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beanoir
12 January 2016 21:45:25


My turn now. I am a fan of what is going on at the stratospheric 30 hpa level and for a good few days the GFS has been consistent in showing what I think is a major wobble at around the 28th with the upper atmospheric vortex fighting for survival. Yes, it is a long way off in forecasting terms and it's all tenuous stuff but when I'm seeing output like this showing up on the charts, I get this "you ain't seen nothing yet" feeling . . .
 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


It's about February... 


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 January 2016 21:45:34

Beeb seem confident of the mild air coming through next week maybe snowy breakdown though.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35298605


 


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David M Porter
12 January 2016 21:49:24

12z ECM ens are quite something if its cold your after.

Great debate tonight- handbags and cotton gloves aside

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


My feeling has always been that unless either of today's UKMO runs jumped on board with the GFS and ECM solutions of the last day or so, there was still room for some doubt as to what happens after the weekend. Much as GFS was dogedly sticking to it's version of bringing the atlantic back in early next week, UKMO has been every bit as stubborn in persisting with it's version.


UKMO may not go as far ahead as ECM and GFS, but it is still every bit as important a player IMO.


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Gooner
12 January 2016 21:55:15

O/T


A Deakin ...signs of milder weather next week


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Rob K
12 January 2016 21:55:44
GFS still showing a reasonable amount of white stuff Thursday night.

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/18_60_preciptype.png?cb=783 

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The Beast from the East
12 January 2016 22:00:25
Alex Deakin says turning mild and wet next week on the extended outlook at 9.55pm. Clearly MOGREPs and their other data favours the jet to power through
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Maunder Minimum
12 January 2016 22:04:46

Alex Deakin says turning mild and wet next week on the extended outlook at 9.55pm. Clearly MOGREPs and their other data favours the jet to power through

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yet, this is not a million miles from the UKMO run:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011218/gfs-0-102.png?18


All it needs is some trough disruption and a slider low.


New world order coming.
Gusty
12 January 2016 22:07:00

Energy just starting to head NE'wards at 114 hours.



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SJV
12 January 2016 22:07:20


Beeb seem confident of the mild air coming through next week maybe snowy breakdown though.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35298605


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Heavily mentioned yes, but very tentative language used. Highlights the uncertainty 


#strawclutching 

Gusty
12 January 2016 22:09:26

Block now putting up wonderful resistance..atlantic retreating at 126 !



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doctormog
12 January 2016 22:09:49


 


Heavily mentioned yes, but very tentative language used. Highlights the uncertainty 


#strawclutching 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Yes, the main point in that forecast was, like the models, the uncertainty. I would advise people to watch it on the link provided earlier and make up their own mind as the perception you get may be different than what was actually said in the forecast. 


The early stages of the pub run look largely similar to the 12z GFS op with small changes creeping in to the midterm.


Chiltern Blizzard
12 January 2016 22:10:32

Alex Deakin says turning mild and wet next week on the extended outlook at 9.55pm. Clearly MOGREPs and their other data favours the jet to power through

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


well, for all the 'excitement', ECM op does show it turning milder on 12z by the middle of next week.... Surprising he mentioned it though given apparent uncertainty, even if MOGREPs are trending that way currently.


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 January 2016 22:11:30


 


Heavily mentioned yes, but very tentative language used. Highlights the uncertainty 


#strawclutching 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


Seemed annoyingly confident of a return to mild by the end of next week though. Be Interesting to see the ECM London ensembles tonight.


 


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Gooner
12 January 2016 22:11:40


Bit of a delay again when you compare with the 12z


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Notty
12 January 2016 22:11:59
GFS 18z 132 showing cold air pushing Atlantic back more 🙂
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Gusty
12 January 2016 22:12:04

Snow event still being progged at 132.



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Maunder Minimum
12 January 2016 22:13:17

Well the GFS 18z following UKMO at 138:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011218/gfs-0-138.png?18


The trough does indeed dig into Europe


New world order coming.
Gusty
12 January 2016 22:15:05

138 and we have another slider, snow event for the SW on Monday. A theme developing. -10c 850Hpa's closer to Eastern England and Scotland 



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Gooner
12 January 2016 22:16:58


No Atlantic rush yet then, HP stays over the UK


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Karl Guille
12 January 2016 22:17:02
GFS 18z at T144 has the cold holding on in the east and south-east and looks with every run to be enhancing the possibility of cold continuing into next week.
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Rob K
12 January 2016 22:17:24

What a difference 24 hours makes. Yesterday's 12Z had rain having pushed right across the country by Monday morning:



 


Tonight it shows the front struggling into the southwest and falling as snow:



 


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Gooner
12 January 2016 22:18:02


138 and we have another slider, snow event for the SW on Monday. A theme developing. -10c 850Hpa's closer to Eastern England and Scotland 



Originally Posted by: Gusty 


It might not even get that far when the time comes Steve


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Gusty
12 January 2016 22:18:19

144. Looks as if the next atlantic low will bring milder air.


Much much better output today for coldies. Off to bed now. 



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Rob K
12 January 2016 22:18:37

And that's as far as it gets before it fizzles.

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/18_138_preciptype.png?cb=905


 


Unfortunately the angle is all wrong for the next low, which pushes straight over the top.


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Notty
12 January 2016 22:18:42
By 144 gfs has Atlantic pushed back and no snow event 😞
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