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David M Porter
08 April 2017 17:42:36


In a nutshell, we are overdue a 1976-style Summer - mind you, that one was more noted for the prolonged dryness rather than heat records. But I guess we are at this time of the year where hopes and expectations are high for the summer when it usually ends up being a crushing let down, a bit like come Autumn we start hoping we go onto a 1947-style winter.  

But I think I'm missing the point of this thread. Yes, I do think a 40 C will be breached before 2020 but in the form of a short-lived blink-and-you'd-miss-it event, and then go onto becoming a near-yearly event most summers by 2040. I'd be in my 70's by then, more older and grumpier than I am.  


Originally Posted by: idj20 


IIRC the summer of 1995 actually ended up as slightly drier overall than that of 1976, but 1976 was a hotter summer overall than 1995.

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Solar Cycles
08 April 2017 18:14:29
Two pages and not a single argument about AGW. This thread needs moving into the climate section. 😜
Hungry Tiger
08 April 2017 19:19:59

40C is definately possible - and it isn't new it was almost certainly expeienced in the early middle ages warming era. For example evidence shows that maize was grown in widespread form in East Anglia at that time.


Thsi era now is showing a warming trend and good job it is. If it was the opposite - we'd be in serious trouble.


This year no way am I getting excited about the summer especially after what nice springs have led to this past decade.


 

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09 April 2017 06:42:43


40C is definately possible - and it isn't new it was almost certainly expeienced in the early middle ages warming era. For example evidence shows that maize was grown in widespread form in East Anglia at that time.


Thsi era now is showing a warming trend and good job it is. If it was the opposite - we'd be in serious trouble.


This year no way am I getting excited about the summer especially after what nice springs have led to this past decade.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Unlikely since it's a North American crop unknown in Europe until much later.

The high records are always in Urban or Industrial sites, as tarmac and concrete spread across ever wider areas.
These surfaces heat up dramatically more than fields and trees, then retain heat which is released overnight keeping urban minimums much higher.

In Europe's 2003 big hot spell it was also very dry so after most crops were harvested, sun-baked land behaved in a similar way.
We saw the same thing in the UK 1975/76 to some extent with most grassland completely parched away from western hills.
There has been nothing remotely comparable to the periods with 30C+ widespread on consecutive days we saw in those years.
Even the special UHI hotspots rarely see more than a handful of days around 30C 

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some faraway beach
09 April 2017 09:15:21
I remember in early summer 2007 punters were falling over themselves to bet on another hot summer following the events of 2006. They were taking crazily short prices that 100 fahrenheit would be recorded that year (I recall laying over £150 at as short as 5/1 on Betfair - five to one, for goodness' sake, about something that had only happened once since records began!).

Here we are, 13 years on from 2003, yet we still haven't seen even 100 fahrenheit again. And that's only 37.8C, never mind 40C.

It's good to see the data offered in GW's posts above, concerning averages over the last half century. I like data. But we're not talking about an average of a month's overall day-and-night temperatures here. We're concerned with one individual, daytime weather event, and weather isn't generated by averages. It's the other way round.






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Ulric
09 April 2017 10:48:19
The thing that is concerning me is how dry everything is. Local ditches and streams are dry and the soil is like concrete.
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Gandalf The White
09 April 2017 11:06:43

The thing that is concerning me is how dry everything is. Local ditches and streams are dry and the soil is like concrete.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Yes, it's the same here: the extensive mud and puddles of February have given way to what looks akin to conditions you'd find in mid-summer.


But with Easter coming there's every likelihood of a sustained period of cold, wet weather.


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Ulric
09 April 2017 12:09:44
How dry has it been so far this year? Is it just me who thinks rainfall has been very low?
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speckledjim
09 April 2017 13:33:41


 


Yes, it's the same here: the extensive mud and puddles of February have given way to what looks akin to conditions you'd find in mid-summer.


But with Easter coming there's every likelihood of a sustained period of cold, wet weather.



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Still plenty of moisture in the soil up here (makes weeding a breeze!) though it's definitely drier than normal

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PFCSCOTTY
09 April 2017 16:36:24

The thing that is concerning me is how dry everything is. Local ditches and streams are dry and the soil is like concrete.

Originally Posted by: Ulric 


 


in total agreement, where I live the meon river and flood plains are normally under water for at least 1-2 months every winter....this year, the river has not flooded at all and the ground is like concrete! ...somebody was saying how green the spring was, I think if this is maintained in the south at least, the grass will very soon stop growing and turn yellow....but will we be allowed to water it? 


 


Exceptional winter for all the wrong reasons! 

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