter here as far as I'm concerned. Jan, Feb and March all had at least one decent fall of 13cm or more. We had a week+ of snow cover in late January, with a few days of consecutivesnow cover in late March + further falls mid-month, with snow drifts persisting into April.


It then resulted in a pretty decent summer with the warmest July since 2006 and one of the top 10 warmest on record, followed by a less-warm but still above average August, with thunderstorms.


I would take a repeat every year. Felt like a continental climate.


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


We had about a foot of snow which didn't melt for a week January 2013 so I'd take that winter in a heartbeat. The rest of the winter though was a bit rubbish including March as we missed out on all the snow somehow.

Essan
04 January 2016 14:14:55


I just said in the MO thread that I think this winter has a 2012/13 feel to it, and cold spells will be relatively brief, but with a few 'surprise' snowfall events (away from the south)


Although I remember not being that enamoured with the 2012/13 winter at the time (still spoilt after 2009/10 & 2010/11 winters), I'd happily take a repeat.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


To be honest, I would rather see no snow at all than the slush-fest of Jan-Mar 2013 ....   Never before had so much snow fallen for so long for so little effect .....

But I agree, if we get anything much this winter it may well be of a very similar nature.

Andy
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Saint Snow
04 January 2016 14:32:54


 


It was a great winter here as far as I'm concerned. Jan, Feb and March all had at least one decent fall of 13cm or more. We had a week+ of snow cover in late January, with a few days of consecutivesnow cover in late March + further falls mid-month, with snow drifts persisting into April.


It then resulted in a pretty decent summer with the warmest July since 2006 and one of the top 10 warmest on record, followed by a less-warm but still above average August, with thunderstorms.


I would take a repeat every year. Felt like a continental climate.


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


 


None of the snowfalls here got to anything like 30cm, but we had 4 distinct ones (2 Jan, 2 Mar) where the depth was over 5cm (2 or 3 of which were at least 10cm)


The March falls in particular surprised me, as they came from an easterly - not normally very productive here for snow (eg, in the entirety of the '87 cold spell, we got a 5 minute flurry one morning). Where I work in Manchester got vurtually no snow - it was intriguing to see the radar deposit loads of snow on the eastern side of the Pennines, then some serious ppn fragmentation, before the cloud rebuilt just west of Manchester & gave S Lancs/Merseyside/Cheshire a decent fall (and North Wales an absolute dumping - 50cm+ wasn't uncommon, even at pretty low elevations)


And, as you say, the summer of 2013 was none too shabby either, with July being a scorcher.


I'd agree, I'd happily take a repeat of 2013


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