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four
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11 April 2019 09:03:41

This morning at 7:30 and -4.7C

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four
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11 April 2019 09:23:05

The frost was less severe out of the valley, but that patchy high cloud kept the sun at bay, and it was 9am before it got above freezing.
Not much greenery yet here.

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NMA
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11 April 2019 10:57:06

Very much a Blackthorn Winter in the South this year too. Not as cold though as with you Four.


Lovely in the sun right now but the shade is still another matter.


Someone made a comment on how fast can an easterly become warm or something like that.


My answer would be no more than a day in the right synoptics. My dad a meteorologist mentioned once that there was an April easterly with freezing conditions and very low single figures one day and then up to 21C the next when a warm pocket of air came up from the SE. But this year looks like a No. For the time being. 


The pollution smog has gone which is a blessing.


 

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DEW
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11 April 2019 14:57:24

Sorry for your daffs but they usually pick up, Both daffs and primroses finished here - what a difference!

War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Gandalf The White
12 April 2019 17:53:34


Sorry for your daffs but they usually pick up, Both daffs and primroses finished here - what a difference!


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Some of the daffs are just past their best now.  We now have tulips in flower, earlier than usual and much earlier (for obvious reasons) than last year.


It's that time of year when in the sunshine and sheltered from the wind it feels quite pleasant - then when the sun goes and wind gets going it feels like winter again.

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Roger Parsons
14 April 2019 17:34:17

Enjoy your garden daffs, but the real gems are our native daffodils, the subjects of Wordsworth's famous poem.
https://www.plantlife.org.uk/uk/discover-wild-plants-nature/plant-fungi-species/daffodil-wild


Garden species fly-planted in the wild deserve a dose of Round-up. They are an abomination on our road verges. 
Roger

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Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
four
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14 April 2019 18:04:17
The ones in the picture are wild, growing in a field margin by the Esk
Most of the North York Moors valleys have substantial numbers, it's thought the monasteries may have helped them spread around, but they are thoroughly naturalised.
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Roger Parsons
14 April 2019 18:48:11

The ones in the picture are wild, growing in a field margin by the Esk
Most of the North York Moors valleys have substantial numbers, it's thought the monasteries may have helped them spread around, but they are thoroughly naturalised.

Originally Posted by: four 


Aelred of Rievaulx moved to Lincolnshire [Revesby] before moving back north, Four. Do you think he might have been a fan of the daffodil?


We have a bit of field-scale daffodil production here, with related escapes on road verges etc, but there is deliberate planting of the garden varieties. Why is it we have such a low regard for our native species, do you think?


See:


https://www.growwilduk.com/wildflowers/why-wildflowers-matter


Roger

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West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
four
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14 April 2019 19:05:27
The garden ones have been selectively bred for earlier flowering and larger blooms, which are seen as desirable traits I guess.
I think the wild ones are longer lasting and certainly less inclined to flop over. Unless frozen.

The sap has qualities which the monks valued enough to grow them as a medicinal plant.
https://thedaffodilsociety.com/wordpress/2013/01/daffodils-medical-uses/ 
They are potentially toxic, sheep and cattle do not generally eat them other than a quick nibble which is how they survive e.g. in our pastures.
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Roger Parsons
14 April 2019 19:20:51
https://thedaffodilsociety.com/wordpress/2013/01/daffodils-medical-uses/ 
They are potentially toxic, sheep and cattle do not generally eat them other than a quick nibble which is how they survive e.g. in our pastures.


I think that could well be right, Four. See:


https://botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/d/daffod01.html


Some years ago I was interested to find a good patch of milk thistle on a monastery site near Woodhall Spa [Kirkstead]. This was used for treating liver complaints and its proximity to the abbey foundations make me think is was possibly an escape from a herb garden. I think Bert might enjoy the following link.


https://www.ediblewildfood.com/milk-thistle.aspx


Roger


 

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West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
DEW
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15 April 2019 06:26:34

We know someone who ate a daffodil bulb as a dare. It caused a serious swelling of the throat - "it nearly closed up" - and she was rushed to A&E where, happily, a large dose of antihistamine solved the problem.

War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Roger Parsons
15 April 2019 07:03:38


We know someone who ate a daffodil bulb as a dare. It caused a serious swelling of the throat - "it nearly closed up" - and she was rushed to A&E where, happily, a large dose of antihistamine solved the problem.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Not a good idea, DEW.


Here's a question - have you ever [think about it] seen a honeybee working a daffodil?


See if you can spot one this spring - then compare with say, cherry blossom....


Roger

RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Bertwhistle
16 April 2019 13:59:02


 


I think that could well be right, Four. See:


https://botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/d/daffod01.html


Some years ago I was interested to find a good patch of milk thistle on a monastery site near Woodhall Spa [Kirkstead]. This was used for treating liver complaints and its proximity to the abbey foundations make me think is was possibly an escape from a herb garden. I think Bert might enjoy the following link.


https://www.ediblewildfood.com/milk-thistle.aspx


Roger


 


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Last line on the opening page of your link belies the monastery/milkthistle link possibly: also called Holy Thistle.


Incidentally, it's still considered a liver tonic along with walnuts, grapefruit, rocket, watercress and I hear coffee. All bitter tasting.


Made roasted acorn coffee once. Nearly worked.


Edit: sorry; I'll disengage as I don't want to derail or divert the thread. Nice the photo upped some discussion though.

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agw2
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20 April 2019 13:09:29

You are a knowledgeable lot.  I admit I can tell the difference between a daffodil and a tulip,  but I wouldn't know a wild daffodil from a domesticated one. Not unless the wild one was wild enough to take a bite out of me.

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