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Quantum
  • Quantum
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21 February 2014 18:41:43

Usually I would just post this in the media forum, but you can have an entire thread devoted to how ridiculous this is. 


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/461082/Winter-will-be-drier-than-normal-Met-Office-claimed-but-the-Express-knew-truth


The title says it all, how anyone can be so arrogant and stupid to think that writing whatever extreme story you care to imagine can be more accurate than an organisation of trained proffesionals with shed loads of computing power and experience. I'm not entierly convinced this article is even genuine. It sounds like a parody of itself. 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
The Beast from the East
21 February 2014 19:00:25

The Express has become in all aspects of its "journalism" rather like the National Enquirer in America or the Daily Sport with stories about WW2 bombers found on the moon etc.


But it still tries to portray itself as a "serious" newspaper. However, its gradually falling circulation suggest even its readers are now getting fed up and switching to the Mail


 


 

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Essan
21 February 2014 19:09:38


The Express has become in all aspects of its "journalism" rather like the National Enquirer in America or the Daily Sport with stories about WW2 bombers found on the moon etc.


But it still tries to portray itself as a "serious" newspaper. However, its gradually falling circulation suggest even its readers are now getting fed up and switching to the Mail


 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



Mind, the Mail was no better today with the same misleading story plastered over their front page - one which has since mysteriously disappeared from the main page of their website ...... 


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
doctormog
21 February 2014 19:38:33
I love the comments (in the link) in reply to this piece of "journalism"! The hypocrisy (and indeed irony) seems to be somewhat lost of the article' author.
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UncleAlbert
21 February 2014 20:36:44
I am don't know what the Met Office's thoughts were for this winter, (maybe someone could enlighten me), but all the same I am sure they would not have made any sort of prediction without the usual caveats.

Anyway besides this it has to be said that the Daily Express should be apologising for not making it absolutely clear that the outrageous predictions that the newspaper has been printing with respect to this season were not sourced through the Met Office. I don't often read newspapers... but when I do read such items I tend to read them backwards. That way I can get to the nitty gritty quickly before binning it.
Essan
21 February 2014 20:38:50

I am don't know what the Met Office's thoughts were for this winter, (maybe someone could enlighten me), but all the same I am sure they would not have made any sort of prediction without the usual caveats.


Originally Posted by: UncleAlbert 



They didn't have any.   The story is based in the contingency planner's report in November suggesting only a 15% chance of it being in the wettest category as opposed a 25% probability it'd be in the driest.   But its not a forecast.

Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
jamesthemonkeh
21 February 2014 21:03:35

What a joke.  I did however manage to find myself to a story about a girl with a nice bum, which was more scientific and the headline predicted what I would see.

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UncleAlbert
21 February 2014 21:06:15


I am don't know what the Met Office's thoughts were for this winter, (maybe someone could enlighten me), but all the same I am sure they would not have made any sort of prediction without the usual caveats.


Originally Posted by: Essan 



They didn't have any.   The story is based in the contingency planner's report in November suggesting only a 15% chance of it being in the wettest category as opposed a 25% probability it'd be in the driest.   But its not a forecast.


Originally Posted by: UncleAlbert 


Yep, that sums it up nicely.

Chiltern Blizzard
21 February 2014 23:23:17

Usually I would just post this in the media forum, but you can have an entire thread devoted to how ridiculous this is.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/461082/Winter-will-be-drier-than-normal-Met-Office-claimed-but-the-Express-knew-truth 
The title says it all, how anyone can be so arrogant and stupid to think that writing whatever extreme story you care to imagine can be more accurate than an organisation of trained proffesionals with shed loads of computing power and experience. I'm not entierly convinced this article is even genuine. It sounds like a parody of itself.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 



And this from the paper that forecast the 2013/14 to be the coldest winter ever recorded back last November?!? And then they have the gall to write this - laughable.

Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
nsrobins
22 February 2014 11:09:43

I would read the article in detail as at first glance it looks a decent piece of journalism.


Alas however I have some significantly more important duties to perform:

1) Remove by hand if necessary a large lump of congealed cooking products and excrement from my sewer
2) Trim my warts
3) Watch the grass grow

(in no particular order of preference)

Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
SEMerc
22 February 2014 11:12:13

Am I the only person to see the irony in the thread title?

nouska
22 February 2014 11:23:14


Am I the only person to see the irony in the thread title?


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


...Q has his own special way with words....

chichesterweatherfan
22 February 2014 11:25:10
No you are not alone:)
Caz
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22 February 2014 15:09:42



Am I the only person to see the irony in the thread title?


Originally Posted by: nouska 


...Q has his own special way with words....


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 

 Me too, but at least the title spelling got my interest, which is more than the topic does!


As for the topic, should we blame the papers or the people who buy them?  If people didn't waste money buying such rubbish, there wouldn't be so much 'laughable' bad weather journalism!

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Quantum
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23 February 2014 01:16:36



Am I the only person to see the irony in the thread title?


Originally Posted by: nouska 


...Q has his own special way with words....


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


While I can always use a spellchecker next time, the daily express will always produce inacurate s***

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
RobR
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23 February 2014 14:43:31

Well I called him a 'troll' in response to that article on Twitter. He responded with:


 


 3h

I suggest your first move would be to un-follow me then?? As you appear unable to do this I shall help out by blocking you.


 


Round of appaulse. He really winds me up with these articles.

Winter 23/24 in Nantwich
Days Snow Falling: 4
Days Snow Lying: 1
Deepest Snowfall: 3rd December 23 (2cm)



Winter 22/23 in Nantwich

Days Snow Falling: 4
Days Snow Lying: 2
Deepest Snowfall: 10th March (3cm)
Latest Snowfall: 10th March

Winter 21/22 in Nantwich

Days Snow Falling: 3
Days Snow Lying: 1
Deepest Snowfall: 28th November (3cm)
Latest Snowfall: 31st March

Winter 20/21 in Solihull

Days Snow Falling: 21
Days Snow Lying: 8
Deepest Snowfall: 24th January (9cm)
Latest Snowfall: 12th April

Winter 19/20 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 5
Days Snow Lying: 2
Deepest Snowfall: 10th Feb (5cm)

Winter 18/19 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 6
Days Snow Lying: 6
Deepest Snowfall: 29th Jan (3cm)

Winter 17/18 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 27
Days Snow Lying: 24
Deepest Snowfall: 18th March 2018 (10cm)
Essan
23 February 2014 14:53:55


Well I called him a 'troll' in response to that article on Twitter. He responded with:


 


 3h

I suggest your first move would be to un-follow me then?? As you appear unable to do this I shall help out by blocking you.


 


Round of appaulse. He really winds me up with these articles.


Originally Posted by: RobR 




LOL!

Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
Weather & Earth Science News 

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job - DNA
RobR
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23 February 2014 15:13:42

I've been tweeting sarcastic things with regards to the articles most weeks and clearly he is now fed up. I've not been abusive or anything...just trying to state a point along with others including weather professionals. 


The final straw was this hilarous article which is purely as I put it 'trolling' the weather enthuasists.

Winter 23/24 in Nantwich
Days Snow Falling: 4
Days Snow Lying: 1
Deepest Snowfall: 3rd December 23 (2cm)



Winter 22/23 in Nantwich

Days Snow Falling: 4
Days Snow Lying: 2
Deepest Snowfall: 10th March (3cm)
Latest Snowfall: 10th March

Winter 21/22 in Nantwich

Days Snow Falling: 3
Days Snow Lying: 1
Deepest Snowfall: 28th November (3cm)
Latest Snowfall: 31st March

Winter 20/21 in Solihull

Days Snow Falling: 21
Days Snow Lying: 8
Deepest Snowfall: 24th January (9cm)
Latest Snowfall: 12th April

Winter 19/20 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 5
Days Snow Lying: 2
Deepest Snowfall: 10th Feb (5cm)

Winter 18/19 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 6
Days Snow Lying: 6
Deepest Snowfall: 29th Jan (3cm)

Winter 17/18 in Stoke

Days Snow Falling: 27
Days Snow Lying: 24
Deepest Snowfall: 18th March 2018 (10cm)
Quantum
  • Quantum
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23 February 2014 17:11:11


Well I called him a 'troll' in response to that article on Twitter. He responded with:


 


 3h

I suggest your first move would be to un-follow me then?? As you appear unable to do this I shall help out by blocking you.


 


Round of appaulse. He really winds me up with these articles.


Originally Posted by: RobR 


You shouldn't have done that RobR, now you will have to face the wrath of the 'express legal team' 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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