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kmoorman
17 January 2019 22:53:21


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Blizzards for many here:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gfs&var=1&run=18&time=300&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref


Edit: Scandy- Greenland high linkage occurs circa + 300 hrs


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


 


That is a wonderful run... 


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fairweather
17 January 2019 22:54:45

Well that is a classic pub run. I'm fully expecting it to verify as my daughter is off for a well deserved break in Malta then, flying from Stansted. eeek!


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Ally Pally Snowman
17 January 2019 22:55:27


 


 


That is a wonderful run... 


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


 


One of these days one of these runs is actually going to happen . 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Hippydave
17 January 2019 22:56:51

It's a nutty old pub run alright.


Just as the Scandi HP looks to be giving up we get some nicely time trough disruption over the UK with frontal snow for some (probably a lot for the SW) whilst the cold air hangs on.


Under lighter winds although the coldest upper air has departed byT324 (other than a small splodge of -10s) I dare say it'd be absolutely freezing at the surface with some low minima over the snow fields.


In some ways whilst nice to look at these kind of runs in the Op are a bit annoying.Unless we get really lucky it's like it's showing us what we could have won


 


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Work: Tonbridge
Steve Murr
17 January 2019 22:56:56

Well whats the confidence now 65%?

Whats the chances eh? Apart from the epic ECM run- but having the 2 best GFS runs ever in the space of 12 hours-

We now have ECM + MEAN + Latest GFS going for the beast...?

If they allign at 120 then the rest will follow pretty much all the way to 192...

kmoorman
17 January 2019 22:57:17


 


 


One of these days one of these runs is actually going to happen . 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


We can but dream 


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kmoorman
17 January 2019 22:59:27


It's a nutty old pub run alright.


Just as the Scandi HP looks to be giving up we get some nicely time trough disruption over the UK with frontal snow for some (probably a lot for the SW) whilst the cold air hangs on.


Under lighter winds although the coldest upper air has departed byT324 (other than a small splodge of -10s) I dare say it'd be absolutely freezing at the surface with some low minima over the snow fields.


In some ways whilst nice to look at these kind of runs in the Op are a bit annoying.Unless we get really lucky it's like it's showing us what we could have won


 


Originally Posted by: Hippydave 


 


That is so true. We get to see all off the alternate realities 


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Rob K
17 January 2019 23:01:32
All eyes on the parallel then, which has annoyingly stalled at 96 hours just as the interesting part is coming up.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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kmoorman
17 January 2019 23:06:24

All eyes on the parallel then, which has annoyingly stalled at 96 hours just as the interesting part is coming up.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


You watch that, I'm covering the ensemble. Let's compare notes later.


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Joe Bloggs
17 January 2019 23:08:04


 


 


One of these days one of these runs is actually going to happen . 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


March 2018 was more severe than this GFS run. 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Steve Murr
17 January 2019 23:14:03
*HUGE* swing to the ECM in the 18z Mean-
144 is pretty much identical to the operational!! ❄️❄️❄️❄️
kmoorman
17 January 2019 23:16:38

All eyes on the parallel then, which has annoyingly stalled at 96 hours just as the interesting part is coming up.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Early indications are that the Control Run is going very well....πŸ˜‰


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ballamar
17 January 2019 23:17:15


 


March 2018 was more severe than this GFS run. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


850’s can be higher at this time of year for lower maximum temperatures I would bet this spell would be colder

Karl Guille
17 January 2019 23:28:20

A fairly decent cluster going with the Op on the GEFS 18z IMBY!


Diagramme GEFS


St. Sampson
Guernsey
kmoorman
17 January 2019 23:29:36
I counted only 7 runs in the ensemble that didn't develop an easterly but 180z and I'm sure some of the others do soon after. Maybe 3 that flatten the pattern. Big improvement
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nsrobins
17 January 2019 23:48:59
The GFS(P) however still refuses to separate the energy that allows a discrete low Tues with an Easterly behind and as its done last three runs develops a following low and prevents the Scandy High.
This sort of division prevents me from committing.
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
ballamar
18 January 2019 00:05:49

The GFS(P) however still refuses to separate the energy that allows a discrete low Tues with an Easterly behind and as its done last three runs develops a following low and prevents the Scandy High.
This sort of division prevents me from committing.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


go on commit it’s happening- there is no chance of it going wrong now πŸ˜‚

ballamar
18 January 2019 00:11:03
The snow rows the look of the ENS raises the confidence- memorable period of weather incoming in my mind.
Gandalf The White
18 January 2019 00:19:47

OK, it's deepest FI but that deep low runs into the Channel and produces a heck of a blizzard for the south.



Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


fairweather
18 January 2019 01:03:35


 


 


go on commit it’s happening- there is no chance of it going wrong now πŸ˜‚


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Well only 48 hrs before like it did once before in bygone days


S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
18 January 2019 01:05:16

Outliers of course, as expected but more than enough in the ensembles and elsewhere to be optimistic.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Retron
18 January 2019 04:18:46

Last night's ECM strat forecast now has the SSW ending tomorrow, with a brief reprise for two days on the 20th and 21st. It then increases the zonal wind more quickly than on previous runs - still not earthshattering amounts (0, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6) but way more than previous efforts (which were around 0 to 1 throughout).

In theory this should give a bit more of a push downwards of the negative zonal winds - whether that happens remains to be seen!


Leysdown, north Kent
Retron
18 January 2019 04:47:06
A cold and sometimes snowy picture is on offer this morning from the GFS and GEM. From what we can see of the MetO output, it looks like there would be snow around as well, albeit marginal.

Assuming ECM follows suit later, the focus will doubtless switch to Tuesday's potential snowfall...
Leysdown, north Kent
Whether Idle
18 January 2019 05:58:34

 


In my experience it is folly to dismiss a Met O 144 that does not "come on board" with the coldest and most favoured scenario.  I take the Met O 144 very seriously when it is at odds with other models.  We all await the ECM with interest but  more runs are needed, and I would suggest that the 12zs will not settle this either. For me, this will be sorted out either way at the weekend.  The GEM coming on board is a small bonus, but a shaky ECM will set the fox free in the chicken coup.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
nsrobins
18 January 2019 05:59:01
ICON moves towards the others and as far as UKM goes it looks similar.
Cold/very cold Easterly developing from midweek with snow around looks very likely with the much colder conditions lasting a while.
Detail of ppn yet to be determined.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO

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