Not merely current but all the way into FI. Meto forecast for Chichester has the next 7 days without a glimmer of sun anywhen.

And in the meantime, we coldies are forced to watch the cold stuff heading off into southern Europe, where it is probably as unwelcome as it would be welcome here. All the above average temps for the next 10 days are from Great Britain up into Scandinavia.

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html 

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Roll on spring when no doubt northern blocking and southerly tracking lows will show their hand in abundance.😂

Nobody is going to leave the UK because winters are getting milder. Most people in the real world don't like cold or snow. 

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I love cold and snow, but I wouldn't leave the UK for it. If we could afford it though, I would take an extended winter holiday somewhere which gets proper weather.

Perhaps in Alaska or the Canadian Rockies or northern Norway.

[edit] or Greece or the Levant

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Yesterday somebody posted a pic on my website of snow they'd had in... Lebanon! 

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A touch of frost here this morning which I was surprised to see with a keen breeze too so felt quite chilly.

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Haha doesn't surprise me! I think even Cairo got a covering of snow a couple of years ago, first time in 100 yrs or something like that.

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Well, I won't post this in the model thread, but I feel safe posting it here.

Winter Is Over!

Yes, it is official. The zonal train has left the station, all the lovely cold is headed into north America and that means it will be zonal all the way from here until March.

Expect the same next winter 2017-18

And 2018-19

And 2019-20

This country will never, ever have a decent winter ever again!

Now I am off for a few beers!

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Presumably from one of the ski resorts or surrounding areas? I've always fancied a trip to the Cedars - given its location and the fact the top is over 10000ft I would expect snow to be almost guaranteed. 

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Yuk!  What a horrible day, although it never really got light so I feel like I've missed a day. Dark, damp and miserable!  

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Yes Caz - feels like we are living through an eternal night at the moment - grey from dawn to dusk, black from dusk to dawn.

Who switched out the lights?

My WIO post above was largely tongue in cheek, but our winter climate has become exceedingly dull and depressing.

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Aww, don't be so hard on yourself Caz! You're not that bad! 

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Yes it's like groundhog day at the moment. Revolting weather, and gone are the lovely misty sunrises we were getting before the real dank set in 

I'll happily welcome a pre-Christmas storm to blow this muck away 

 Had I known you were lurking JB, I'd have chosen my words more carefully!  

 

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That reminded me that someone on here mentioned the lingering twilight around the summer solstice, when it never quite gets dark.   At the moment we seem to have a lingering dawn, when it never seems to get light.   

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I once had a lingering dawn....she just wouldn't take no for an answer! 

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Dull again, give me a clear, dry frosty spell any day!

If it's going to be Dull I'd rather a stormy dull however I wouldn't wish that on people over Christmas as we know the issues that could cause.

* taps fingers and waits patiently

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Today is actually lovely here - the sun has been shining since around 9:30, the wind is light, and the temperature is 10C.

The forecast was going for cloud all day, so I'm pleasantly surprised.

If most days in winter were like this, I'd be very content. 

(not a moan, I know - but there's no happy equivalent. )

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Yes. It actually got light here this afternoon. A dark gloomy morning but we had a couple of hours of daylight later.  

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Lifts hungover head off the pillow, looks out the window and oh look......mist and fog again...roll on Halloween 

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Looks like another Christmas with boring mild(ish) weather is on the cards. No frost or snow. Not even a decent storm either side.

And yet several FB friends in America are moaning about the snow they have at the moment. Looks like no one is ever satisfied where ever they live!  

Morning, it's actually bright with winter sunshine at this end, seems that them thar hills to the north of the town is having the effect of filtering out the murky stuff trying to come in from there.

Also a somewhat chilly 6.9 C.

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Still can't believe that people on here still defending yet another abysmal LRF from the experts in the publicly subsidised BBC and Met office?

Whilst we watch the weather and the computer models for some kind of warped "fun" and wish for the weather of our choice, they are paid professionals and they often get the probabilities so badly wrong and that in turn proves costly for so many who rely on them getting it vaguely correct.

Should we not just now accept anything beyond 4 or 5 days is costly and pointless and not waste money on it. It doesn't mean that us weather voyeurs can't spend hours after hours trying to give it our best guess.

On the positive side And I know this is the morning thread, but I wonder how many of our loved, frail and elderly friends and family get to see another year or two, based on this so very mild winter yet again?

How do you get a probability wrong?

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The probabilities are fine but the actual presentation was much more vocal for a front loaded winter doc, that is what many are complaining at. For me now I'll revert back to binning all LRF as we still can't forecasts beyond ten days with any degree of accuracy. Now where's my seaweed and pine cones. 😜