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LeedsLad123
02 February 2016 18:09:23

Today in Leeds..



Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Nick Gilly
02 February 2016 19:00:15

I saw this mentioned at the end of the 6 o'clock news and wondered if nacreous clouds were responsible for the weird pink/purple glow in the sky after sunset. It was reflecting in the eastern sky at first but shrank back to the west as it got darker. It was apparently associated with what looked like a layer of cirrus or cirrostratus on the western horizon. I've not seen 'normal' clouds do that to the sky before though.

Thoughts anyone? I'm in north Hampshire.

SJV
02 February 2016 19:13:19

Very faint here this evening, mainly because I had the camera  Hoping for a more vivid display in the early morning, as it was quite impressive this morning 


Windy Willow
02 February 2016 19:42:07

I managed to catch this on my way home from Dartford Station this evening. Granted it's not as good as some of the other pictures posted but I guess this is the best we get this far south!


 



South Holland, Lincs 5m/16ft ASL

Don't feed the Trolls!! When starved of attention they return to their dark caves or the dark recesses of bridges and will turn back to stone, silent again!
Nick Gilly
02 February 2016 20:02:21


I managed to catch this on my way home from Dartford Station this evening. Granted it's not as good as some of the other pictures posted but I guess this is the best we get this far south!


 



Originally Posted by: Windy Willow 


 


Yes that looks just like the sky did here just after sunset so it must have been nacreous clouds responsible.

Arcus
02 February 2016 20:45:06


 


 


Yes that looks just like the sky did here just after sunset so it must have been nacreous clouds responsible.


Originally Posted by: Nick Gilly 


No, that's mid level stuff. If you see them you'd now, believe me - they are at 80,000 feet. Some fantastic displays up here last few sunrise/sunsets.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Rob K
02 February 2016 21:27:02


Today in Leeds..



Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


I may be wrong but aren't nacreous clouds only visible once the sun is below the horizon? This looks like iridescence in ordinary cirrus to me - albeit quite a spectacular example!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
LeedsLad123
02 February 2016 21:32:21


 


I may be wrong but aren't nacreous clouds only visible once the sun is below the horizon? This looks like iridescence in ordinary cirrus to me - albeit quite a spectacular example!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


In my mind it's 'Look, pretty colours!' and that's about it I'm afraid.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Highlander
02 February 2016 23:42:48


 


I may be wrong but aren't nacreous clouds only visible once the sun is below the horizon? This looks like iridescence in ordinary cirrus to me - albeit quite a spectacular example!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


No, I think you are confusing with noctilucent clouds which are similar though without the colours, and often visible in the summer long after sunset in the north, think they are lower than these. These are certainly nacreous with that brightness and colour. I watched a high altitude plane leaving a vapour trail today over Scotland which was clearly forming in front of these clouds. Assuming the plane was at about 35,000ft gave an idea of just how high they are.

Rob K
03 February 2016 02:29:52


 


 


No, I think you are confusing with noctilucent clouds which are similar though without the colours, and often visible in the summer long after sunset in the north, think they are lower than these. These are certainly nacreous with that brightness and colour. I watched a high altitude plane leaving a vapour trail today over Scotland which was clearly forming in front of these clouds. Assuming the plane was at about 35,000ft gave an idea of just how high they are.


Originally Posted by: Highlander 


 


The DM article on nacreous clouds says they are about 70,000 feet (I have seen other sources say 50-80,000ft) which is higher than cirrus clouds (30,000 feet ish) but lower than noctilucent clouds (which are around 50 miles, or 250,000ft!)


So yes those probably are nacreous, although I have also seen some photos of iridescent cirrus clouds in the past few days.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Chunky Pea
03 February 2016 08:51:54


More photos here:


http://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2012/12/10/nacreous-or-mother-of-pearl-cloud-sightings/


The Times had an article today which tried to show a correlation with the onset of seriously cold weather. Presummably these clouds show disturbances in the stratosphere which could be linked (at least in a sub-editor's mind) to an outbreak of SSW.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


I have to admit that I am a little intrigued by this comment in that blog post:


 


"This eye-catching cloud is rarely seen, and has only been sighted in polar regions (such as Scotland and Norway) in the winter months"


 


Since when did Scotland's location become regarded as being in a 'polar region'? 


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Arcus
03 February 2016 12:27:26
Some more pictures from my locale here:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/pics/galleries/amazingsky/0/ 

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
nouska
03 February 2016 13:35:53


 


I wondered if these were caused by the severe disturbance in the Troposphere from recent storms active below the current Polar Vortex displacement overhead? Presume waves of moist air being shifted upwards in to lower Strat? They do seem to indicate some sort of quite turbulent interaction between the Troposphere and Stratosphere. As it is so rare for them to be seen like this here, the question is what are the unusual factors causing this and do the models pick this up. A big question!


Originally Posted by: Highlander 


From what I have read, the cloud formation needs stratospheric temperatures to be -80C or colder. This has certainly been the case in recent days with the stratospheric vortex cold core pushed way south east of its usual position.


Chart from Icelandic weather services show the displacement at 30mb, with very cold air over the UK.


 


Fothergill
03 February 2016 22:24:37


From what I have read, the cloud formation needs stratospheric temperatures to be -80C or colder. This has certainly been the case in recent days with the stratospheric vortex cold core pushed way south east of its usual position.


Chart from Icelandic weather services show the displacement at 30mb, with very cold air over the UK.


Originally Posted by: nouska 


When might the conditions be right see them again? I missed the ones recently.

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