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Maunder Minimum
11 January 2016 21:12:47


Based on the output we have seen over the last few days I think it would be foolish to discount the possibility of snow, no matter how small the risk. For all we know that small channel low feature that has been picked up and dropped a few times by the UKMO, GFS and ECM could suddenly re-appear providing a very different picture on Thurs/ Fri ?


Here is the Met Office fax chart.


Sub 524 dam air, convective troughs, weak disturbances, light winds..January...potential.



Discounting the options post 48 hours is perhaps a little premature at this stage. 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


That is yesterday's fax chart - here is today's for Thursday at 12:00


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax72s.gif?1


 


New world order coming.
Gusty
11 January 2016 21:15:34


 


Yes Steve, its a possibility. 


 


Snow in the south on Thursday/ Friday is a possibility (IMHO a very low one), tomorrow may shed a little more clarity on an unclear picture.


Those forecasting the return of the slug may find the models tomorrow deliver some blue pellets.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 



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Whether Idle
11 January 2016 21:21:55


HUGE uncertainty at 144 illustrated on this chart- look at the spread to the NW


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Gusty
11 January 2016 21:25:30


HUGE uncertainty at 144 illustrated on this chart- look at the spread to the NW


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Yes..what is also very certain is deep cold just to our east at 144 hours too. 


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Whether Idle
11 January 2016 21:28:26


 


Yes..what is also very certain is deep cold just to our east at 144 hours too. 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Getting that across the North Sea is the big challenge.  Still, there's enough uncertainty for it still to be a possibility.


...We could be heroes.....just for one day...


...more like the laughing gnome


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Gandalf The White
11 January 2016 21:33:13


 


Getting that across the North Sea is the big challenge.  Still, there's enough uncertainty for it still to be a possibility.


...We could be heroes.....just for one day...


...more like the laughing gnome


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


More like 'Ground control to Major Tom'



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Whether Idle
11 January 2016 21:34:44


 


More like 'Ground control to Major Tom'



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
doctormog
11 January 2016 21:35:46


 


More like 'Ground control to Major Tom'



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Or instead of stratospheric warming we could have Space Oddity? 


Whether Idle
11 January 2016 21:37:19


 


Or instead of stratospheric warming we could have Space Oddity? 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Ashes to Ashes for the Slug?


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Deep Powder
11 January 2016 21:42:06
Ditch the modern winter and just embrace modern love!
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Gooner
11 January 2016 21:44:07


 


That is yesterday's fax chart - here is today's for Thursday at 12:00


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/fax/fax72s.gif?1


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


And its a good one in terms of how far South the 528 is


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
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Col
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11 January 2016 21:44:12


 


Ashes to Ashes for the Slug?


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Let's dance to that!


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David M Porter
11 January 2016 21:44:53

Or Dancing in the Street if UKMO 12z at 144hrs verifies and GFS and ECM 12z op runs at that timeframe are proved wrong?



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Brian Gaze
11 January 2016 21:47:18


 I think that the cold is there and e precipitation - just possibly not at the same time, or in the south at least. Details and confidence at this range would have to be very limited. As for snow in the south, I wouldn't rule it out even at lower levels at times (as suggested by the Met Office) but I certainly would not forecast it with any confidence or high probability yet.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


That's close to the mark I think. I'm still expecting to see a few flakes of snow here this week, just not expecting it to amount to much.


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doctormog
11 January 2016 21:47:54
So, time for the pub run (programmed by those young Americans at the GFS). Will the blocking once again come under pressure by the weekend?
Gooner
11 January 2016 21:48:04


 


Ashes to Ashes for the Slug?


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Well if the slug goes I will be Dancing in the street


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gusty
11 January 2016 21:48:58

Modern Winter (sorry !) Modern Love  was one of my faves 


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JACKO4EVER
11 January 2016 21:49:28
More like "she shook me cold"
In gooners dreams.......
David M Porter
11 January 2016 21:50:00


 


 


Let's dance to that!


Originally Posted by: Col 


If GFS and ECM 12z op runs at 144hrs verify, it won't be Panic in Detroit, it'll be Panic in the TWO model thread!



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festivalking
11 January 2016 21:50:01
Just hope tonight's gfs is the Starman and does a flip!
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Its only going to snow when Gibby says so.
Whether Idle
11 January 2016 21:50:37

So, time for the pub run (programmed by those young Americans at the GFS). Will the blocking once again come under pressure by the weekend?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I for one hope the GFS pubrun decides to Rebel Rebel against its previous runs.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Gusty
11 January 2016 21:53:02

Let's hope for some changes on the 18z 


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Gooner
11 January 2016 21:53:36

Just hope tonight's gfs is the Starman and does a flip!

Originally Posted by: festivalking 


Let's be honest the weather is making us all  look like  Absolute Beginners


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
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nickl
11 January 2016 21:56:06
James posted last evening re the apparent unexpected re strengthening of the jet and flattening of the pattern, especially on the usually amplified fi ECM. he mused it may be connected to the potential warming high up in the strat. Recently we've seen quite a disconnect between the trop pattern and the very strong strat p/v. if there were to be a strat warming, we would want to see it downwell effectively (and quickly at this time of year) to force changes in the trop. If James has seen this potential 'flushing down' of the strong zonal flow prior to an SSW, then I can live with the de amplification in the hope that the pain of the zonality will be short lived and February will deliver a very cold spell.

However, it would just be our luck that an SSW doesn't deliver for us and it's onset destroys the amplification we had sought for the whole winter!
Deep Powder
11 January 2016 22:02:40

Let's ask the 'The Jean Genie' of the lamp what GFS will give us......


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