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cultman1
03 May 2023 14:01:32

Sadly you are probably right 

Originally Posted by: cultman1 

Ally Pally Snowman
03 May 2023 14:41:03

It's been an absolutely horrendous spring here. So wet, that our cricket ground will not be fit for play for at least 2 to 3 weeks, and that's if the weather starts to dry out.


But looking at the models, it's looking like May is going the same way as March and April, wet and cool.


An absolute shocker, and I think the summer pattern is set in stone now and I am fully anticipating a 2007/2012 type wash-out.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



The 3rd May is actually quite late for your annual write off summer post. 😆
 
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moomin75
03 May 2023 16:16:16

The 3rd May is actually quite late for your annual write off summer post. 😆
 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

I am definitely writing off much of the summer. You can all laugh out loud, but it just feels very 2012-ish to me!
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Col
  • Col
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03 May 2023 17:10:32

I am definitely writing off much of the summer. You can all laugh out loud, but it just feels very 2012-ish to me!

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



We shall see. But at least in the past you have been prepared to admit when you were wrong.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
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doctormog
03 May 2023 17:35:18

I am definitely writing off much of the summer. You can all laugh out loud, but it just feels very 2012-ish to me!

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



Okay.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Bolty
03 May 2023 18:35:42

It's been an absolutely horrendous spring here. So wet, that our cricket ground will not be fit for play for at least 2 to 3 weeks, and that's if the weather starts to dry out.


But looking at the models, it's looking like May is going the same way as March and April, wet and cool.


An absolute shocker, and I think the summer pattern is set in stone now and I am fully anticipating a 2007/2012 type wash-out.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



With respect, you said this last year and we ended up with two 18°C CET months (a very rare and exculsive club), the first ever 40°C heat wave in July, and overall arguably the best August since 1995.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
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tierradelfuego
03 May 2023 19:38:51

With respect, you said this last year and we ended up with two 18°C CET months (a very rare and exculsive club), the first ever 40°C heat wave in July, and overall arguably the best August since 1995.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



I'm not even sure how 2012 even remotely relates to this year from an analogue perspective. Down here (and no more than 30 miles to *hitney) this year has been way colder and way wetter than 2012 so far, from the 1st Feb. Forget 2012 Moomin, you can just kiss goodbye to the cricket season now and prepare the ark.
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picturesareme
03 May 2023 19:56:29

With respect, you said this last year and we ended up with two 18°C CET months (a very rare and exculsive club), the first ever 40°C heat wave in July, and overall arguably the best August since 1995.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



He says the same crap every year - like a broken record. Come the autumn he will start putting out his usual winter is over crud.
moomin75
04 May 2023 10:30:53

He says the same crap every year - like a broken record. Come the autumn he will start putting out his usual winter is over crud.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



I do air on the side of negativity, but I am always happy to accept criticism when it's deserved...which it often (but not always) is.

I don't always paint a negative picture, and if I genuinely believe we are in a good place, I will say so....

I just don't like the pattern that has emerged, and we are paying a very heavy price for the late winter SSW.

I think we can safely write off much of May as particularly pleasant.

Of course, we won't know what is to come, but the pattern is stuck in a bit of a rut at the moment.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Jiries
04 May 2023 20:01:01

I do air on the side of negativity, but I am always happy to accept criticism when it's deserved...which it often (but not always) is.

I don't always paint a negative picture, and if I genuinely believe we are in a good place, I will say so....

I just don't like the pattern that has emerged, and we are paying a very heavy price for the late winter SSW.

I think we can safely write off much of May as particularly pleasant.

Of course, we won't know what is to come, but the pattern is stuck in a bit of a rut at the moment.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



Last 2 days had been mostly sunny and temperatures of 17-18C should had been in March warm spell so 2 months late because of stupid SSW.  First time indoor temps had reached 20C yesterday and today briefly since Feb was the last time hit 19.5C   

We do really need a big hope that no SSW next year or banned i wish! 
Chunky Pea
05 May 2023 22:25:32

Last 2 days had been mostly sunny and temperatures of 17-18C should had been in March warm spell so 2 months late because of stupid SSW.  First time indoor temps had reached 20C yesterday and today briefly since Feb was the last time hit 19.5C   

We do really need a big hope that no SSW next year or banned i wish! 

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


To be honest, I think SSW events are overhyped and overplayed so I'm not really sure how much, if any, after effect the winter SSW would be having in the current pattern. This spring so far has been very average and boring (more so than usual) in my opinion. 
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moomin75
06 May 2023 18:46:10

To be honest, I think SSW events are overhyped and overplayed so I'm not really sure how much, if any, after effect the winter SSW would be having in the current pattern. This spring so far has been very average and boring (more so than usual) in my opinion. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


It's been far from average CP, at least not from a precipitation point.

Average temperatures yes, but it's been extremely wet in many areas.

That said, I agree with you about the SSW.
My personal view is, as is always the case in this country, Mother Nature is making up for the lack of rain during last year by topping things up.

Hopefully the rain will relent at some point, because it's already decimated the first couple of weeks of the cricket season.

 
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
tierradelfuego
06 May 2023 19:27:18


My personal view is, as is always the case in this country, Mother Nature is making up for the lack of rain during last year by topping things up.
 

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



With all due respect, I can't get to grips why you always go on about this Mother Nature stuff, whatever that may be, and trying not to be derogatory to you personally, it's just guff.

At the end of the day we live on island predominated by mild, moist SW winds. In our lifetime, at least, we always will... who knows beyond that, we don't. That's the meteorological science behind it. We will never see something that other countries see like a 3 or 5 or even like in Australia as an example, a 10 year drought, it just won't happen. We also won't see Mediterranean summers or continental winters as others think should be normal because Greece is always hotter than here.

Whatever it appears to be, it really isn't Mother Nature balancing shit, it's just our climate, would you agree?
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West Berkshire Downs AONB
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moomin75
06 May 2023 19:48:47
Yes, kind of what I was alluding to.

We do not have droughts, we have occasional dry spells in a largely wet climate....its as simple as that.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
doctormog
06 May 2023 19:48:55
If only we could get some SWly winds I’d be happy!
tierradelfuego
06 May 2023 19:59:40

If only we could get some SWly winds I’d be happy!

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏
Bucklebury
West Berkshire Downs AONB
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doctormog
06 May 2023 20:08:56

I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏

Originally Posted by: tierradelfuego 



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moomin75
06 May 2023 20:58:34

I'll have a chat with Mother Nature tomorrow, when she gets up, will see what she can do 😏

Originally Posted by: tierradelfuego 


Cool. While you're doing so, can you ask her for a bit of drier weather so I can finally get on with trying to prepare a cricket pitch.

It's been completely impossible to do so this "spring".
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
DEW
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07 May 2023 07:55:05

Cool. While you're doing so, can you ask her for a bit of drier weather so I can finally get on with trying to prepare a cricket pitch.

It's been completely impossible to do so this "spring".

Originally Posted by: moomin75 



http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4  is X-rated for you😟- a local spot for the heaviest rain in Britain and indeed for most of Europe carefully sited over Oxfordshire in week 2.
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doctormog
07 May 2023 07:58:34
My moan? It has essentially been like this for a week here and around 7 to 8°C for most of the time.

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moomin75
07 May 2023 08:23:15

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4  is X-rated for you😟- a local spot for the heaviest rain in Britain and indeed for most of Europe carefully sited over Oxfordshire in week 2.

Originally Posted by: DEW 

 
Indeed.
I am writing off the rest of May to be honest.
Maybe it'll improve for June, but I doubt it.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Jiries
07 May 2023 09:47:36
Notice today max will be first 20C and sounded it like desperation to get warmer but SSW are refusing to go away with unwelcome rain and cold that effected fully this Spring.  Getting a 20C easy no problem get it before in March or April but now very hard to get it.
doctormog
07 May 2023 09:49:22
Possibly another single figure max here today 
richardabdn
07 May 2023 10:04:09
Not just the worst Spring I've ever endured but the worst of any season. It just gets more and more ludicrously vile with each ridiculously unpleasant and depressing week of abject horror that passes devoid of anything remotely normal or seasonable for the time of year 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Should be the sunniest time of year and the past 10 days have produced a total of 11.8 hours of sun and on it goes with another day of totally useless and preposterous 8C murk. The only possible explanation for this seems to be the result of a disastrous Frankenstein cloud seeding experiment gone wrong. Certainly doesn't feel that this unremitting garbage, which is so alien and abnormal for any any time of year never mind early May, could have arose naturally 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Not only is it the lowest total I've ever recorded for a 10-day spell in April or May but only once has the 10-day total ending in 6th January been lower which was 2015/16 with 5.2 hours. Next lowest is 2017/18 with 12.6 hours. Utterly surreal given how dull the festive periods have been in recent years 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Today will also be the 16th consecutive day of below average temperatures, the highest in that time being an absolutely dire 12.2C. The 30th March is the only day to reach 15C this year with the next warmest after that being 14.4C back on 24th January showing once again what an utterly catastrophic and disastrous car crash of a spring this has been when even basic levels of warmth, that were achieved in the depths of winter, cannot be attained 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

However, the disgusting lack of warmth pales into insignificance compared to the absolutely stinking awful weekends which are just off the scale in terms of sheer unadulterated horror. Completely unusable write-offs week after week like nothing on earth I've ever experienced. A cold, bleak, sunless miserable run without precedent at any time of year. A draining, tiresome ultra depressing danger to health 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Only vaguely decent weekend all year was way back on 11th/12th February. Horrific all throughout spring and continuing to get worse in defiance of any rational expectation. Last weekend was the first completely sunless weekend at any time of year since 12th/13th December 2020 and we could be looking at yet another one this weekend which is just mind-bogglingly awful given that there hasn't been back-to-back sunless weekends since February 2011. Not even early January 2016 - the worst period of weather in living memory - could manage that so to achieve that now would really say something about this unprecedented wrist-slittlingly awful excuse for a spring 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Four completely sunless weekend days in April - equalling the most I've recorded in any month of the year - has resulted in daily weekend sunshine averaging a thoroughly disgusting 2.51 hours -  previous lowest in my 16 years of records was 4.21 hours in 2014. To beat that revolting spring by such a huge margin is beyond horrific. Just can't do anything outdoors at all. Might as well be living in Ny Alesund. I'm sure it's sunnier there. Even the Faeroes average 5 hours at this time of year, a total achieved only once in the past 10 days here of weather unfit for any habitable land 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

2023 is proving once again there is no longer a floor as to how low things can sink in the weather wasteland that is the 21st Century. To describe this as a year from hell doesn't even begin to do justice as to how insufferably poor it has been. An endurance test that only the toughest can survive. Feels like it's going to beat even notoriously bad years like 1985 and 1993 for unremittingly dire weather throughout the summer half. Just can't get anything remotely acceptable even for one day 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


 
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Bolty
07 May 2023 16:36:25
Not been a bad first week of May here, to be fair. Overall, probably very typical for the time of year with average temperatures. There's been some rain and showers but also a fair amount of sunshine too. Today has been lovely: 18.9°C and long spells of sunshine.

I'm just hoping tomorrow's rain doesn't come off or is weaker than expected though.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 

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