[Ponders to self] It might have a chance of surviving in here. Perhaps. [/ponders to self]

It's frustrating that certain posters are able to constantly plough through their agenda in the MO thread, yet when they're challenged on this, the Mods/Brian delete the posts calling out the agenda-driven posts.

Many of the people getting snow from this feature are the same ones who did well out of last winter, too.

Brian, for example, and the Bristolian Matthew H are like snow magnets.

Yes. Today reminds me of the weeks of frustrating weather we had here a year ago. The radar has looked the same for hours. Nothing is getting any closer as anything coming from the east just fizzles out completely as it passes Manchester as if there someone standing there with a giant blow torch destroying anything that comes close.

I think I'm at that 'ready for spring' stage now.

There's been a long chain of snow showers heading right for us, getting closer and closer. Over the North Yorks Moors? No problem. Over the Yorkshire Dales? Pah, they just intensified and kicked on. Got to around Rochdale/Oldham and out they have fizzled.

Cruel!!

We've had the type of winter weather I despise today.

Not cold enough for snow; but cold enough to annoy with drizzly precipitation why alot of areas get snow  

A complete dead loss here today, a slight slushy dusting had managed to accumulate overnight but the thaw today quickly saw that off, plus the remnants of Tuesday's meagre fall which had just managed to cling on by the skin of its teeth in the shadier spots in the garden. Pathetic!

Lots of people moaning on here despite seeing snow on the ground - I'd call that a massive success compared to the incessant rain we've had in my neck of the woods all day... it's been a truly miserable, mucky and generally forgettable day.

(Still no snow on the ground for me this winter, which does nothing to disavow me of my dislike of cold zonality!)

I'm surprised at the wide variation in snow fortunes across the areas where that ppn has fallen

Well I have to concur with Darren. I'm glad for those on the high ground and the localised parts of the South  and South West but it's been as about a bad a winter's day here as you can get. Cold, max 3C, windy and basically wet with a mixture of rain and sleety snow. Did I mention dark? Not been good for Kent and East Anglia.

Still can't, complain because we usually get the best of it as we did with the beast last year.

Here's the picture that tells a thousand words about how utterly awful this abysmal winter has been:

That is what we have had all week here and today yet again it inexplicably remained dry all day long. When I think about how much snow we used to get even in the less snowy winters it makes me mad 

i guess the biggest moan has to be the continual tripe being published by the experts at the met office the LRF just be rebranded as having a LARF instead as the bitter or very cold kept getting pushed back, which as some would say is fine, but by then the media, who I guess look to them for advice, had stories all ove4 the front pages of the severe winter that was coming .....eventually! ...but it took them ages to amend that forecast despite amateurs on here seeing it days earlier! 

Most notable moan of all in this part of the world (Hampshire) was that thousands of people were sent home from work early on Thursday after the met office warning was sent to hundreds of organisations, millions of pounds of business were lost and in the end a little sleet and wet snow fell, the infrastructure remained unaffected, the next day everybody returns to work, the warnings  were lifted at 11am as the snow began to fall and the afternoon/evening turned into total chaos with our busiest motorways at a standstill and still no warnings for hours were issued. 

Anyway looking back on the winter that so far has delivered, one fall of snow that our met office did not predict, 3 frosts , I would say the wk term has failed , but not As badly as our met office....not our finest winter and not the finest hour of our met office. 

I’m really pleased some people have had snow but I’m soooo jealous!  We are still completely snowless here.  We’ve missed out yet again!  The most we’ve seen this winter is the odd flurry of dry snow yesterday. Not even enough to give us a dusting!  

Moan from me - the most tiresome thing this winter has been the obsession (actual obsession), with media long range forecasts, especially the MetO. Especially as we know full well how difficult/nigh-on possible it is to forecast the weather at such a range. Makes me wonder why they bother. 

These forecasts are only as good as the medium/long range models which are used to support them. If they’re wrong, so are the forecasts. 

He's probably too busy enjoying the snow rather than a chart from a model showing a potential scenario 10 days away.  Maybe 

Having said that though, it's not very often that Richard is actually happy with the weather in his area which means that it almost certainly won't be long before his next rant here.

indeed JB ..I think we agree on that, but I still cannot fathom how the experts from the met office, fail with the nowcasts too!...take yesterday ,...they lift the weather warnings (just as the snow begins to fall) and that even when are major motorways are at a standstill...sod all, yet the day before, as the factories,offices and schools all prepare for Armageddon....nothing! 

Is it over yet ?

A beautiful day today with unbroken sunshine and the first 'feel' like things are on the turn.

Its just a shame its only early February and we will no doubt have to endure another 4 to 6 weeks of something resembling endless autumn down here on the SE coast where it hasn't snowed more than 2cm in the last 6 years.

19th January was the day winter ended down here IMBY...the day all hopes of some tasty eastern delight was snatched away in favour of a cold NW'ly unsettled pattern.

A great couple of weeks for many and I'm pleased many got the snowfall they so crave. A zonal NW'ly flow here is cold miserable existence with rain and some transitory sleet / wet snow if you're very lucky...

Woeful, simply woeful.

Global warming has now made it very difficult to get snow laying at sea level. The snowline settles around 80 to 100 metres these days in marginal (normal) winter setups.  

30 years when things were a degree or so cooler there was no such marginality most of the time.

Hi Steve,

That’s a shocking lack of snow you’ve had there. Isn’t it more a case of severe bad luck? 

Genuine question - does climate change mean :

a) we aren’t getting as many cold synoptic setups as we used to? 

Or 

b) Synoptic patterns haven’t changed, but when we do get cold setups, they aren’t as cold as they used to be, giving a higher risk of sleet/rain in more marginal setups.

I’m hoping it’s a) , - this gives me hope we could enter a more favourable phase within our lifetimes. Of course many could argue we haven’t done badly since 2009 anyway - there have just been some very unlucky locations, including Folkestone and Aberdeen! 

There was a mini (3 day) eastern (then northeast) delight but I don't think it affected much more south then Lincolnshire.. 

Brought on by low pressure over northern France and southern England, high pressure towards scandi.

It did however bring frequent snow showers down the eastern seaboard and for some inland areas - 6 inches of the white stuff where I was.