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Quantum
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26 February 2016 20:15:45

Probably the warmest winter on record for England and Wales and the prospects are for a colder march at least (perhaps the 3rd time in 100 years with a progression Dec warmer than Jan warmer than Feb warmer than March). So I want to know, has spring ever had a colder CET than winter? Is it even possible? 

2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Bertwhistle
26 February 2016 20:22:27

I've got 23 springs potentially colder than this winter:


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ssn_HadCET_mean_sort.txt


Now, the question is, does any of these line up with the warmest winters in the way you want?

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Andy Woodcock
26 February 2016 22:23:31


Probably the warmest winter on record for England and Wales and the prospects are for a colder march at least (perhaps the 3rd time in 100 years with a progression Dec warmer than Jan warmer than Feb warmer than March). So I want to know, has spring ever had a colder CET than winter? Is it even possible? 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


i doubt it.


One on the mildest winters on record was 1974/75 and one of the coldest springs was 1975 but even then winter was stil colder than spring.


With May having an average temperature some 7c higher than December you would need a very exceptional set of circumstances to get such an outcome.


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Chunky Pea
26 February 2016 23:10:47
Not the CET, but based on Northern Ireland data, there has been no incidences where the Spring season has been warmer than Winter - at least since 1910. However, spring 1989 worked out only marginally warmer than its preceding winter with just a 1.1c difference in mean temp values between the two seasons.
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KevBrads1
27 February 2016 07:16:34


 


i doubt it.


One on the mildest winters on record was 1974/75 and one of the coldest springs was 1975 but even then winter was stil colder than spring.


With May having an average temperature some 7c higher than December you would need a very exceptional set of circumstances to get such an outcome.


Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


However Andy the mean temp for December 2015 was so high that May 2016 mean temperature could be lower than this. Infact December 2015 could possibly be the warmest  month until next June.


The spring of 1869 was about 1.0C warmer than winter 1868-69

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ARTzeman
27 February 2016 09:25:52

Hoping for the rise at the end of March also the following TWO months .....Be a disaster  if it did not. 





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