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Matty H
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16 July 2013 22:12:43
Seeing as we've got ages of this yet [sn_bsmil]

Days and days of heat to come
Hamptonian
16 July 2013 23:00:35

Temperatures really crawling down tonight.


Midnight temperature of 21.7c.

LeedsLad123
16 July 2013 23:01:59
The BBC further ahead forecast shows 38C as the maximum possible temperature for Heathrow next week - even 33C for Leeds.
Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Matty H
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16 July 2013 23:02:55

Temperatures really crawling down tonight.


Midnight temperature of 21.7c.

Originally Posted by: Hamptonian 



A fair bit cooler here at 18.1c. Warmer than last night at this time though
Downpour
16 July 2013 23:05:15
This heatwave is taking the proverbial now. It just rolls on and on. Spirit of 1976.
Chingford
London E4
147ft
Gooner
17 July 2013 00:01:45

Yeah! well cool here 21c ...............not


 


Sweating like a good un


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hamptonian
17 July 2013 00:04:36


Temperatures really crawling down tonight.


Midnight temperature of 21.7c.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



A fair bit cooler here at 18.1c. Warmer than last night at this time though

Originally Posted by: Hamptonian 


I think we'll struggle to make the 18c minimum here at this rate. Still up at 21c

haghir22
17 July 2013 05:55:39
Now that was an uncomfortable night. Both kids up and down, seriously broken sleep.
YNWA
Fun in the Sun
17 July 2013 06:27:14
Low of 18.9c last night, was 22.1c at midnight 90f today I think less hazy than this ime yesterday.
Ed
Location: Teddington SW London 14m asl

'Kid in the snow, way to go, it only happens once a year, it only happens once a lifetime, make the most of it.'

'Fox in the Snow' - Belle and Sebastian.
Downpour
17 July 2013 06:35:51

Now that was an uncomfortable night. Both kids up and down, seriously broken sleep.

Originally Posted by: haghir22 



Nasty. Hottest night in years.
Chingford
London E4
147ft
Matty H
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17 July 2013 06:44:41
Wasn't too bad here overnight. Certainly warm, but nothing the tower fans couldn't overcome. Currently 17c here, which is a couple of degrees warmer than it was this time yesterday.
idj20
17 July 2013 07:02:25

Slept like a log last night as it felt fairly comfortable. So far, I've been escaping the worse of the heat and humidity (as if you didn't know that by now) but all that could change as we go into next week going by the model outputs, but that's a long way off in forecasting terms.


Folkestone Harbour. 
ghawes
17 July 2013 07:11:52

Another gloriously sunny and warm morning here in what has been the best week of summery weather for years. This makes me wince though...


 


Outlook for Friday to Sunday:


A lot of dry hot and sunny weather on Friday and the weekend, though turning less warm towards the east with an increasing chance of coastal haar.


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/ta/



Graeme
East Neuk of Fife



speckledjim
17 July 2013 07:19:37

Low of 14.3c last night, glad i'm not down sarf.....


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Gooner
17 July 2013 08:08:58

Crap nights sleep.............oh sorry thats right I didnt get any


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Ally Pally Snowman
17 July 2013 08:12:14

Kew Gardens actually beat the mighty Heathrow yesterday with a max of 31.2c.


90f possible today.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
17 July 2013 08:16:58

I've found it surpprisingly easy to sleep during this warm spell. Mind you, anything is easier than trying to sleep in a tent, as I was attempting to do a few days ago!

Expecting today to be the hottest day so far but reckon next week could be hotter still.

picturesareme
17 July 2013 08:21:49
Regarding the metoffice heat health warning does anybody else think that it should be upgraded to take into account that in the bigger towns & cities temperatures are quite likely to reach or exceed the threshold regardless of what they forecast. I get the impression that when they have their range of potential max temps for a location they never seem to pick the most likely right. Most of the official recording stations are located away/ outside from big city & towns. So many amateur and semi professional weather station/ devices have been recording temperatures much higher then metoffice on the same days - a lot of them been located in urban areas. I find it hard to beloved they are all wrong.
nsrobins
17 July 2013 09:28:43

I find it hard to beloved they are all wrong.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


No need to get all emotional about it

It's always been the way of 'official' temperatures. The data recorded by the Met Office for records, etc has to be manually read on standard mercury max/min and wet/dry thermometers (someone correct me if this is no longer the case). This obviously requires people to get out there at regular intervals, which is fine for Heathrow and Kew and Wisley, etc, but not for all locations.
We all like to think our own garden instruments are providing accurate readings but without any scientific or repeatable verification you can never be sure. And if they are not in a decent shaded spot, preferably in a screen preventing wind anomolies, then it's just for fun . . .?


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Darren S
17 July 2013 09:44:27


I find it hard to beloved they are all wrong.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


No need to get all emotional about it

It's always been the way of 'official' temperatures. The data recorded by the Met Office for records, etc has to be manually read on standard mercury max/min and wet/dry thermometers (someone correct me if this is no longer the case). This obviously requires people to get out there at regular intervals, which is fine for Heathrow and Kew and Wisley, etc, but not for all locations.
We all like to think our own garden instruments are providing accurate readings but without any scientific or repeatable verification you can never be sure. And if they are not in a decent shaded spot, preferably in a screen preventing wind anomolies, then it's just for fun . . .?


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Exactly. The easiest thing in the world is to record a temperature that is too high on a hot day. That's because as the sun shines on things like buildings, they absorb the heat and then radiate it out. Couple that with light being reflected off glass and shining on other objects, and obstructions like buildings and trees preventing proper air movement, there's lots of things that can affect the temperature.


Most people don't have huge gardens, and put their weather stations in places which could be affected by any of these issues. So whilst you might be accurately recording the temperature in your garden, next door's garden will be different, and other houses different again; in fact different parts of your garden will have different temperatures. Therefore, such readings have no value in accurate national comparison, any more than Jiries' shed thermometer does.


Officially sited thermometers should be away from such obstructions and heat-absorbing surfaces so that the temperature is representative of that locality. Heathrow is a moot point I guess, but rather than recording an incorrect temperature due to a building a few metres away, it is recording the temperature of the whole locality. Yes, there is lots of tarmac and aircraft engines, etc. around Heathrow, but the temperature there is probably representative of the whole airfield (an area of several square miles) so therefore it is valid - unless we pretend that a huge area of the country that is built on doesn't exist.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Jonesy
17 July 2013 09:45:32

I love warm weather but I gotta say I'll be pleased about the slight cool down if you can call it that for my area over the weekend, It'll be nice to sit in it and enjoy it rather than sweating buckets lol.


I'm going away on the 27th To Torquay so knowing my luck the possible breakdown around the 26th will occur !!


 


Medway Towns (Kent)
The Weather will do what it wants, when it wants, no matter what data is thrown at it !
nsrobins
17 July 2013 09:52:26


- unless we pretend that a huge area of the country that is built on doesn't exist.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


It's called Slough.

Good post Darren.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
picturesareme
17 July 2013 09:59:55

I find it hard to beloved they are all wrong.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


No need to get all emotional about it

It's always been the way of 'official' temperatures. The data recorded by the Met Office for records, etc has to be manually read on standard mercury max/min and wet/dry thermometers (someone correct me if this is no longer the case). This obviously requires people to get out there at regular intervals, which is fine for Heathrow and Kew and Wisley, etc, but not for all locations.
We all like to think our own garden instruments are providing accurate readings but without any scientific or repeatable verification you can never be sure. And if they are not in a decent shaded spot, preferably in a screen preventing wind anomolies, then it's just for fun . . .?

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



Lol I i read it twice and still didnt notice the typo 😃. Regarding shade and stuff are they not suppost to use stevenson screen? To allow wind flow through and block solar radiation?
Darren S
17 July 2013 10:03:22

Regarding shade and stuff are they not suppost to use stevenson screen? To allow wind flow through and block solar radiation?

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Yes; but the Stevenson Screen also has to be sited correctly, to ensure that radiation from other sources isn't hitting it, and that it isn't sheltered from wind flow. Inevitably sunshine and wind does have an effect on the temperatures recorded in the screen.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Rob K
17 July 2013 10:04:47

FYI the official UK maximum so far is not actually at Heathrow - one of the stations that doesn't appear on the daily lists just pipped it on Saturday:



@bbcweather: The Met Office now says that 31.5C at Hurcott Farm near Yeovilton recorded on Saturday is the UK's highest temp of the year so far.

Oddly the official max at Yeovilton itself was only 30.1C that day. Anyway I expect that will be smashed today. It feels like a scorcher out there today. Already 25.5C at 10am at Heathrow.


 


Also Scotland's max this year was 29.3C at Grangemouth Refinery on July 9th.


 


 


Edit: regarding siting the Stevenson screen. The gerneral rule is that the distance from a building has to be at least twice the building's height - not easy in a small back garden!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

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