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Bertwhistle
19 July 2016 21:48:37

Anybody else seeing temperature rises under clear skies. I posted a few minutes ago on current conditions but it's gone up further since! After a 32.6C day, and 28C at 8.15 when I got home from work, it dropped to just below 25C half an hour ago. It's now heading up, 25.1 at 10.35, 25.3 at 1045. The sky is about 2 oktas and the wind is light, with a few moderate gusts. Is this all to do with rapidly increasing 850s?


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picturesareme
19 July 2016 21:52:01
Yeah it's normal after warm days...


It happens here because warm pockets & cool pockets begin to mix... Like gardens & built up streets in cities.

Also the mainland is still very warm so for example E/NE wind would bring warmth with NE but E will mix with cooler sea air.
Bertwhistle
19 July 2016 22:00:32

Yeah it's normal after warm days...


It happens here because warm pockets & cool pockets begin to mix... Like gardens & built up streets in cities.

Also the mainland is still very warm so for example E/NE wind would bring warmth with NE but E will mix with cooler sea air.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Thanks for the reply, but it's not normal here in summer, under clear, calm conditions. I see it frequently with changing air-masses in winter- but I'm now at 25.5 and the wind is really light( there is more cloud now heading in from the WSW, but I understand that the cloud reduces the speed with which temperature falls away, rather than actually warming things in summer, or is that too simplistic?)


Last year on 1st July there were early dips and falls by a few tenths, resulting in a very warm night. Looking at the synoptics I'm wondering if the radiative nature of the near-surface warmth is tempered somewhat by the increase in the uppers- close to 20 tonight.


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picturesareme
19 July 2016 22:03:35
It's no different though to during the day.. When on the up the temps dip up & down but the over all pattern will be up..

On a night it's reverses and that's more notable with very warm air in place.

The same happens even on frosty winter nights.
TimS
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19 July 2016 22:04:49

I think condensation heating will have something to do with it, especially if there are clouds starting to form. Stable temperatures + rising humidity = condensation which means warming. Any dampness on the grass?


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Bertwhistle
19 July 2016 22:12:40


I think condensation heating will have something to do with it, especially if there are clouds starting to form. Stable temperatures + rising humidity = condensation which means warming. Any dampness on the grass?


Originally Posted by: TimS 


Cheers Tim; your answer made sense to me, but the grass is actually surprisingly dry. The temperature is now down to 25.4 and it feels weird stepping out- I truly expected dew but there is none (that I can feel). Yesterday morning the grass was wet until nearly midday (in full sun). I suppose this unusual evening doesn't fit the frequent patterns and I have just been derailed by it!



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Bertwhistle
19 July 2016 22:15:19

It's no different though to during the day.. When on the up the temps dip up & down but the over all pattern will be up..

On a night it's reverses and that's more notable with very warm air in place.

The same happens even on frosty winter nights.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


I'm going to have to go with your thoughts on this Pics, a kind of natural variability on the short time scale; let you know if anything freaky happens tomorrow!


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Rich mt
19 July 2016 22:36:18

Yeap, temps have been rising here too, it's went from 26.3C about an hour ago then rose to 26.8C for a while now back down to 26.4C.
The unusually warm wind, bright moon and sheets of alto cumulus, what an evening.
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picturesareme
19 July 2016 23:10:41
Yes deffo on the rise proper as it now 27C from 26.2C that it was just over an hour ago
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20 July 2016 06:49:53

Here it started to fall as wind dropped out, then rose markedy as it picked up - both in the late evening and this morning.

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