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Rob K
31 January 2019 15:32:28


Whats everyone thoughts on the band in the channel not quite matching the models.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


It seems to be strung out more to the east, so might cover a wider area as it moves north? Certainly looks like it might hit eastern areas a bit ahead of schedule.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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warrenb
31 January 2019 15:34:52
Well it has clouded over completely here and the temp has dropped to 1.3c witha DP of -2 so looking good
Lionel Hutz
31 January 2019 15:35:45


 


As grim as it gets here at the mo. Driving heavy sleet in an increasingly fearsome wind. Colder bank of air to near north obviously making inroads. If this turns to complete snow in the next while it'll be a sight to behold. 


Either way, my north facing windows are getting a much needed wash down at last. 


 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


An ill wind blowing some good, then! 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Essan
31 January 2019 15:36:12


Crikey, just refreshed the forecast for Fleet and it has 10 consecutive hours of "double flakers" from 9pm to 6am. Plus four single flakes for a total of 24. BANK!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 



Last time I saw that for here was 1947!

I have 3 hours of single snowflakes and thought I was in heaven!


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31 January 2019 15:39:56


Whats everyone thoughts on the band in the channel not quite matching the models.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Not just that but the radar shows precipitation over us as I type but its dry on the ground. 


The local schools have closed early and will be tomorrow too.


Time to change of course but they the schools seem quite confident of some significant snow later today to take this approach and begin the weekend early.


Bit like the summer watching high level stuff approaching from France, well not quite the same but on the ground nothing or a few large drops of rain. The potential is there...


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Rob K
31 January 2019 15:40:28




Last time I saw that for here was 1947!


Originally Posted by: Essan 


That must have been the beta version of the Met Office site back then?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Snowedin3
31 January 2019 15:47:53
I would say the precipitation models are almost useless at this range, radar will tell the story.

I believe the Meto app takes its data from EURO4 I may be wrong but I would assume that the MO can see the 12z output from that hense which is reflective in the app?

Snow reported in NewQuay which is great sign for everyone else.
Dean Barnes
Finstock, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire
160m ASL 525 Ft
Heavy Weather 2013
31 January 2019 15:49:43

I now have


22:00: Sleet


23:00: Heavy Snow


00:00: Light Snow


01:00: Sleet


02:00: Sleet


03:00: Sleet


04:00: Heavy Snow


05:00: Heavy Snow


06:00: Light Snow


07:00: Light Snow


Not happy with the sleet. But that's an upgrade of +3 double snow symbols.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
RobN
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31 January 2019 15:50:40


 


Crikey, just refreshed the forecast for Fleet and it has 10 consecutive hours of "double flakers" from 9pm to 6am. Plus four single flakes for a total of 24. BANK!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That would be impressive to behold if it comes off Enjoy


Meanwhile up here I've just got the odd "single flaker" overnight and a measly one hour of "double flakers" at 6am 


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Chunky Pea
31 January 2019 15:50:40


 


An ill wind blowing some good, then! 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


Met Eireann's hi res 'Harmonie' model places your best bets around midnight or shortly after. Very messy system though so I think keeping an eye on the window will be as good as any model output at the moment. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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BaryBazz
31 January 2019 15:57:25


I now have


22:00: Sleet


23:00: Heavy Snow


00:00: Light Snow


01:00: Sleet


02:00: Sleet


03:00: Sleet


04:00: Heavy Snow


05:00: Heavy Snow


06:00: Light Snow


07:00: Light Snow


Not happy with the sleet. But that's an upgrade of +3 double snow symbols.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Just did mine and I now have 3 heavy snow symbols for NW London at 11pm, 2am and 3am with almost11 hours of continuous snow. Might be time get the Monte Cristo ready !!!


Can someone explain what the fax chart means for the uninitiated please.

fairweather
31 January 2019 15:57:52


Whats everyone thoughts on the band in the channel not quite matching the models.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yes, been looking at that. A rather broad band of fairly heavy precipitation moving N.E with the S.E right in the firing line. I imagine it is expected to slow, weaken and/or stall if the forecast is right because it looks like producing more than a couple of cmi f it makes it's way north of London/Essex.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Lionel Hutz
31 January 2019 15:59:19


 


Met Eireann's hi res 'Harmonie' model places your best bets around midnight or shortly after. Very messy system though so I think keeping an eye on the window will be as good as any model output at the moment. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 



Is there a link for that? Is it on the Met Eireann website?


My fear is that the system will tend to break up as it heads South and many areas may miss out. 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Quantum
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31 January 2019 15:59:40

Looking forward to the WRF12Z. The convective snow in the north has alot of potential, the temperatures are so low any snow will settle instantly.


 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Crepuscular Ray
31 January 2019 16:02:11
Dont forget....snow reports are best in the snow reports thread 👍
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Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
picturesareme
31 January 2019 16:02:16


Looking forward to the WRF12Z. The convective snow in the north has alot of potential, the temperatures are so low any snow will settle instantly.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Still very frosty here on Tyneside... can see distant clouds out over the north sea but nothing really showing on the radar yet


 

Quantum
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31 January 2019 16:04:00


 


Still very frosty here on Tyneside... can see distant clouds out over the north sea but nothing really showing on the radar yet


 


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Conditions are currently not right for it. Winds are from the SE, and directional shear is much too high. 6pm onwards things should start to appear on the radar.


At first I expect it to be rather continuous light snow but from midnight onwards I'd expect some heavier stuff to develop.


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Rob K
31 January 2019 16:07:48

12Z AROME has beefed up the snowfall for central southern parts.



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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picturesareme
31 January 2019 16:08:46


 


Conditions are currently not right for it. Winds are from the SE, and directional shear is much too high. 6pm onwards things should start to appear on the radar.


At first I expect it to be rather continuous light snow but from midnight onwards I'd expect some heavier stuff to develop.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I hope so, it would be nice to enjoy a snow day before I head back south.

Chunky Pea
31 January 2019 16:09:39


 



Is there a link for that? Is it on the Met Eireann website?


My fear is that the system will tend to break up as it heads South and many areas may miss out. 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


Just click where you are on the map Lionel: 


https://www.met.ie/


It'll give you hour by hour synopsis as to what this model is showing (below the map) for your location. Great thing about this model is that it updates very quickly. And I think it has a very high resolution of 2km Sq, so not bad! 


 


 


 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Quantum
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31 January 2019 16:10:13


 


I hope so, it would be nice to enjoy a snow day before I head back south.


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


I'm very optimistic given even the AROME is showing convection. AROME doesn't do that unless its substantial!


 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Lionel Hutz
31 January 2019 16:12:03


12Z AROME has beefed up the snowfall for central southern parts.



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Unfortunately, from the cut of the map, all of the lying snow over here will be on higher ground, with no low level snowfall. 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



Heavy Weather 2013
31 January 2019 16:15:34

Radar now looking very different to how ICON was positioning it at 16:00hr. Further northeast that shown with a band in the chanel not modelled effectively at all.


Interesting


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
31 January 2019 16:24:29

Down to 1 double snow symbol again lol


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Stormchaser
31 January 2019 16:36:48

The main band isn't far away from me now...a solid swathe of moderate-heavy returns but what will it fall as...?


I've got an air temp of 3*C but a dew point of -2*C. I can see places across Cornwall and Devon that are within the frontal zone yet still have DPs of 0*C or less so that's encouraging.


HIRLAM's usually very good with this sort of events, and it has snow almost right down to the coastline, so it'll be very disappointing to see much other than flakes from the sky this eve. Fingers crossed! I've been weirdly hesitant to truly believe in this one, not sure why!


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